Ellington

[BigRedRage]

I have no DVR and didnt watch the 4th Q (never do in preseason) but I keep hearing he played well. I just looked up his stat line - 2.4 YPC with third and 4th stringers. How did he look to the eyeball test? What did he do that excites people? Stat lines dont tell all but that stat line isnt very good.

I was hoping he would play some with the starters in his debut or at least with the second string but all I saw was A smith and more of taylor and A Smith makes me fall asleep. He is a fringe player and always has been and doesnt excite me in any way.

I am thinking at this point it goes mendenhall, taylor, smith, ellington but ellington was injured. I want to see him play a meaningful minute or two to see if he can surpass A smith and give us someone who can play.

Maybe saturday....

Anyway, please tell me what you saw in ellington against the cowboys. RB is a concern in my eyes and if ellington can play, i will be much less concerned. I have daydream nightmares of LSH and powell being our only 2 active RBs on gameday.

 

[BigRedRage]

lol - maybe this is part of it

In his NFL debut, Ellington rattled off a 24-yard run on his second carry of the game. Two plays later, having lined up on the outside at wide receiver, he caught a 12-yard pass from Ryan Lindley

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/car...-ellington-make-arizona-cardinals-roster.html

If he had 10 carrys for 24 yards and one carry was 24 yards, did he get 0 on the other 9 carries?

 

[Mulli]

I saw some speed and a rookie who didn't look completely overwhelmed with everything.

:championship:

 

[Duckjake]

Actually his stat line looked just like every other RB the last 3 years or maybe even longer. 1 run for 24 yards and then runs of -1,0,3,-2,1 etc.

 

[Mulli]

Actually his stat line looked just like every other RB the last 3 years or maybe even longer. 1 run for 24 yards and then runs of -1,0,3,-2,1 etc.

CBUS: take away the 24 yard run he is terrible.
Shane: why take it away?
Blah blah blah

 

[Duckjake]

CBUS: take away the 24 yard run he is terrible.
Shane: why take it away?
Blah blah blah

Hightower was the worst. He'd have one run for 70 yards and then 14 for a total of 12 yards.

 

[iRobot]

Ellington showed good burst and quickness in cuts. Unfortunately, the run blocking was lack luster and he didn't have much room to make anything other than a nice 24 yard run. Promising though..

 

[BigRedRage]

Ellington showed good burst and quickness in cuts. Unfortunately, the run blocking was lack luster and he didn't have much room to make anything other than a nice 24 yard run. Promising though..

sounds like he needs to play with the real OL so we can see what he can really do.

 

[Shane]

sounds like he needs to play with the real OL so we can see what he can really do.

It's all relative. It's not like he was playing against Dallas real defense.

 

[MrYeahBut]

sounds like he needs to play with the real OL so we can see what he can really do.

He'd have to play for someone other than the Cards to see what a real Oline can do....

 

[iRobot]

http://t.co/cmeQJjSa2g

If you followed FRG Scouting during the 2013 NFL Draft process, you know that Andre Ellington received the highest grade of all the draft-eligible running backs in the class. In fact, at the conclusion of our film study, Ellington was graded at an 8.1 (a low first-round grade).

Needless to say, it was shocking to see him slip all the way to the sixth round.

After suffering a concussion in training camp, Ellington was held out of the Cardinals first preseason game. He saw his first live NFL action on Saturday versus the Dallas Cowboys. His reps were limited to the fourth quarter, but I decided to take a look at each of his snaps and grade his performance.

The slides that follow will cover the following three things: 1) Running plays, 2) Pass protection/Receiving and 3) Overall grade.

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[BigRedRage]

blocked at work will check it out later

 

[EndZone]

He looked like crap outside of one play.

 

[iRobot]

Line looked like crap outside of one play.

Fixed it for ya!

 

[EndZone]

Playing against people who are going to be unemployed in a couple weeks. No vision...he looked like crap.

 

[BigRedRage]

so based on fandom he looked awesome, looked like crap, his line looked bad, he looked bad, he looked great and he sucks.

 

[JeffGollin]

so based on fandom he looked awesome, looked like crap, his line looked bad, he looked bad, he looked great and he sucks.

The state of a team and each player is more dynamic than static.

I liked what I saw from Ellington, but he's still got a lot to learn before being ready for prime time on a a full time basis.

Which is kind of the deal with some young players - with them, the snapshot of what you see today (especially the warts) isn't necessarily what you'll see 2, 6 or 16 games from now.

While it's a truism that coaches survive by living in the here & now and not overrelying too much on potential, there is a growth curve we can hope (& to a certain extent expect) a player like Ellington or Jefferson to advance along. Some guys will deliver on that potential, others will disappoint - that's football.

Which means that there will always be a group of players who suck one play and look great the next and, for that reason, draw mixed reviews from the peanut gallery.

 

[Duckjake]

Playing against people who are going to be unemployed in a couple weeks. No vision...he looked like crap.

What is Ellington supposed to do run over to the Dallas sideline and see if he can make Sean Lee miss him?

 

[b8rtm8nn]

What is Ellington supposed to do run over to the Dallas sideline and see if he can make Sean Lee miss him?

+1

 

[EndZone]

What is Ellington supposed to do run over to the Dallas sideline and see if he can make Sean Lee miss him?

Make the scrubs miss him. Which he didnt. Ellingtons play was like hypens last year...run to the line of scrimmage and fall down.

 

[Capt'nCard]

Hightower was the worst. He'd have one run for 70 yards and then 14 for a total of 12 yards.

lol, so that's 14 rushes for 82 yds. By my count that's 5.6 yds a carry and I'll take that all day. I know this isn't literal with Hightower but Adrian Peterson is a classic example of this stat. If you watch him, he'll get stuffed multiple times and then bust one for 50 to 60 yards. That's just how it works for some backs. Not every rush is ripping off 8-12 yds. It's a slow wear down and then an explosive play for big yards.

 

[cardpa]

I was satisfied by Ellington's performance Saturday. It was his first action and with the scrubs. Overall I see good potential and would really like to see him get some time with the first and second string line. We've seen enough of Smith and I hope Ellington gets the second chance at RB after Mendenhall is done for the night.

 

[Southpaw]

...but does Alfonso Smith make your toes tingle?

 

[GuernseyCard]

Well, I guess he's done, story written. Another wasted pick. Same ole Cards.

 

[Duckjake]

lol, so that's 14 rushes for 82 yds. By my count that's 5.6 yds a carry and I'll take that all day. I know this isn't literal with Hightower but Adrian Peterson is a classic example of this stat. If you watch him, he'll get stuffed multiple times and then bust one for 50 to 60 yards. That's just how it works for some backs. Not every rush is ripping off 8-12 yds. It's a slow wear down and then an explosive play for big yards.

That's exactly my point. It's why even yards per carry isn't a good indicator of your rushing offense. One success and 9 failures. 5.6 yards per carry looks good on paper but doesn't produce any points.

Just for fun some of Adrian Peterson's carries from game 1 last season:

4,9,-2,-1,8,2,4,2TD,5,1,1,3,(10,20,-4 overtime)

Here's the Cards rushes from our first game last season.

RW: 2,0Fumble,2,4,2,-1,1,3(holding penalty)
CW: 1,2,1,1,9,0,0
LSH: 1TD, 3

Awesome stuff.

Oh by the way it isn't a classic wear down when one of your first 2-3 carries is for 30 yards and your next 10 gain 10 which is what the Cards backs usually did. For example vs the Rams in game 1 2010 Hightower had runs of 19 and 20 yards back to back and a 1 yard TD run in the first half. Then in the second half had 1 carry for no gain and a second for 4 yards and fumbled. I don't think the Cards have ever worn anybody down running the football.