ESPN just announced Leinart probably will be cut

[Pariah]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/22356/podcast-ken-whisenhunt-on-matt-leinart

On possibly releasing Leinart: That’s not something we have discussed. I can tell you that. We are going to look at our quarterback position. We have two rookies that are fighting for a position on our football team as well [Max Hall and John Skelton]. We have put a lot of time and effort in with Matt in trying to help him improve as a quarterback and fit into what we do well. I would say that would be something that would take a lot of time and thought before we made any kind of decision like that.

 

[Spielman]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/22356/podcast-ken-whisenhunt-on-matt-leinart

Y'know how you can tell that anyone connected with personnel decisions on an NFL team is lying?

His lips are moving.

Of course they've discussed what do with with Leinart after they announce that Anderson is the starter. It would be ridiculous for them not to have done so. This is the usual dance of noncommittal platitudes to guard against a rash of injuries at the position.

 

[DoTheDew]

Y'know how you can tell that anyone connected with personnel decisions on an NFL team is lying?

His lips are moving.

Of course they've discussed what do with with Leinart after they announce that Anderson is the starter. It would be ridiculous for them not to have done so. This is the usual dance of noncommittal platitudes to guard against a rash of injuries at the position.

The quote didn't say they haven't discussed what to do it said they haven't discussed releasing him. If true, then that is good because it would be asinine to go into a season with two rookies for backups unless you are tanking.

 

[Rats]

Unless Leinart wins us a division this season he is done here. The reasons are multitude but mainly the Front office=$$$ and the Coaching philosophy doesn't suit his game.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Unless Leinart wins us a division this season he is done here. The reasons are multitude but mainly the Front office=$$$ and the Coaching philosophy doesn't suit his game.

And nobody takes him seriously of course.

 

[8ndkorner]

He's performed better than any NFL QB this preseason. Hell upgrade 20+ teams as a starter and all teams in depth and the future. If He goes to an NFCW team and Kicks our AZ for the next 10 years as I project I'll I'll

Oh the big stupids. want an unsportsman like thug in there I know it in my heart already! Cardinal Man of the year is too right to keep around, you know and start and everything.

Geeze! Sure performed better if all you have to rate him on are 10 to 20 yard dump offs. It's as if he is padding his stats. But we have great receivers and we need a QB that can stretch the field.

Wake up Smel. Anderson is not much better but at least he'll throw the ball downfield. Your manj ust doesn't get it or he's just trying hard not to fail. We need somebody who wants to use our receivers to kick az.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

If Leinart sucks so bad then why did we draft him in the first round?

If we suddenly discovered after year 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 that he sucked why didn't we cut him then.

This whole thing sucks more than anything that I've been involved with as a fan since 1958.

 

[Rivercard]

If Leinart sucks so bad then why did we draft him in the first round?

If we suddenly discovered after year 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 that he sucked why didn't we cut him then.

This whole thing sucks more than anything that I've been involved with as a fan since 1958.

No kidding. Starting Darek in week 1 is scary enough, but cutting Leinart now would be rediculous. For the love of god, we can't go to St Louis with just DA and two rookies!!

 

[Bruise Brother]

Baffled

Old time member... generally a lurker

And I'm amazed at the confusion and anger from some of you.

Don't get me wrong Matt has not statistically played bad at all this pre-season - but he does not carry the heart of the team....

Listen, I played ball for 9 years - I played for great quarterbacks and I've played for great team leaders... Of course in a perfect world you want both - but if I were to choose between the two - it would be a great leader (by far).

Matty is not a great leader.... and that's something you cannot be trained to become.

So he hasn't been given a fair chance.... chance to what? become a leader? earn the teams respect? BS... he has been given ample time for that.

If you disagree - that's your choice - but you are wrong.

Move forward...

That is all (I'll go back to lurking)

 

[82CardsGrad]

If Leinart sucks so bad then why did we draft him in the first round?

Because he was the most "NFL ready Qb to ever come out of college" silly...

'Course, given that, one has to wonder why he "fell" to #10 in the draft...

 

[PJ1]

Old time member... generally a lurker

And I'm amazed at the confusion and anger from some of you.

Don't get me wrong Matt has not statistically played bad at all this pre-season - but he does not carry the heart of the team....

Listen, I played ball for 9 years - I played for great quarterbacks and I've played for great team leaders... Of course in a perfect world you want both - but if I were to choose between the two - it would be a great leader (by far).

Matty is not a great leader.... and that's something you cannot be trained to become.

So he hasn't been given a fair chance.... chance to what? become a leader? earn the teams respect? BS... he has been given ample time for that.

If you disagree - that's your choice - but you are wrong.

Move forward...

That is all (I'll go back to lurking)

So Derek Anderson is a great leader?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Old time member... generally a lurker

And I'm amazed at the confusion and anger from some of you.

Don't get me wrong Matt has not statistically played bad at all this pre-season - but he does not carry the heart of the team....

Listen, I played ball for 9 years - I played for great quarterbacks and I've played for great team leaders... Of course in a perfect world you want both - but if I were to choose between the two - it would be a great leader (by far).

Matty is not a great leader.... and that's something you cannot be trained to become.

So he hasn't been given a fair chance.... chance to what? become a leader? earn the teams respect? BS... he has been given ample time for that.

If you disagree - that's your choice - but you are wrong.

Move forward...

That is all (I'll go back to lurking)

Helluva post for a dude who generally lurks! Don't lurk so much buddy!!

 

[Bruise Brother]

So Derek Anderson is a great leader?

Ask the team not me

 

[82CardsGrad]

So Derek Anderson is a great leader?

I don't believe anyone said that, did they? What's sad is in the eyes of Whiz, and seemingly a few players, he is a better leader than Matty... which in and of itself does not necessarily make him a great leader. Just a better leader and more respected leader than Matty...

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Old time member... generally a lurker

And I'm amazed at the confusion and anger from some of you.

Don't get me wrong Matt has not statistically played bad at all this pre-season - but he does not carry the heart of the team....

Listen, I played ball for 9 years - I played for great quarterbacks and I've played for great team leaders... Of course in a perfect world you want both - but if I were to choose between the two - it would be a great leader (by far).

Matty is not a great leader.... and that's something you cannot be trained to become.

So he hasn't been given a fair chance.... chance to what? become a leader? earn the teams respect? BS... he has been given ample time for that.

If you disagree - that's your choice - but you are wrong.

Move forward...

That is all (I'll go back to lurking)

What good is a leader if they lead you into the ground? Anderson cannot hit the broad side of a barn consistently, but at least he gets his teammates motivated?

No thanks... his schtick will wear off quickly (i'd say 3 to 4 games) and he will be known again as the aloof over-chucker he has always been.

 

[PJ1]

I don't believe anyone said that, did they? What's sad is in the eyes of Whiz, and seemingly a few players, he is a better leader than Matty... which in and of itself does not necessarily make him a great leader. Just a better leader and more respected leader than Matty...

We shall see. Banished from Cleveland so Holmgren saw none of this leadership people are speaking about. If not Matt ok with me but not Derek Anderson.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Because he was the most "NFL ready Qb to ever come out of college" silly...

'Course, given that, one has to wonder why he "fell" to #10 in the draft...

What is with the USC PR machine. ML was the "most NFL ready QB that year" Reggie Bush was supposed to change the way the game was played. Keith Rivers, Rey Mauluga were supposed to be the best LB's to come out in years and Taylor Mays was supposed to be the next Troy P. USC is to the NFL what Duke is to the NBA, a bunch of great college players that just can't live up to expectations in the pros. If anything has been learned from this it is to STAY FAR AWAY from USC Players when drafting.

 

[82CardsGrad]

What good is a leader if they lead you into the ground? Anderson cannot hit the broad side of a barn consistently, but at least he gets his teammates motivated?

No thanks... his schtick will wear off quickly (i'd say 3 to 4 games) and he will be known again as the aloof over-chucker he has always been.

We shall see. Banished from Cleveland so Holmgren saw none of this leadership people are speaking about. If not Matt ok with me but not Derek Anderson.

There are truly some incredibly CRAPTASTIC posts... Once again, you prefer to look at stats versus the immense, negative/adverse effects poor leadership brings.
DA is not Josh McCown. He has performed well at the NFL level in a cesspool of a franchise. We don't know how he will translate to a talented team like the Cards who also play in much friendlier confines. But most importantly, if Whiz and the players see Matty as a weak leader and therefore possess little respect for the guy, this is a no-brainer.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

There are truly some incredibly CRAPTASTIC posts...

I prefer CRAPULENCE...

 

[daves]

DA is not Josh McCown. He has performed well at the NFL level in a cesspool of a franchise.

In almost every way imaginable, DA IS Josh McCown. Each of them had one mediocre season within which they had 5 decent games, leading a crappy team to more wins than expected. Anderson's 2007 was marginally better than McCown's 2004, but overall, i don't see much difference.

Anderson
McCown

...dave

 

[carey]

If anything has been learned from this it is to STAY FAR AWAY from USC Players when drafting.

Sedrick Ellis says "hi" and so does Bush from last year's playoff game vs. the Cards.