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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ah, I read last night he couldn't do more damage.

Haven't seen any of the more recent stuff.

i think it was cowherd that quoted a doc this morning. may have been on dan patrick, i flip back and forth on the way into work.

 

[abomb]

I'm not from Phoenix.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Really? You laugh at Ouchie and Cheese and all the other millions of suns fans not in AZ? REALLY?

I'll tell you what, I love and respect all our fellow Cards fans in other cities...represent!! Cbus Cardsfan. PA and his son in MD. Dude, you REALLY want to stick by that statement?

Those fans have different attachments and a very different story than abomb. They didn't climb aboard a Cardinals bandwagon as a kid, so yes, I will stick by that statement.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Switching teams is 1,000,000 worse than rooting for your non-local team.

i know. cheese and i have tried to convince ourselves to become chargers fans. if the cards don't make the playoffs this year we're literally buying chargers jerseys and seasons tickets in the hopes that shock therapy will lead us to the cure.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Ah, whatevs. So who is going Wednesday? I will be there.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I was born in Nebraska, lived there for six and a half years. My dad's family from LA loved their Lakers, and they had recently even won the title behind West and Chamberlain. I was a Laker fan from the crib. Moving to Arizona happened in 1980, but as a little kid I was already a Lakers fan due to my parents giving me the juice. There was a team in Arizona (I lived in southern AZ, not Phoenix) but I already had a team and they just got Magic. I then got taken on a most amazing ride through my formative years.

To be honest, I didn't even know who the Suns were until I was a bit older.

i give you special dispensation. your story is appealing. you have my blessing. now may your lakers burn in eternal hades.

 

[abomb]

Ah, whatevs. So who is going Wednesday? I will be there.

Got an extra ticket?

 

[D-Dogg]

i give you special dispensation. your story is appealing. you have my blessing. now may your lakers burn in eternal hades.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Got an extra ticket?

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[D-Dogg]

Those fans have different attachments and a very different story than abomb. They didn't climb aboard a Cardinals bandwagon as a kid, so yes, I will stick by that statement.

Huh? Many of them damn sure did...from the days in St Louis and even Chicago. Why, I bet there are fans out there that were around for the title year for the Cardinals. Damn frontrunners.

It's just silly. Let people enjoy the teams they enjoy, for the reasons they enjoy them.

 

[azsouthendzone]

I am using someone's extra ticket!

 

[azsouthendzone]

It's just silly. Let people enjoy the teams they enjoy, for the reasons they enjoy them.

No. I cannot do that. I feel it is a mission from God to show you the way. I had a vision from Charles Bidwill and Cotton Fitzsimmons telling me so. They told me to go hike Camelback Mountain in search of some copper plates but i haven't gotten around to that as of yet.

 

[D-Dogg]

No. I cannot do that. I feel it is a mission from God to show you the way. I had a vision from Charles Bidwill and Cotton Fitzsimmons telling me so. They told me to go hike Camelback Mountain in search of some copper plates but i haven't gotten around to that as of yet.

lol

 

[abomb]

Holy crap that is funny.

 

[azsouthendzone]

I'll let you know what the plates say once I dig them up.

 

[BeeBeard]

Nah, just once I put my heart behind a team, I stuck with it. Not saying it's right!

I think you Lakers fans have had the luxury of having good ownership and management, as well as a team that thrives in the largest basketball market in the country. Perhaps that has given you blinders:

Assume, if you will, that we live in an alternate universe and that you are originally from the Houston area, where you were a Rockets fan, circa the 1980's all the way through the Dream era. Then you moved away but still had a little place in your heart for the team. But then, oh then, changes were made. Drastic ones.

Rudy T (a far better coach of the Rockets than of the Lakers, I might add) retires from coaching altogether, and is succeeded by a glorified defensive coach (the dubious but likable Jeff Van Gundy) followed by another coach who is terrible across the board (Adelman). The basketball becomes unwatchable.

Oh, but it gets so much worse. Now also assume that instead of a team loaded with consummate professionals like Hakeem, or scrappy, dedicated role players like Scotty Brooks or Matt Bullard, your team starts to trade for selfish, stat-padding players like Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady. Suppose as well that instead of having Otis Thorpe or Charles Barkley at the 4, your starting power forward becomes Chuck mother effing Hayes. For years. For people unfamiliar with Chuck, I submit both his stats and Exhibits A and B. Suppose as well that Rockets management surrounds an unlikable, monstrous Chinese man with a gaggle of undersized, selfish mercenaries in the backcourt. And that that's an apt description of the team for years as well.

And finally, remember once again that you no longer live in your hometown of Houston anyway, and long since moved on to other places and other things years ago.

It's just a little strange, Lakers fans, to try to indict people who move away from their hometown and then develop a liking for other basketball teams in the process, especially teams that are more geographically close to them than their old team and a hell of a lot more fun to watch. Are there rules to this? Is there some paperwork we were supposed to file? Maybe Shaq knows? (He could tell us we're in violation of regulation 227-B, section 2.)




P.S. - I still follow the Rockets in terms of standings and personnel moves, but I don't watch their games. It breaks my heart to do so.

 

[D-Dogg]

I'll let you know what the plates say once I dig them up.

I heard they say "Go Lakers."

 

[Renz]

we know a lot of these lakers fans from the cards board, so we're more inclined to tolerate them. i, for one, think it's just piss poor if you're a phoenix resident and not from LA to root for the lakers over the suns. especially if you're a cards fan. that's just frontrunning imo (see renz for reference).

Did my name come up as a frontrunner or as a Laker fan who grew up in So Cal?

 

[Chaplin]

Go LA Galaxy!

 

[D-Dogg]

It's just a little strange, Lakers fans, to try to indict people who move away from their hometown and then develop a liking for other basketball teams in the process, especially teams that are more geographically close to them than their old team and a hell of a lot more fun to watch. Are there rules to this? Is there some paperwork we were supposed to file? Maybe Shaq knows? (He could tell us we're in violation of regulation 227-B, section 2.)

I don't think the Laker fans are the ones with the problem. I don't care if you like the Suns or the Rockets. That's YOUR team, not mine. Maybe it jives with my libertarian/conservative viewpoints in general. Do what makes you happy, and I'll do what makes me happy and let's be civil to each other.

It's the people who say "you must assimilate or you are scum" that I don't really enjoy. And this attitude was prevelant in my schools in AZ...and part of the reason why I never will cheer for the suns. Their fans left a bad, bad taste.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I heard they say "Go Lakers."

they do! they were authored by satan. remember, it was a bidwill in the vision. the cotton thing must have been a "misrememberance."

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Did my name come up as a frontrunner or as a Laker fan who grew up in So Cal?

i thought you were a suns fan that got recruited to the lakers by abomb and donald . . . no? was it someone else i'm not remembering?

 

[azsouthendzone]

Go LA Galaxy!

I like them. I'll admit that my first live MLS soccer game was a Galaxy game where Ruiz tossed in 2 goals. I've been to several games since and I have the MLS package on Directv. Its all I got. But I'll also be the first to admit that I'm not on the same level as the L.A. Riot squad. If PHX got a team I would dump the gals.

 

[LakeShowMan]

I think you Lakers fans have had the luxury of having good ownership and management, as well as a team that thrives in the largest basketball market in the country. Perhaps that has given you blinders:

Assume, if you will, that we live in an alternate universe and that you are originally from the Houston area, where you were a Rockets fan, circa the 1980's all the way through the Dream era. Then you moved away but still had a little place in your heart for the team. But then, oh then, changes were made. Drastic ones.

Rudy T (a far better coach of the Rockets than of the Lakers, I might add) retires from coaching altogether, and is succeeded by a glorified defensive coach (the dubious but likable Jeff Van Gundy) followed by another coach who is terrible across the board (Adelman). The basketball becomes unwatchable.

Oh, but it gets so much worse. Now also assume that instead of a team loaded with consummate professionals like Hakeem, or scrappy, dedicated role players like Scotty Brooks or Matt Bullard, your team starts to trade for selfish, stat-padding players like Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady. Suppose as well that instead of having Otis Thorpe or Charles Barkley at the 4, your starting power forward becomes Chuck mother effing Hayes. For years. For people unfamiliar with Chuck, I submit both his stats and Exhibits A and B. Suppose as well that Rockets management surrounds an unlikable, monstrous Chinese man with a gaggle of undersized, selfish mercenaries in the backcourt. And that that's an apt description of the team for years as well.

And finally, remember once again that you no longer live in your hometown of Houston anyway, and long since moved on to other places and other things years ago.

It's just a little strange, Lakers fans, to try to indict people who move away from their hometown and then develop a liking for other basketball teams in the process, especially teams that are more geographically close to them than their old team and a hell of a lot more fun to watch. Are there rules to this? Is there some paperwork we were supposed to file? Maybe Shaq knows? (He could tell us we're in violation of regulation 227-B, section 2.)




P.S. - I still follow the Rockets in terms of standings and personnel moves, but I don't watch their games. It breaks my heart to do so.

I see your point that it is easy to be a Laker fan in some respects. However, please explain why I am still a Cleveland Browns fan? I have lost my team for 3 years. Sat through horrible team after horrible team since they have been back (until this year, thank god). Thanks to Directv, and the Sunday Ticket, I have watched every single game they have played since 1999. Just like I have watched every single Laker game on NBA League Pass.

It is easy to say that Laker fans are all bandwagoners because their team has always been good. However, that is not exactly the truth. Some people attach themselves to teams as a young person, and stick with them no matter where they move or what happens with the team.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I see your point that it is easy to be a Laker fan in some respects. However, please explain why I am still a Cleveland Browns fan? I have lost my team for 3 years. Sat through horrible team after horrible team since they have been back (until this year, thank god). Thanks to Directv, and the Sunday Ticket, I have watched every single game they have played since 1999. Just like I have watched every single Laker game on NBA League Pass.

It is easy to say that Laker fans are all bandwagoners because their team has always been good. However, that is not exactly the truth. Some people attach themselves to teams as a young person, and stick with them no matter where they move or what happens with the team.

were you from cleveland? if so, it makes sense.

also, if you're born and raised in vegas you had NO team from which to choose, and in all likelihood your childhood was during good days for the browns, so yeah, your initial fandom was based on frontrunning just like your laker fandom was. just b/c a team got bad later doesn't mean your initial selection wasn't based on bandwagoning. just callin' 'em like i see 'em.