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[azsouthendzone]

Again, recent transplants and people who are AZ natives are entirely different.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So why aren't Raiders fans treated the same as Lakers fans on here? I just want to know what goes through the mindset of being die hard about the Arizona Cardinals but not the Suns. It baffles me. No different from Dallas Cowboys fans, but accepted for some reason.

we know a lot of these lakers fans from the cards board, so we're more inclined to tolerate them. i, for one, think it's just piss poor if you're a phoenix resident and not from LA to root for the lakers over the suns. especially if you're a cards fan. that's just frontrunning imo (see renz for reference).

 

[abomb]

So why are you a Lakers fan if AZ is your home state?

It doesnt really matter, but the same reasons why most normal people are fans of the teams they are. My family didnt watch sports (sans the Super Bowl), so I relied on friends and their families to talk about and follow sports. Some close friends taught me about the Lakers and basketball in general and I was hooked. Most kids in my school were Suns fans, but it just didnt make sensefor me to root for them. The community was very Mormon they couldnt get enough of Chambers and Ainge. I guess I liked being different.

Call it bandwagon, call it whatever, but after all these years, I still bleed P&G. Being a fan isnt about where you were born or where you lived, but the time and energy you've spent rooting for them. Living and dying by your team. I could never, ever, ever root for another team than the Lakers.

 

[azsouthendzone]

we know a lot of these lakers fans from the cards board, so we're more inclined to tolerate them. i, for one, think it's just piss poor if you're a phoenix resident and not from LA to root for the lakers over the suns. especially if you're a cards fan. that's just frontrunning imo (see renz for reference).

You are correct sir!

 

[D-Dogg]

actually, that's NOT what the doctors said, they said it could worsen if it gets repeated stress and that it could even sever. the conventional thinking lately is that he'll try to play with it, it'll really impact his game eventually, and that he'll shut it down.

Ah, I read last night he couldn't do more damage.

Haven't seen any of the more recent stuff.

 

[D-Dogg]

There is no law, but it does seperate fans who were born into it from people like you who jumped on the bandwagon.

Nebraska didn't have a basketball team. I was a fan of the Lakers from the crib.

Does that give me tax-exempt status?

 

[hafey]

I don't really understand the problem here. These laker fans are not trolling, and in fact they bring generally well thought out posts as well as a different perspective. That seems, to me, to be the point of a message board.

If it really bothers someone that much, you don't have to read their posts/threads.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Call it bandwagon, call it whatever, but after all these years, I still bleed P&G. Being a fan isnt about where you were born or where you lived, but the time and energy you've spent rooting for them. Living and dying by your team. I could never, ever, ever root for another team than the Lakers.

That is bandwagon to the core. No different than Phoenix Bulls fans or Cowboys fans. At least you admit it. If you really cared about "being different" you would have been a Clippers fan, but they weren't winning multiple rings so that would have sucked. That is all I asked for when asking the question.

 

[abomb]

How is it different from the Cowboys fans here in PHX, and don't tell me you have never been annoyed by the Phoenix Cowboys fans.

Depends on the fan. There wasnt football in Arizona before 1988, but there was football. My brother's in laws are die-hard Cowboys. My brother, not much interest in football, is a Cowboys fan and they raise their kids as Cowboys fans. I surely give them a lot of crap for it, but they stick with their teams and the time invested in them. I'd have less respect for them if they abandoned their history.

You should really like LeBron James. He is a native Ohioan, but roots for the Cowboys and the Yankees!

 

[azsouthendzone]

Nebraska didn't have a basketball team. I was a fan of the Lakers from the crib.

Does that give me tax-exempt status?

I guess it does! Really the only thing that bothers me, like really bothers me, is the natives.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Lakers thread is in the Smack Shack. Laker fans don't start threads in here...but since the Suns fans like to start threads about the Lakers, we'll chip in.

I think it's great that you have a Cowboys thread on there. And the Patriots thread is also pretty cool. I happily bash the pats in that thread. Create all the threads you want..if there is interest, people will post. If there isn't, the thread will die. There is a TON of interest in the Lakers on this board, as evidenced by the threads.

This forum is a community of people who share SOME interests. Go look at the P&R section and see that that doesn't mean we share ALL interests.

And I'm a fan of the Lakers because my dad was a Californian who grew up in Long Beach and I still have a ton of family in Anaheim. I used to talk to my great-uncle all the time as a kid about the Lakers and the Angels. I grew up loving Showtime, and have never left the team because of how much it meant to me growing up. I don't really care all that much about baseball, but I do like the Angels still just based on my great-uncle's long suffering fandom of them. I like the dbacks because they were new here and I had no real affinity for another team. I became a hardcore cards fan working the training camps for them in 95-98 in college, and knowing the players.

I don't care for the Suns because a) Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge and b) their fans were aholes where I grew up and soured me on the team. Plus, again...the lakers are part of my childhood. I can measure moments in my childhood by the team...where I was when Magic hit the hook vs. Boston. Drafting James Worthy. Magic's announcement. Just like I'm sure you can do with the Suns.

If you move to Detroit, will you become a Pistons fan? Check that. If you move to San Antonio, will you become a Spurs fan? Why or why not?

but if i understand correctly, you didn't move here from LA, you were raised here where a team already existed, the suns. so now i understand your frontrunner tendency is just a long-standing frontrunner tendency, stemming from the the magic era of being frontrunners. see, i enjoyed the lakers back then too as byron scott was my favorite player, but that didn't make them my favorite team. i just enjoyed watching them and stayed true to my home team.

again, i have no problem with you guys posting here, but let's call a spade a spade - you became a fan of the lakers 'cuz they were winning championships and that makes you a frontrunner.

 

[abomb]

That is bandwagon to the core. No different than Phoenix Bulls fans or Cowboys fans. At least you admit it. If you really cared about "being different" you would have been a Clippers fan, but they weren't winning multiple rings so that would have sucked. That is all I asked for when asking the question.

Doc Brown, 20 years ago, there wasnt much NBA on TV. Maybe if the Clippers had been on, I would have embraced their deep, rich and storied history!

 

[abomb]

I guess it does! Really the only thing that bothers me, like really bothers me, is the natives.

You do realize there was no Arizona pro-baseball prior to 1998, no Arizona pro-football prior to 1988 and no Arizona pro-basketball prior to 1969, yet people lived here right?

 

[jbeecham]

 

[SunsFanVegas]

I guess if only being allowed to be a fan of the team that is associated with the town you live in...I'm screwed, since I live in Las Vegas and we DON'T have a team... This argument is pretty ridiculous anyway. I am a SUNS fan and I don't care where I live or move to. If I moved to Alaska, I would still be a Suns fan.

To each his own and as long as you don't come here to this board and tread all over our team and fans....there is no harm in others coming here and posting. I happen to enjoy some of the posts...intelligent people who know basketball and can convey their opinions without trash talking.

I know I'm relatively new here and don't post all that much...but sometimes some of these posts just make my head spin.

 

[abomb]

SunsFansVegas,

Since you live in Vegas, please cease and desist rooting for the Suns. When you get your own team, you may root for the NBA.

Yours,
azsouthendzone

 

[abomb]

Switching teams is 1,000,000 worse than rooting for your non-local team.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If you leave Phoenix, do you instantly become a fan of the new city's team a la Gee?

so abomb, did you move to phx from LA? is that your point? just keeping it real.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Again, recent transplants and people who are AZ natives are entirely different.

Wait wait wait - I hope that comment isn't in reference to me.

I am Arizona's Finest after all. When people ask me where i'm from even though its pretty even time wise (LA till 11, PHX Metro till 24) I always say Phoenix. COnsidering all my important moments in life (driving, first drink, other firsts) all took place in PHX, I consider that where I grew up. And trust me - no one has as much pride about the state as I do. I sound like a travel agent half the time.

I love my Suns, DBacks, and especially my god forsaken Cardinals. Hell I love the Rattlers, Yotes, and Sting too. Christ I remember reading articles during last years Mercury run from here in SFLA.

So again - I hope that doesn't make me any less of a fan because i was born in the 213. Quite the contrary in fact. I had the choice and I went purple and orange.

 

[D-Dogg]

but if i understand correctly, you didn't move here from LA, you were raised here where a team already existed, the suns. so now i understand your frontrunner tendency is just a long-standing frontrunner tendency, stemming from the the magic era of being frontrunners. see, i enjoyed the lakers back then too as byron scott was my favorite player, but that didn't make them my favorite team. i just enjoyed watching them and stayed true to my home team.

I was born in Nebraska, lived there for six and a half years. My dad's family from LA loved their Lakers, and they had recently even won the title behind West and Chamberlain. I was a Laker fan from the crib. Moving to Arizona happened in 1980, but as a little kid I was already a Lakers fan due to my parents giving me the juice. There was a team in Arizona (I lived in southern AZ, not Phoenix) but I already had a team and they just got Magic. I then got taken on a most amazing ride through my formative years.

To be honest, I didn't even know who the Suns were until I was a bit older.

 

[abomb]

so abomb, did you move to phx from LA? is that your point? just keeping it real.

Nah, just once I put my heart behind a team, I stuck with it. Not saying it's right!

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I guess if only being allowed to be a fan of the team that is associated with the town you live in...I'm screwed, since I live in Las Vegas and we DON'T have a team... This argument is pretty ridiculous anyway. I am a SUNS fan and I don't care where I live or move to. If I moved to Alaska, I would still be a Suns fan.

To each his own and as long as you don't come here to this board and tread all over our team and fans....there is no harm in others coming here and posting. I happen to enjoy some of the posts...intelligent people who know basketball and can convey their opinions without trash talking.

I know I'm relatively new here and don't post all that much...but sometimes some of these posts just make my head spin.

Your a cutie

Keep posting level headed logical Suns posts and you'll be just fine. I for one am amazed at the difference in view points and opinions out there but to each his own.

There are SOME sensible people who post within this form. There just only here for an hour or so between 2-3AM on the tuesday nights.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Arizona is my homestate and best believe if/when I move to San Diego or Denver someday, I wont be rocking Chargers or (shudder) Broncos gear.

I dont get your hang up on "local coverage". This isnt 1950. I get radio recaps from the Lakers board, which are usually nothing anyway. I go to at least a Lakers game roughly every season and usually go to at least one of the Lakers games here in PHX.

hmm, okay, again i'm not really mad at you guys, just trying to understand.

so let me get this straight . . .

you are from phx and grew up here.

the suns have been here likely all of (or mostly) your entire life.

you chose to be a fan of the lakers years ago, prior to the communications explosion, so you couldn't have been surrounded by lakers stuff as much as suns stuff in your formative years. so why did you choose them? because they were winning championships?

there was no nfl team during most of your formative years, but you immediately adopted, or at least have adopted, the cardinals as your favorite team. the only reason that can exist is that they are the "home team" for their play has never been inspiring, exciting to watch, or winning.

so why did you adopt the lakers over the suns, but not some other team over the cards? i see frontrunning/bandwagon lakers fan, even if it is an aged frontrunning excuse.

tell me where i'm wrong.

and btw, my parents are from chicago, but curiously i'm not a bulls fan. never was. go figure.

 

[azsouthendzone]

SunsFansVegas is in a different boat than you abomb. He has nothing up there except fond memories of the XFL and the CFL. You can try to compare yourself but it doesn't work. Now if you want to give him pointers on which bandwagon to jump on it would go something like this.....

SunsFansVegas,

Please bookmark the following and climb aboard. We are always looking for new extremely dedicated and loyal fans!

NewYorkYankees.com
LosAngelesLakers.com
DallasCowboys.com

Sincerely,
abomb

Fans who follow out of town teams are not on the same level as those that do, and that is a fact. You can try to spin that arguement but you know its true. The first thing someone in LA would ask you abomb is why you support THEIR team and not the Suns. Then they would turn around and laugh amongst themselves.

 

[D-Dogg]

The first thing someone in LA would ask you abomb is why you support THEIR team and not the Suns. Then they would turn around and laugh amongst themselves.

Really? You laugh at Ouchie and Cheese and all the other millions of suns fans not in AZ? REALLY?

I'll tell you what, I love and respect all our fellow Cards fans in other cities...represent!! Cbus Cardsfan. PA and his son in MD. Dude, you REALLY want to stick by that statement?