Fitz are you paying attention???
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Unlike Fitz Brady knows the Pats aren't cutting him so the situations are completely different.
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Did you read the restructure though in reference to the bonus?? He forfeited 24 million that he ONLY gets if he gets injured..He threw away cash... Also left himself open to being cut with ZERO penalty on the cap…
Not your typical "Restructure " at all
FYI anytime a deal is redone its a "restructure"
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No its not Fitz needs to not be selfish and give the team reasons contractually to keep him.
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Half of what he's scheduled to make.. 12 mill cap hit would be fair for both sides IMO...
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The reality is that 12 million dollars is STILL ridiculous for Fitz at this point. We're talking about a WR who hasn't had 1000 yards for three straight seasons. You don't move forward by paying guys for what they did in the past.
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You are probably right
82CardsGrad
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Fitz also brings other value than just catches... He draws coverage and attention away from others. I also have no doubt that had Palmer remained healthy, Fitz would've reached 90 catches and 1,000 yards and would not have gotten hurt...
That said, I also think 12 million is too high... I think the number shouldn't be any higher than 10 million...
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Yes he can take a pay cut to help the team but it has nothing with the New England situation. Other than a fluke injury happening Brady is getting that bread.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with this. Just because Fitz didn't get 1000 yards the last three years, that doesn't mean he CAN'T. Everyone knows we had terrible QB play the last three years (Even this one) and we got a coach who fundamentally changed his role in the offense.
I'm sure Fitz knows he has to come down on his salary. (Although, WTH was Keim doing saying they have Fitz' cap numbers "baked in" for next year? A bizarre statement if you want the guy to take a cut in salary.) Will he? I think he hasn't made up his mind yet. Just guessing of course.
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Ummm There is no excuse for him not reaching 1000 last year even with the "new system" he had Carson Palmer for 16 games and had one of his highest yardage seasons ever with the likes of Josh McCown and not the Josh we see playing today either.
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Ummmm Thats the only way he sees that $$ is if he gets a fluke injury?? He only gets that 24 million now if he has some major fluke injury… Thats called the epitome of unselfish and giving up a lot of dough.
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Doesn't matter skill set and getting open are the same regardless of system.
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Maybe. I don't know the numbers, bu I feel pretty confident his targets went down some the last two years. If not, then yeah, the change in offense meant less than the change in personnel. See, if Palmer threw at him nearly as much as McCown, Blake, Anderson, etc then his production should not have fallen off as it did.
I mean Fitz specifically said earlier this year that the change in how he's used is not more important than winning. Let's see if he puts his money where his mouth is.
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Dude, he wasn't the main focus once BA and Palmer came to town. Bottom line is that this offense and his changed role are not set up for him to be a 100 catch, 1,000 yard receiver....BA wants the ball downfield to Floyd and Smokey...
Yet, the 2-3 games just prior to Palmer going down, he and Fitz were finally clicking in a very productive way...
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No, but where the ball is dictated to go based on reads does. Arians doesn't want throws to the WR who has a safety over the top. When there is one or two safeties deep, they still are on Fitz quite a bit.
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Last I looked Fitz isn't banging a supermodel who out earns him either. 
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Brady "forfeited" nothing and "threw away" no cash. The restructure does not even change the Patriot's salary cap situation. It simply allows the organization to not be forced setting aside $24 mil in cash to an NFL version of an escrow account for Brady. In fact, Mr. Bundchen gets a $1 mil per year raise. Theoretically the restructure does open the door much wider for the Pats to cut him, but then they would lose the face of their franchise to another team that would gladly pay him the same/more. This was two sides working together toward a mutually beneficial financial outcome for both parties.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4775277/explaining-the-significance-of-tom-bradys-contract-restructure?ex_cid=espnapi_publi
NFL contracts are a little different than submitting a time card to Payroll and getting a check sent direct deposit to your bank. "Restructure" can be a euphemism for loop hole in getting around NFL regulations and/or the Salary Cap. Just like a very good tax attorney, agents and FO personnel (IF they are willing to work toward the same goal) can bend the rules into a pretzel without breaking them. When Keim says Fitz's numbers are "baked in", I think "Extra salt and mustard, please" and Larry retiring a Cardinal.
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It was a cash flow gimmick, nothing more. No saved cap space and Brady will still get his 24 million(otherwise they will be ostracized by free agents for a long time and will not be able to use the very common "injury guarantee" used in 99% of all contracts to help finagle the cap to the teams needs, which would put them in cap hell, a first for a team in a long time). It does nothing but put 24 million back into the pocket of the owner for the time being.
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Thx for sharing that article! You're correct, Brady coughed up nothing... But, what does stand out to me is his comparatively low annual salaries for the next three seasons.... Says a lot about Brady that he is willing to be paid below market. I truly believe Fitz will do the same in an effort to remain a Cardinal.
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Didn't seem to hurt Reggie Wayne when the same thing happened and he was playing with a rookie QB.
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Yes, Luck and Wayne had one magical year in 2012... However, since 2011, that is the only season Wayne has surpassed 1,000 yards or 100 catches.
Don't know all of the specifics about that 2012 season that contributes to his numbers, but he hasn't been remotely close since...
