For Those Who Still Want A WR

[Garthshort]

I know many on this Board went into the Draft wanting a WR, and we didn't get one. This draft was considered a VG one for WR's and it seemed to me that many were picked in the first three rounds, thus almost locks to make their teams. And the business of the NFL means that teams are always looking to replace the more expensive, more experienced players with rookies, assuming that the new player can replace the old. That is why I can see a number of vet WR's being cut after teams are comfortable with their rookies. So, in the case of last year's rookies, Isabella, Butler or Johnson not stepping up this year, I feel that we'll have a lot of WW options. JMO.

 

[Syracusecards]

I know many on this Board went into the Draft wanting a WR, and we didn't get one. This draft was considered a VG one for WR's and it seemed to me that many were picked in the first three rounds, thus almost locks to make their teams. And the business of the NFL means that teams are always looking to replace the more expensive, more experienced players with rookies, assuming that the new player can replace the old. That is why I can see a number of vet WR's being cut after teams are comfortable with their rookies. So, in the case of last year's rookies, Isabella, Butler or Johnson not stepping up this year, I feel that we'll have a lot of WW options. JMO.

That’s a really great point. I think you’re right and we might see some surprise quality vets released.

 

[Lagerfilled]

I still say we ought to trade Reddick for Curtis Samuel. Now that the draft is over, maybe we kick in a late round pick next year. Or we pay some of the salary to make it work. Either way, Haason has a history with Rhule at Temple and in need of a fresh start. While Samuel could be a nice, inexpensive WR and returner with speed & experience.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I know many on this Board went into the Draft wanting a WR, and we didn't get one. This draft was considered a VG one for WR's and it seemed to me that many were picked in the first three rounds, thus almost locks to make their teams. And the business of the NFL means that teams are always looking to replace the more expensive, more experienced players with rookies, assuming that the new player can replace the old. That is why I can see a number of vet WR's being cut after teams are comfortable with their rookies. So, in the case of last year's rookies, Isabella, Butler or Johnson not stepping up this year, I feel that we'll have a lot of WW options. JMO.

Jamar Chase was the best WR in college football last year. He should be WR #1, and looks like a true top ten pick. He's alot better than Jeudy and Lamb.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-wide-receiver-class/

In retrospect, it made sense to skip on a wide receiver since the Cardinals used three picks last year. Figure out what they have first.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I still say we ought to trade Reddick for Curtis Samuel. Now that the draft is over, maybe we kick in a late round pick next year. Or we pay some of the salary to make it work. Either way, Haason has a history with Rhule at Temple and in need of a fresh start. While Samuel could be a nice, inexpensive WR with speed & experience.

Carolina ain't making that trade. Samuels has value.

 

[BritCard]

I still say we ought to trade Reddick for Curtis Samuel. Now that the draft is over, maybe we kick in a late round pick next year. Or we pay some of the salary to make it work. Either way, Haason has a history with Rhule at Temple and in need of a fresh start. While Samuel could be a nice, inexpensive WR and returner with speed & experience.

Samuel is a decent WR. Reddick is a bust. How's that a fair trade?

Also why? Samuel has been one of two decent wide receivers Cam has had and hasn't come close to Kirks numbers.

 

[Lagerfilled]

Carolina ain't making that trade. Samuels has value.

Are you sure???

Haason’s Market Value
4 yrs, $44,818,224
Avg. Salary: $11,204,556
NFL Rank: 119
OLB Rank: 10
Current Contract
Free Agent: 2022
Avg. Salary: $3,369,492
NFL Rank: 416
OLB Rank: 0

Samuel’s Market Value
3 yrs, $19,631,067
Avg. Salary: $6,543,689
NFL Rank: 285
WR Rank: 39
Current Contract
Free Agent: 2021
Avg. Salary: $1,613,421
NFL Rank: 772
WR Rank: 81

Although I don’t agree with Spotrac, I’d gladly pay Samuel $4-5mm/yr for his services instead of Reddick. Now if Haason comes in ready to backup Kennard at SOLB and has a solid year with 5+ sacks and consistent pressure on 3rd down, he could restore some of the lost value. There’s just no way the Cards pickup Haason’s 5th year option at $9mm no matter how he plays.

 

[Lagerfilled]

Samuel is a decent WR. Reddick is a bust. How's that a fair trade?

Also why? Samuel has been one of two decent wide receivers Cam has had and hasn't come close to Kirks numbers.

Thus the late round pick and bonus kicker, or does nobody read around here?

Samuel is an outside receiver who doesn’t lack for speed or the ability to get open. He’s also the 3rd or 4th option much like Damiere Byrd was for us last year. We’ll see how Curtis performs under Rhule assuming they don’t trade him, but I’m willing to bet he’ll have a better year.

 

[SoonerLou]

That’s a really great point. I think you’re right and we might see some surprise quality vets released.

Yea OP made a great point. Just hope if we do add a vet its someone ready to play not the Crabtree types.

 

[DVontel]

Jamar Chase was the best WR in college football last year. He should be WR #1, and looks like a true top ten pick. He's alot better than Jeudy and Lamb.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-wide-receiver-class/

In retrospect, it made sense to skip on a wide receiver since the Cardinals used three picks last year. Figure out what they have first.

I don’t know about “a lot better”.

Just like Jeudy, he’s going to get nitpicked to death during & after the season. Jeudy was also the consensus WR1 for both the 2019 & 2020 WR class, but then you seen what happened.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Hopkins, Fitz, Kirk. That is a decent three. Then we have the second-year players trying to crack that bunch--Johnson, Isabella, and Butler. Hopkins makes everyone better because they all move down the depth chart. Instead of being a #1 receiver, Kirk becomes a #2 or 3. Larry becomes a #3. The 2019 class are not vying for an open #3 spot.

Yes. Picking up a vet is fine, as long as the vet we pick up is better than the player we release.

 

[THESMEL]

Yes we have so-t invested in lb now, I’m hoping Simmons can compliment reddick , improve his game

 

[Cardiac]

During an interview with VJ about the Cards Defensive players drafted VJ specifically named Reddick as one of our talented LBer's.

I believe the Cards still have some expectations for Reddick to contribute.

 

[oaken1]

Hopkins, Fitz, Kirk. That is a decent three. Then we have the second-year players trying to crack that bunch--Johnson, Isabella, and Butler. Hopkins makes everyone better because they all move down the depth chart. Instead of being a #1 receiver, Kirk becomes a #2 or 3. Larry becomes a #3. The 2019 class are not vying for an open #3 spot.

Yes. Picking up a vet is fine, as long as the vet we pick up is better than the player we release.

We churned the top of the roster
It’s the best way to get better fast but also usually the most expensive

I almost feel like we did the same thing in picking Simmons

 

[AZCrazy]

We went into the offseason needing a #1 wide receiver and hit a perfect bullseye. All is well.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

If one of the 3 WR's from 2019 step up their play in 2020 & Sherfield can step up & make some plays, we may not need any more? Barring no injuries. We had 7 on the roster in 2019 & 1 on ST. We have 7 now counting Sherfield. I know he's more for ST but he can fill in at WR. The Cardinals FO must feel like they can get something out of the 3 or they would've drafted one in this draft imo. Then there's always roster cuts/late additions if things aren't going as expected? We should be fine.

 

[BritCard]

I can't think of a bigger waste of cap space than signing someone's cast off WR. Our WR room is the best on the team.

 

[Stout]

I can't think of a bigger waste of cap space than signing someone's cast off WR. Our WR room is the best on the team.

That's wildly optimistic. Even after adding Hopkins, I think we have a severe lack of depth, although I'm good with our starters now. I don't have a ton of optimism that the players we drafter are going to come through. Still, you can't be perfect everywhere, and the team needs to see if any of them can develop. I'm good with the draft not including a WR, and ready to see who, if anyone, steps up. I usually hate it when people say this, but there's always next year's draft if no one does.

 

[kerouac9]

During an interview with VJ about the Cards Defensive players drafted VJ specifically named Reddick as one of our talented LBer's.

I believe the Cards still have some expectations for Reddick to contribute.

This has been the story every offseason every year of Reddick’s career. If you’re still believing it, you’re the sucker.

 

[AZman5103]

If there is a supplemental draft, and some of these WR's enter it....IMO it would be worth going after one. We would get the #8 pick again, even though we are all hoping our pick in the real draft will be in the 20s.

 

[Shane]

If there is a supplemental draft, and some of these WR's enter it....IMO it would be worth going after one. We would get the #8 pick again, even though we are all hoping our pick in the real draft will be in the 20s.

no we don’t. We’re all hoping for the 32nd pick..

 

[Garthshort]

My only concern about our WR's is that our top three all seem to play on the inside, at slot receiver. Or, at least that seems to be their best position.

 

[Cardiac]

This has been the story every offseason every year of Reddick’s career. If you’re still believing it, you’re the sucker.

I admit he is no Jim Dray but I think he still has a shot.

 

[JeffGollin]

We went into the offseason needing a #1 wide receiver and hit a perfect bullseye. All is well.

I think they may employ Benjamin as a 4th receiver - In addition to RB, I'm picturing His role as similar to Isabella's: finding open areas of territory and turning short receptions into home runs.

One's a WR/the other's a RB; but they'd have similar roles.

 

[TaylorSwift]

It would be nice if Isabella turned out to be serviceable at least. The speed is needed.