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Ouchie-Z-Clown

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Legit playoff teams don't usually go undefeated on the road.

8 out of 10 went to the Super Bowl.

Add Kansas City to this list from last year as well - went to SB

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Look at the losses those teams had overall. Are we finishing with one or two losses? Only one of those teams had 3+ losses. You sure picked a weird hill for your last battle.
 

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Look at the losses those teams had overall. Are we finishing with one or two losses? Only one of those teams had 3+ losses. You sure picked a weird hill for your last battle.

True but its extremely rare that teams go undefeated on the road. That is the point of that graphic.

Last battle? I have picked so many weird hills...I will just have to add this one to the list and keep going. :)
 

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True but its extremely rare that teams go undefeated on the road. That is the point of that graphic.

Last battle? I have picked so many weird hills...I will just have to add this one to the list and keep going. :)
Lol. The point of the graphic doesn’t negate the glaring obvious other overwhelming data - all of them but one lost 2 or fewer games overall for the season. When you have that few losses of course there’s a good chance you went undefeated on the road. There’s a good chance you went undefeated at home too. I mean, you lost 0, 1, or 2 games all season.
 

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Lol. The point of the graphic doesn’t negate the glaring obvious other overwhelming data - all of them but one lost 2 or fewer games overall for the season. When you have that few losses of course there’s a good chance you went undefeated on the road. There’s a good chance you went undefeated at home too. I mean, you lost 0, 1, or 2 games all season.

Which is harder? Going undefeated at home or on the road? Where are most postseason games (including the Super Bowl)...on the road? Interesting...that's all.
 

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Which is harder? Going undefeated at home or on the road? Where are most postseason games (including the Super Bowl)...on the road? Interesting...that's all.
I think you’re completely missing the point. The reality is those teams didn’t make the super bowl because they went undefeated on the road, they made it because they were completely dominant teams losing 2 or less games overall.
 
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I think you’re completely missing the point. The reality is those teams didn’t make the super bowl because they went undefeated on the road, they made it because they were completely dominant teams losing 2 or less games overall.
So one less game than we have?
 

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I think you’re completely missing the point. The reality is those teams didn’t make the super bowl because they went undefeated on the road, they made it because they were completely dominant teams losing 2 or less games overall.

Actually I am not...I get your point. I think there is another point in there that you don't want to acknowledge. That's ok...we can agree to disagree.
 

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Yes. In a world where the things you describe happened. We would not be frauds. But we live in a world where Kyler melted down when the pressure was on (again) and we lost at home.

Legit playoff contenders don’t play .500 ball in their own house.
No but they beat every team on the road by 10+ points and don’t lose. Since that part has only happened once in last 37 years. 1984 San Fran and we know how good they were
 

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that Niners team was really one of the best of all time and they really don't get much mention as such... which is why bringing them up in reference to this Cardinals team is pretty out there despite the 10 point road victory thing.

They went 15-1, won by an average margin of 29-14 and won in the playoffs 21-10, 23-0 and 38-16 in the Super Bowl.

that said, they were a much more dominant road team than at home.

Their margin of victories on the road were by 3, 12, 21, 13, 33, 34, 32 and 18 points.

Their margin of v's at home were by 6, 10, 9, (lost by 3), 6, 7, 3 and one huge outlier at 43. But still 7-1, compared to our really average 3-3 with two left to go.
 

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that Niners team was really one of the best of all time and they really don't get much mention as such... which is why bringing them up in reference to this Cardinals team is pretty out there despite the 10 point road victory thing.

They went 15-1, won by an average margin of 29-14 and won in the playoffs 21-10, 23-0 and 38-16 in the Super Bowl.

that said, they were a much more dominant road team than at home.

Their margin of victories on the road were by 3, 12, 21, 13, 33, 34, 32 and 18 points.

Their margin of v's at home were by 6, 10, 9, (lost by 3), 6, 7, 3 and one huge outlier at 43. But still 7-1, compared to our really average 3-3 with two left to go.
Right, so that comparison, right now, doesn’t really hold water. If we win out I could see it, bet even then we’d have lost 2 more games than they did.
 

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I'm not going to go as far as to say it's "coincidence" that our home record and road record are so weirdly different, but neither do I think that we "play better on the road because there's less pressure to play well in front of the home fans", or anything else that tries to tie this phenomena specifically to playing in SFS vs. an enemy stadium.

I'm sure the answer has to do with the teams that we've played at home, including player personnel available to both teams for those games, and also to the fact that perhaps we've had a little extra turnover luck on the road. That's it. No big conspiracy or anything.

Based on this, we absolutely want home field advantage for the playoffs. 1000% yes we do.
 
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Usually you can leave a take out for 10 days before they spoil. I guess it’s our unnaturally warm weather that caused a lot of takes about the Cards not being fraudulent to go bad early.
 

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