Free Agency 2018

[AzStevenCal]

Either one. It artificially deflated the contracts of actual superstars and allows pseudo stars to get wildly overpaid.

No max contracts and guys like LeBron and Durant would be on 7-8 year deals for nearly 40 mil per year, contracts so big and far reaching, teams could only carry one. And guys like Derozan, Beal and... yeah, Booker, would be on 3-4 year 15 mil deals.

Yeah, I could see that working but it's not all that different from what we saw a few decades ago. They scaled back the number of contract years because those high salaries became problematic when stars started getting injured or just declining earlier than anticipated. They'd have to improve how they handle that problem not to mention how to prevent teams from intentionally paying players beyond their effectiveness.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah, I could see that working but it's not all that different from what we saw a few decades ago. They scaled back the number of contract years because those high salaries became problematic when stars started getting injured or just declining earlier than anticipated. They'd have to improve how they handle that problem not to mention how to prevent teams from intentionally paying players beyond their effectiveness.

That's on the owners. Like I said, max deals are only there to save them from their own idiocy.

 

[Mainstreet]

Not until the money dries up. If their TV partners encourage something drastic like this, I could see it happening. But I can't see ESPN or TNT supporting the idea.

I'm sure you are right. Money rules. However, as a fan, I may soon have to look at the game differently.

If I lived near Prescott, Arizona, I might look to the NAZ Suns as my basketball world.

I didn't fall in love with basketball because of the stars. What attracted me is watching the players compete and develop their game in training camps and summer league. I also enjoyed high school and college basketball. Perhaps I need to look towards my roots.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Just get rid of max salaries...

The franchise tag, like the reserve clause was in baseball... very unAmerican.

It’s bargained for. Nothing unamerican about that.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That's on the owners. Like I said, max deals are only there to save them from their own idiocy.

The problem is that there are two competing issues. The desire to compete and win and the desire to make money. Those two things work against each other as Jerry Colangelo so deftly showed us with the Diamondbacks Championship. Eliminating the max contract will only succeed in giving the advantage to big market teams and will shut the doors on small markets. Teams will fail and eventually the league will diminish.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

The problem is that there are two competing issues. The desire to compete and win and the desire to make money. Those two things work against each other as Jerry Colangelo so deftly showed us with the Diamondbacks Championship. Eliminating the max contract will only succeed in giving the advantage to big market teams and will shut the doors on small markets. Teams will fail and eventually the league will diminish.

Not if there is still a salary cap though. The reason it works so well for baseball teams like the Yankees is because there is no cap. If there was a cap then the Yankees wouldn't be able to outbid everyone for every top free agent.

 

[Ronin]

Sources: Jeff Green agrees to 1-year, $2.5M deal with Wizards
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-jeff-green-agrees-1-year-2-5m-deal-wizards-192606464.html

 

[Ronin]

Report: Michael Carter-Williams, Rockets Agree to 1-Year Minimum Contract
https://sports.yahoo.com/m/4f527b3e-2a0b-3264-9c08-a5bdc418265e/report:-michael.html

 

[edupunk]

I don't get this thinking at all. They are simply doing their job very well and taking advantage of the current rules and cap situation. It would be unfair to their shareholders, their players and their fans to not do whatever they can legally do to stock their roster.

the excuse that they are just taking advantage of the rules is a joke. There are plenty of rules I can take advantage of, and be ok, doesn't make it ethical. And they're not doing their job well, Jerry west already did most of their job for them. Whatever west didn't do the warriors core players are doing themselves. Let's be honest.

It's cool if you see nothing wrong with the status quo, or even just the mere optics of seeing boogie sign with the warriors, we all have opinions, so I'll agree to just disagree because I see this as horrible for the sport.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

the excuse that they are just taking advantage of the rules is a joke. There are plenty of rules I can take advantage of, and be ok, doesn't make it ethical. And they're not doing their job well, Jerry west already did most of their job for them. Whatever west didn't do the warriors core players are doing themselves. Let's be honest.

It's cool if you see nothing wrong with the status quo, or even just the mere optics of seeing boogie sign with the warriors, we all have opinions, so I'll agree to just disagree because I see this as horrible for the sport.

What is unethical about the Warrior's moves?

 

[Ronin]

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Sources: Tyreke Evans, Pacers finalizing a one-year, $12M deal.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

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Maybe they view him as a point guard and would be willing to trade Collison? He would be perfect as a transition guy who maintains cap flexibility for next offseason.

 

[AzStevenCal]

the excuse that they are just taking advantage of the rules is a joke. There are plenty of rules I can take advantage of, and be ok, doesn't make it ethical. And they're not doing their job well, Jerry west already did most of their job for them. Whatever west didn't do the warriors core players are doing themselves. Let's be honest.

It's cool if you see nothing wrong with the status quo, or even just the mere optics of seeing boogie sign with the warriors, we all have opinions, so I'll agree to just disagree because I see this as horrible for the sport.

How is that being honest. West helped them but it's revisionist history to say it's all on him and the player/recruiters. And what is unethical about this signing? They didn't take advantage of a secret loophole. They did the same thing other teams have done in the past and they did it well.

As for "horrible for the sport", how do you measure that? Right now the league is enjoying unprecedented revenues. If it's truly horrible for the sport, revenues will eventually take a hit and the league will rush to make changes. I'd like to see them be proactive and make a few changes now to keep something like this happening but I don't think it's as dire as some apparently do. And I don't fault GS at all.

 

[Chaplin]

Less competition and parity = revenue is a dangerous road to go down.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yes, holding employees in one place on perpetual one year contracts. It's garbage.

Just... get... rid... of... max... salaries. It's only there to save owners from their own stupidity.

You must not understand what collectively bargained means, or why it exists.

 

[Chaplin]

I wonder what the current salary cap numbers are today, what with all the signings. There are still a few interesting players still available.

IT just followed the Suns today on Twitter and I believe he followed the Magic yesterday. LOL

 

[Mainstreet]

Jazz extend Exum and Neto.

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[GatorAZ]

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[JCSunsfan]

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That is an interesting turn. Kyrie wants to move on. Kahwi is less interested in the Lakers now that LeBron is there. I guess there ARE things more important than winning to some players.

Philly or Boston is what makes sense for Kahwi.

 

[GatorAZ]

Kawhi wants to be close to San Diego. I know another place that’s close if he hits FA.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm wondering if Patrick Beverley is available. The Clippers had a team option.

On a one year deal he might be worth considering.

 

[Finito]

Very very interesting Kawhi has no interest in running with Lebron he just wants to be in so cal.

 

[Krangodnzr]

That is an interesting turn. Kyrie wants to move on. Kahwi is less interested in the Lakers now that LeBron is there. I guess there ARE things more important than winning to some players.

Philly or Boston is what makes sense for Kahwi.

Does Kyrie want to move on?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Very very interesting Kawhi has no interest in running with Lebron he just wants to be in so cal.

That's really no surprise. He's an odd duck (for a star) and LA without Lebron would be hard enough for him to handle. With Lebron, it will be paparazzi hell and he wants no part of that limelight.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's really no surprise. He's an odd duck (for a star) and LA without Lebron would be hard enough for him to handle. With Lebron, it will be paparazzi hell and he wants no part of that limelight.

LA and no paparazzi makes no sense.