Free Agency 2020

[1Sun]

Maybe. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I just didn't know about it other than the occasional rumor.

I do know about it. I have my sources...

 

[AzStevenCal]

I do know about it. I have my sources...

Like I said, I have no inside knowledge, but if that's the case, it's just one more reason to pass on him.

 

[Mainstreet]

@AzStevenCal

I hope you and your wife are doing well.

It's going to get crazy soon heading into the draft, trades and free agency. The action should be almost non-stop. And then the season likely starts around December 22nd. It should be fun.

I wish the Suns had more money to take on contracts and pick up assets in return. Teams with money like the Pistons are likely to do something like that.

In free agency I could be happy keeping most of the current team, adding a third point guard, another shooter and some more athletic depth at the 4/5.

It would be nice to come out of the draft with a point guard and a 4/5 candidate. I wouldn't mind Zeke in a trade down.

 

[AzStevenCal]

@AzStevenCal

I hope you and your wife are doing well.

It's going to get crazy soon heading into the draft, trades and free agency. The action should be almost non-stop. And then the season likely starts around December 22nd. It should be fun.

I wish the Suns had more money to take on contracts and pick up assets in return. Teams with money like the Pistons are likely to do something like that.

In free agency I could be happy keeping most of the current team, adding a third point guard, another shooter and some more athletic depth at the 4/5.

It would be nice to come out of the draft with a point guard and a 4/5 candidate. I wouldn't mind Zeke in a trade down.

Thanks for the well-wishes, we're surviving 2020 which is all we could ask for. Hope the same is true for you and everyone else on this forum.

With the election out of the way, there's always the hope that more attention will be paid by the current administration which might strengthen our national response to the pandemic. If we can get it somewhat under control in the next few months, perhaps the anticipated stringent cost-cutting moves by the majority of the NBA teams will be less pronounced. And that might allow us to hang on to what we have, maybe even including Saric, while adding a decent player in the draft.

As for Nnaji, I like him but I worry that, like Ayton, he doesn't always play with the intensity and focus you'd want. Despite his meager 3 point showing in college, I see no reason that he won't become a solid threat out there which at least makes him a viable candidate for the four spot. He can give you a few minutes at the five, depending on the matchup, but I wouldn't want him as our primary backup at center. If things click though he could be a steal late in the first round.

 

[Mainstreet]

Thanks for the well-wishes, we're surviving 2020 which is all we could ask for. Hope the same is true for you and everyone else on this forum.

With the election out of the way, there's always the hope that more attention will be paid by the current administration which might strengthen our national response to the pandemic. If we can get it somewhat under control in the next few months, perhaps the anticipated stringent cost-cutting moves by the majority of the NBA teams will be less pronounced. And that might allow us to hang on to what we have, maybe even including Saric, while adding a decent player in the draft.

As for Nnaji, I like him but I worry that, like Ayton, he doesn't always play with the intensity and focus you'd want. Despite his meager 3 point showing in college, I see no reason that he won't become a solid threat out there which at least makes him a viable candidate for the four spot. He can give you a few minutes at the five, depending on the matchup, but I wouldn't want him as our primary backup at center. If things click though he could be a steal late in the first round.

I'm glad all is well.

I was seeing Zeke as a second piece in a trade down. The first piece being the most important. It's hard to know who will be there at #10 but I wouldn't be opposed to a trade down with Boston for a couple of their first round picks. Kira Lewis and Zeke wouldn't be a bad draft.

At the moment I'm having trouble getting overly excited about free agency unless the Suns are going to spend some money. The arena and training facility aren't even done yet not to mention the Suns sold their G-League team.

If the Suns could keep Saric for less money than his cap hold that would help.

 

[1Sun]

Thanks for the well-wishes, we're surviving 2020 which is all we could ask for. Hope the same is true for you and everyone else on this forum.

With the election out of the way, there's always the hope that more attention will be paid by the current administration which might strengthen our national response to the pandemic. If we can get it somewhat under control in the next few months, perhaps the anticipated stringent cost-cutting moves by the majority of the NBA teams will be less pronounced. And that might allow us to hang on to what we have, maybe even including Saric, while adding a decent player in the draft.

As for Nnaji, I like him but I worry that, like Ayton, he doesn't always play with the intensity and focus you'd want. Despite his meager 3 point showing in college, I see no reason that he won't become a solid threat out there which at least makes him a viable candidate for the four spot. He can give you a few minutes at the five, depending on the matchup, but I wouldn't want him as our primary backup at center. If things click though he could be a steal late in the first round.

Intensity is not a problem with Nnaji. Strength is the issue. He has a hard time with big, strong opponents. He always gives it his all, and he is very coachable. Not much of a ceiling. He will never be a star, or even an All-Star. But potentially a very good complimentary piece, if he can develop NBA strength. Classic end of the first round prospect.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Intensity is not a problem with Nnaji. Strength is the issue. He has a hard time with big, strong opponents. He always gives it his all, and he is very coachable. Not much of a ceiling. He will never be a star, or even an All-Star. But potentially a very good complimentary piece, if he can develop NBA strength. Classic end of the first round prospect.

I would say you're wrong on the intensity, right on the strength, right on the difficulty with power post players, wrong on the always giving his all, right on being coachable, wrong on his ceiling, possibly wrong on his all star potential, right-ish on being a very good complimentary piece, and wrong on it hinging on gaining NBA strength simply because his best NBA future is as a stretch 4 and his quickness will matter more than filling out for post play will.

I'm not saying he's lazy, just that at times he'd fall asleep down low especially if the offense ignored him for a few plays in a row. I don't think with his frame he will ever be a real threat as a post up player. He has good speed and quickness on the perimeter and his form and free throw shooting suggests he can develop nicely from distance. If he can't earn his spot as a stretch 4, his NBA future is likely end of the bench. JMO.

 

[Mainstreet]

Zeke is a freshman who is mobile and athletic. I don't think we should over think it for a later first round pick.

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[JerkFace]

Duplicate post

 

[JerkFace]

Geez... triplicate post.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kellan Olson of Arizona Sports does a nice article on Jerami Grant.

See excerpt below:


As you can see by the foot speed, he can guard 1-4 with ease. There are less than two dozen NBA players who can do an effective enough job defending up and down the depth chart: from James Harden to Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic to Damian Lillard and so on. He is one of them, and so is Bridges.


Therein lies the appeal of the Suns going after Grant in free agency. They’d have two All-Defense caliber pieces on the wing, and a duo that has the quickness and length to limit guards as well. If Deandre Ayton’s improvement trajectory since being drafted continues on the defensive end, that’s enough of a foundation for a future premier defense.


https://arizonasports.com/story/244...-question-of-what-versatility-the-suns-value/

 

[1Sun]

Kellan Olson of Arizona Sports does a nice article on Jerami Grant.

See excerpt below:


As you can see by the foot speed, he can guard 1-4 with ease. There are less than two dozen NBA players who can do an effective enough job defending up and down the depth chart: from James Harden to Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic to Damian Lillard and so on. He is one of them, and so is Bridges.


Therein lies the appeal of the Suns going after Grant in free agency. They’d have two All-Defense caliber pieces on the wing, and a duo that has the quickness and length to limit guards as well. If Deandre Ayton’s improvement trajectory since being drafted continues on the defensive end, that’s enough of a foundation for a future premier defense.


https://arizonasports.com/story/244...-question-of-what-versatility-the-suns-value/

We could certainly do worse, but we would then still need to add some size and strength on the bunch to avoid getting bullied.

 

[Mainstreet]

We could certainly do worse, but we would then still need to add some size and strength on the bunch to avoid getting bullied.

That could also be supplemented by the backup center position or players that can play the 4/5.

 

[1Sun]

That could also be supplemented by the backup center position or players that can play the 4/5.

Agreed.

 

[95pro]

Kellan Olson of Arizona Sports does a nice article on Jerami Grant.

See excerpt below:


As you can see by the foot speed, he can guard 1-4 with ease. There are less than two dozen NBA players who can do an effective enough job defending up and down the depth chart: from James Harden to Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic to Damian Lillard and so on. He is one of them, and so is Bridges.


Therein lies the appeal of the Suns going after Grant in free agency. They’d have two All-Defense caliber pieces on the wing, and a duo that has the quickness and length to limit guards as well. If Deandre Ayton’s improvement trajectory since being drafted continues on the defensive end, that’s enough of a foundation for a future premier defense.


https://arizonasports.com/story/244...-question-of-what-versatility-the-suns-value/

Grant would be a great addition! I'm ok with moving on from Oubre if we need to. Similar stats dont mean they're the same player as some keep saying. I can't see Oubre playing defense on Davis and James like he did, in fact iirc Oubre picked up a lot of early fouls when tasked with guarding bigger players. Hard to remember since he was also injured. Another reason to move on from Oubre while we can.

 

[Mainstreet]

Grant would be a great addition! I'm ok with moving on from Oubre if we need to. Similar stats dont mean they're the same player as some keep saying. I can't see Oubre playing defense on Davis and James like he did, in fact iirc Oubre picked up a lot of early fouls when tasked with guarding bigger players. Hard to remember since he was also injured. Another reason to move on from Oubre while we can.

I've always been a fan of Jerami Grant fan but also a huge fan of Kelly Oubre.

I'm torn.

This starting five looks so good.

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[1Sun]

I've always been a fan of Jerami Grant fan but also a huge fan of Kelly Oubre.

I'm torn.

This starting five looks so good.

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Too skinny and weak.

 

[GatorAZ]

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[overseascardfan]

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Wow, less than 2 weeks for FA's to make a decision and report to potential new teams for training camp. There will be no wooing process or pitch meetings unlike years past for the big name guys.

I personally like it. You either **** or get off the pot, no taking months dragging out the process waiting for better offers.

 

[Proximo]

Wow, less than 2 weeks for FA's to make a decision and report to potential new teams for training camp. There will be no wooing process or pitch meetings unlike years past for the big name guys.

I personally like it. You either **** or get off the pot, no taking months dragging out the process waiting for better offers.

You can bet the wooing process has already started.

 

[Proximo]

I want to keep Oubre, but he just doesn't work as a PF against most teams.

He also doesn't really work as a 6th man, and I don't think he would be happy there either.

Unfortunately, I feel like it comes down to who would you rather keep, Mikal or Oubre. If that is the choice it has to be Mikal.

I am terrified that James Jones is going to give Oubre away for penny's on the dollar however.

 

[Mainstreet]

Wow, less than 2 weeks for FA's to make a decision and report to potential new teams for training camp. There will be no wooing process or pitch meetings unlike years past for the big name guys.

I personally like it. You either **** or get off the pot, no taking months dragging out the process waiting for better offers.

There is reportedly a lot of talk already in regards to free agency and trades. And there is the draft on November 18th.

I doubt if the NBA is overly concerned with tampering rules with such little time for teams to make moves.

If the December 22nd start date holds up, we should be in for a fun ride.

 

[Mainstreet]

It may be a repeat from somewhere else, but the NBA salary cap will be $109.140 million for 2020-2021.

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[overseascardfan]

You can bet the wooing process has already started.

There is reportedly a lot of talk already in regards to free agency and trades. And there is the draft on November 18th.

I doubt if the NBA is overly concerned with tampering rules with such little time for teams to make moves.

If the December 22nd start date holds up, we should be in for a fun ride.

Aside from the scuttlebutt on this board, I haven't seen any news of FA movement. I've seen articles on possible destinations for guys but that's not any different that me throwing out my opinion on where guys fit.

Maybe it picks up on or after draft night next week.