Free Agency 2020

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I think if we play like the bubble, with the addition of Paul, we should be able to get to the playoffs for sure. Getting past loaded teams like the Lakers is another prospect. We kept needing that consistent 3rd player last year. Oubre and Bridges would have some hot games, but we needed that consistent third guy night in and night out. I think that's going to be the big difference.

There was likely no move possible this year that would get us past the Lakers and that really shouldn't have been the expectation either.

With the salary situation on this team we needed to focus on netting some solid rotational guys in free agency to try and push for somewhere in the 4-6 range of the playoffs.

 

[Folster]

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Didn’t see this one coming. Boston could of had Myles Turner in a sign and trade but got greedy and wanted Warren as well.

Wow! This is going to shake things up

 

[Cheesebeef]

So... we’re going to do nothing here, huh?

if that’s the case, the CP3 trade was literally just to make sure we ended up the 7 seed, sadly in a season where we could have made a real leap forward to dark horse contender with the right moves in FA.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I don't, I think much of our core is still a few years away from being at their peak when a move like this could well vault us into the championship discussion. Now, IMO, the motivation for this move was likely to be a little bit about keeping Booker content but mainly an effort to speed up the development and maturity of Ayton, Bridges, Johnson, our draft pick and even Devin. Or maybe I have those two reasons switched but the point's the same.

I never expected a bottom of the financial barrel owner to bring in any high priced free agents (or even medium priced) in a season destined to be historically loss heavy. I'm all for hoping but I'm not sure why anyone would expect otherwise. And can someone give me the list of great FA's that flocked to a team primarily because Paul was there? I'm sure there's some but I've never heard of him having this kind of drawing power.

We couldn't afford top priced free agents or medium priced free agents. We can only afford essentially 3rd tier free agents that will take the MLE and like 4th tier or so that would take the BAE.

 

[JerkFace]

So... we’re going to do nothing here, huh?

if that’s the case, the CP3 trade was literally just to make sure we ended up the 7 seed, sadly in a season where we could have made a real leap forward to dark horse contender with the right moves in FA.

What has been done that we should of done?

 

[Mainstreet]

When it's time, the CBA should be shredded.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Milwaukee signs Portis and Augustin? How? They didn't have more than the MLE.

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Both signed for deals that we could’ve beat.

 

[Folster]

So... we’re going to do nothing here, huh?

if that’s the case, the CP3 trade was literally just to make sure we ended up the 7 seed, sadly in a season where we could have made a real leap forward to dark horse contender with the right moves in FA.

In the back of my mind I thought we might be the team being suckered into holding the Chris Paul bag. Why take on $85 million over the next two years and not make a better effort? Losing that 2022 pick is going to look silly.

Maybe we can trade Paul next off-season for John Wall.

 

[Mainstreet]

There goes Avery Bradley.

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[Cheesebeef]

What has been done that we should of done?

portis or Augustine would have been pretty easy/relatively cost effective fits.

 

[Cheesebeef]

In the back of my mind I thought we might be the team being suckered into holding the Chris Paul bag. Why take on $85 million over the next two years and not make a better effort? Losing that 2022 pick is going to look silly.

Maybe we can trade Paul next off-season for John Wall.

exactly. If you make that move, go all in. Otherwise it’s likely the move is primarily window dressing.

 

[Folster]

There goes Avery Bradley.

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Yet another guard gone on a cap friendly deal.

 

[1Sun]

lmao at a two year deal that will likely be moveable next season sets us back 5-10 years

You're missing the point. If the team continues to flounder, which it certainly will with its present roster, then in two years' time, Paul leaves, Booker asks out, Ayton leaves, and we're stuck with another 5-10 rebuild with our reputation around the league being worse than ever.

 

[JerkFace]

In the back of my mind I thought we might be the team being suckered into holding the Chris Paul bag. Why take on $85 million over the next two years and not make a better effort? Losing that 2022 pick is going to look silly.

Once again, what effort were you looking for? The only signings that have happened so far that would of been good for the Suns and the Suns could of matched involved players going to a top 4 team in the league in pursuit of a ring. I have yet to see a single signing that made me think that the Suns could of and should of matched, and that the player would of most likely chosen us over the team they picked.

 

[Cheesebeef]

When it's time, the CBA should be shredded.

why? There’s nothing holding us back from competing at a higher level than our Owner choosing not to do so.

 

[AzStevenCal]

In the back of my mind I thought we might be the team being suckered into holding the Chris Paul bag. Why take on $85 million over the next two years and not make a better effort? Losing that 2022 pick is going to look silly.

It could. I was against this deal before the pick when it was just Oubre, Rubio and Jerome and the pick just adds to the risk. But it's a minimal risk compared to the risk of adding Paul in the first place. And the reward for adding Paul is still potentially far greater than anything we've given up in this deal. I didn't (and don't) like if from a not-so-informed risk management perspective but I think the up-side of the deal is still roughly the same even with the loss of that pick.

 

[Mainstreet]

What has been done that we should of done?

If the Suns were intent on moving Oubre they could have traded him for a first round pick, cleared salary, signed a power forward and kept Rubio.

 

[JerkFace]

portis or Augustine would have been pretty easy/relatively cost effective fits.

And why would the choose us over a top 4 team in the Bucks?

 

[Folster]

It could. I was against this deal before the pick when it was just Oubre, Rubio and Jerome and the pick just adds to the risk. But it's a minimal risk compared to the risk of adding Paul in the first place. And the reward for adding Paul is still potentially far greater than anything we've given up in this deal. I didn't like if from a not-so-informed risk management perspective but I think the up-side of the deal is still roughly the same even with the loss of that pick.

There couldn't have been any other serious interest in Paul. OKC did not want the contract. Jones should've held firm.

 

[Cheesebeef]

And why would the choose us over a top 4 team in the Bucks?

money? Portis got bubkis. Augustin could have gotten more money as well. Players DO care about money.

 

[Cheesebeef]

There couldn't have been any other serious interest in Paul. OKC did not want the contract. Jones should've held firm.

I think and heard the Bucks were involved in those CP3 talks as well.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

portis or Augustine would have been pretty easy/relatively cost effective fits.

Augustine yes, but Portis seems like the type of guy they might want to avoid. They won't bring in players that they believe won't fit in well from a chemistry standpoint.

 

[JerkFace]

If the Suns were intent on moving Oubre they could have traded him for a first round pick, cleared salary, signed a power forward and kept Rubio.

Well that is a whole different conversation. My point is, now that we have made the trade for Paul, what moves have been made around the league that we should be criticized for not making (and the player would of chosen us over the team they chose).

 

[Mainstreet]

why? There’s nothing holding us back from competing at a higher level than our Owner choosing not to do so.

All NBA markets are not created the same such as the Lakers, Nets and Warriors.

 

[1Sun]

So... we’re going to do nothing here, huh?

if that’s the case, the CP3 trade was literally just to make sure we ended up the 7 seed, sadly in a season where we could have made a real leap forward to dark horse contender with the right moves in FA.

Right now, we're looking at 10th or 11th, not 7th.