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Browns sure know how to choke a game away. Punter mishandling the snap as well.Wow at chiefs and lol at mayfield pick should stop doin so many commercials lol
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Browns sure know how to choke a game away. Punter mishandling the snap as well.Wow at chiefs and lol at mayfield pick should stop doin so many commercials lol
I’d like to give a sneaky small game ball to chase Edmonds
avergaed over 5.4 ypc and over 10 yards per catch at RB. He was solid.
He is lightning fast. You can see it the moment he touches the ball.
I put those forced timeouts on Murray. The man has to watch the snap clock. And he still hasnt learned.
Chase played about as good as Chase normally does when he gets touches. I've never understood the Chase doubt other than his durability.For me, I'm giving game balls to some guys I doubted who had good games today:
Kirk
Murphy
Chase (not because he was stellar, but he was better today than I thought he would be)
Alford (for simply being healthy and not getting beaten like a rented mule
lol @Krangthebrain trolling his "class"
I feel like this is misconstrued. The criticism has been that the need at RT was greater and there were very good players available. The other criticism was that they took a ILB at 8 and then didn't play him. None of those are critical of Simmons as a player. I don't feel like I have ever read a post questioning Simmons as a player on this board.Game balls offense:
Murray. Probably his best game yet. The Cardinals rarely win when Murray doesn't put up big rushing numbers, but he rarely ran yesterday. He also completed a few throws while scrambling which he has struggled to do in the past.
Hopkins. DHop is the rock in which this offense is built on. Did anyone notice that he ran routes from different positions? Looks like Kingsbury did a proper post mortem last season. Hopkins will have another monster year.
Kirk. I said it all offseason, Kirk was going to be much better in the slot and it proved true.
Honorable mentions: Rondale and Chase. Both made plays. Chase had over 100 yards total offense. He will easily go over 1000 yards this year. Rondale makes a good offense even better. He was the missing piece to run WR screens, though Kirk can be good running screens too so it shouldn't be too predictable.
Jones. I think most of us were sleeping on Jones. He looks better than ever and he beat up a damn good LT.
Simmons. He has gotten a lot of negativity from fans on this board, but he is a great player when he is able to have simple keys to read. Simmons should post a lot of splash plays this year.
Murphy. It was always fake news that Murphy was a bad player. His statistics showed he was an average corner last year. Its not crazy to expect a 2nd year corner to improve going into year three, which is when alot of NFL players really take off. Murphy made a few big PBUs and it didn't look like he will struggle as the #1 guy.
Honorable mentions: Watt, Wilson/Alford, and Hicks. Watt was sucking up blockers and make nice trench plays. He will make the rest of the DL better. Wilson and Alford quietly played well. Hicks will play a lot of snaps this year against run heavy teams and he will be a steady player.
Shout out to Kingsbury. He calls a much better game than fans give him credit. His game management undermines him at times, but he calls as good and offensive game as any Cardinals playcaller has.
Every man should protect his balls but unless you are missing some I don't see any advantage to having moreWe need more balls. I can't find a single player to complain about.
Yeah I can see that.I feel like this is misconstrued. The criticism has been that the need at RT was greater and there were very good players available. The other criticism was that they took a ILB at 8 and then didn't play him. None of those are critical of Simmons as a player. I don't feel like I have ever read a post questioning Simmons as a player on this board.
and we can disagree about Wirfs vs Simmons, or Lamb vs Simmons, but those debates do not equate to criticism of Simmons the player. Only point I was trying to make.Yeah I can see that.
I would argue that having defensive playmaker is huge, and few ILBs have Simmons skill set.
Plus he brings a positive attitudeI’m going to tell you who deserves a game ball and he didn’t have great stats. JJ Watt. Dude made some huge tackles early on Henry and you could tell the OL was worried about him on a few of Jones’s sacks. His leadership I guarantee was on display and his motor. He is as good as advertised. He is a difference maker without getting big stats.
I don’t know about others, but I’ve always thought chase was at least an average back. Hoped maybe we found a gem like shady McCoy or Westbrook, but I know that’s a long shot. Like you it’s his durability that’s the biggest question for me.Chase played about as good as Chase normally does when he gets touches. I've never understood the Chase doubt other than his durability.
Agreed. The most criticism of Simmons I’ve seen have been either a) he’s being played outta position at ILB or b) maybe he wasn’t picking up the D quickly - which was really more conjecture early and mid season last year than late or into the offseason.I feel like this is misconstrued. The criticism has been that the need at RT was greater and there were very good players available. The other criticism was that they took a ILB at 8 and then didn't play him. None of those are critical of Simmons as a player. I don't feel like I have ever read a post questioning Simmons as a player on this board.
This is why I let out my annoyance in a rather jerkish manner yesterday:I don’t know about others, but I’ve always thought chase was at least an average back. Hoped maybe we found a gem like shady McCoy or Westbrook, but I know that’s a long shot. Like you it’s his durability that’s the biggest question for me.
Shout out to freaking Vance Joseph too... first game, East Coast on the road, against a recent playoff team with high expectations, media ramming it down everyone throats not giving us a chance, welcome to the NFC West Titans and have fun with the other three gamesGame balls offense:
Murray. Probably his best game yet. The Cardinals rarely win when Murray doesn't put up big rushing numbers, but he rarely ran yesterday. He also completed a few throws while scrambling which he has struggled to do in the past.
Hopkins. DHop is the rock in which this offense is built on. Did anyone notice that he ran routes from different positions? Looks like Kingsbury did a proper post mortem last season. Hopkins will have another monster year.
Kirk. I said it all offseason, Kirk was going to be much better in the slot and it proved true.
Honorable mentions: Rondale and Chase. Both made plays. Chase had over 100 yards total offense. He will easily go over 1000 yards this year. Rondale makes a good offense even better. He was the missing piece to run WR screens, though Kirk can be good running screens too so it shouldn't be too predictable.
Jones. I think most of us were sleeping on Jones. He looks better than ever and he beat up a damn good LT.
Simmons. He has gotten a lot of negativity from fans on this board, but he is a great player when he is able to have simple keys to read. Simmons should post a lot of splash plays this year.
Murphy. It was always fake news that Murphy was a bad player. His statistics showed he was an average corner last year. Its not crazy to expect a 2nd year corner to improve going into year three, which is when alot of NFL players really take off. Murphy made a few big PBUs and it didn't look like he will struggle as the #1 guy.
Honorable mentions: Watt, Wilson/Alford, and Hicks. Watt was sucking up blockers and make nice trench plays. He will make the rest of the DL better. Wilson and Alford quietly played well. Hicks will play a lot of snaps this year against run heavy teams and he will be a steady player.
Shout out to Kingsbury. He calls a much better game than fans give him credit. His game management undermines him at times, but he calls as good and offensive game as any Cardinals playcaller has.
Please don't call out others for being darksiders. This schtick is getting old.Murphy
A decent player who has been much maligned by darksiders, but not based on actual performance.
Cardinals 1 - Darkside 0
His game plan was great. First and foremost stop the run on your way to QB. Pressure on Tannehill was the reason the Titans offense imploded.Shout out to freaking Vance Joseph too... first game, East Coast on the road, against a recent playoff team with high expectations, media ramming it down everyone throats not giving us a chance, welcome to the NFC West Titans and have fun with the other three games
But the truth was none of had a real idea what chase would be as a more primary back. I can see both sides of the coin with him. In limited action he’s looked good. But he is smaller and when he’s had bigger loads it hasn’t always been great. He’s now venturing into unexplored territory for his NFL career, so I think it was reasonable for people to see both potential scenarios play out.This is why I let out my annoyance in a rather jerkish manner yesterday:
YES there were a lot of "ifs" on the roster, but quite a few posters stretched situations to make them MORE negative than they really were. This is the most talented Cardinals team since 2015, easily, and if you look at some of the comments on this board, you'd assume it wasn't.
Chase Edmonds is a good NFL running back. He hasn't had a ton of opportunities, but when he has been called on, he has played pretty well for the most part. Some posters acted like Chase is a total scrub and that's just blatantly false.
Edmonds and Conner are average NFL RBs and you can win with average RBs.
9 game balls seems like they are participation trophies. Fight me.Kyler Murray
Chandler Jones
C. Kirk
D. Hop
Isiah Simmons
The whole secondary against those two WRs. Which admit we were all shaking in our boots about.