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I've gone from praying that Melisandre resurrects Jon Snow to hoping she just puts that damn choker back on.

Ha ha! I totally agree. I hope she never takes off that choker again!
 

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I was at a party with five others watching this one. Okay, a fine start, and then...crap. Either extremely predictable (oh, and now THIS is obviously going to happen) or a continuance of terrible story lines:
They STILL can't write Dorne to save their lives
. Plus, starting out how they did, abandoning the story line until the end of the episode, and completely schmuck baiting it for next week, was oh so lame.

Universal agreement at the party was that this was immensely disappointing. At the half hour mark, my one friend said, "Oh look, it's halfway over and nothing's happened!"
 

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overall...I enjoyed the episode...although it would appear the morons at HBO have absolutely ZERO clue what the ""Premier"" is supposed to do.... how about be effective enough so people just have to come back and see more? It seems every season "premier" from these guys is just..."whoa ,.. wait,...that's it?"
The Jon Snow story had way too much buzz all off season for them to put any finality on it.
I like that Arya is learning what it means to be "nobody"

Was glad to see Theon Greyjoy make an appearance..

I was surprised Cersie didn't go all ape**** and blame Tyrion for her daughters death...and berate Jamie into hunting him down and killing him....which of course he would never do..

Throughout the series the impression had been given that the red witch was a young exe hooker taken in by the church and sent out into the world.....
obviously that is not the case...the young part anyway....apparently her hooking days were several generations back...

my ol'lady and I were discussing how nice Melisandre's rack was...then the reflection changed...

Me.. "damn , that rack sure dropped"...
Ol'lady, "holy ****! what happened to her?"
the camera scrolls back as crony red witch turns and walks to the bed, focused on her back.
me, "don't show the ancient ass, please, don't show the ass"

they showed the drooping withered 150 year old woman ass....

me, "oh damn, why did they have to do that?"

the ol'lady, "ha, that was gross,...now watch them leave it at that"

me "nah, they can't just...."

credits.....they left it at that

how the hell are you supposed to look forward to next week?? I may need therapy to get over my fear of seeing another crone ass......

it's no wonder y'all are hating on the episode...I mean really...does ANYBODY acyually remember one thing clearly other than that saggy, droopy, wrinkle infested tired old hooker ass?

and,....know what??

Stannis hit that....

yeah..let it sink in......
 

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I was at a party with five others watching this one. Okay, a fine start, and then...crap. Either extremely predictable (oh, and now THIS is obviously going to happen) or a continuance of terrible story lines:
They STILL can't write Dorne to save their lives
. Plus, starting out how they did, abandoning the story line until the end of the episode, and completely schmuck baiting it for next week, was oh so lame.

Universal agreement at the party was that this was immensely disappointing. At the half hour mark, my one friend said, "Oh look, it's halfway over and nothing's happened!"

The problem is there's still too much going on at once that the show is a bit stretched thin, and with only 10 episodes/season, it's tough to tie a bow around everything.

Dany w/ the Dothraki, Arya at Braavos, Tyrion at Mereen, Dorne, King's Landing/The Faith, Ramsay at Winterfell, Sansa and Theon on the run (thank God Brienne joined them), The Night's Watch drama, Whitewalkers, Wildlings, and Bran (who hasn't even been touched since Season 4)

I'm sure Dorne has its purpose later on, but it's easily the biggest throwaway plot on the show.
 
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The problem is there's still too much going on at once that the show is a bit stretched thin, and with only 10 episodes/season, it's tough to tie a bow around everything.

Dany w/ the Dothraki, Arya at Braavos, Tyrion at Mereen, Dorne, King's Landing/The Faith, Ramsay at Winterfell, Sansa and Theon on the run (thank God Brienne joined them), The Night's Watch drama, Whitewalkers, Wildlings, and Bran (who hasn't even been touched since Season 4)

I'm sure Dorne has its purpose later on, but it's easily the biggest throwaway plot on the show.



and yet they insist on only making their "premier" and "Finale"...only one hour........ every episode leaves you wondering what happened to the last 15 minutes of show.... it seems they are actually making these shows for DVD these days.... designed to be binge watched on a Saturday after noon...it is the only way the show can have any flow.
 

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I think even dating back to Season 1 you will find people complaining that the episode before the season finale if often better than the finale. For example, in Season 3 the Red Wedding was much better than the last episode. The first episode of the Season always appears to be a setup for the rest of the season. So, although I agree there is a ton going on (probably too much) I am OK with it.

By the way writers....way to ruin Melisandre for me. LOL.
 

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It was a boring episode. Like the first ones are. I binge watched all the seasons until this one, so oaken was right, I never realized that the premier was all the boring as I just jumped to the next one. The only thing I really like was when Brienne became the protector of Sansa. Just thought it was cool as she did the same to Sansas mom.
 

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This was absolutely a "bridge" episode that happens to be the premiere. Basically addresses ALL the storylines from the finale last season and pushes them in a direction.

Dorne needs to get way more interesting and fast, because that is now the most boring part of the show. I'm worried about the Daenarys stuff because she seems to be going further and further away from actually achieving her goal. You know, of invading and claiming Westeros.
But there was a lot of good stuff, led by the Brienne rescue of Sansa. Tyrion and Varys are always interesting to watch together. The whole Melisandre thing was fascinating--not exactly fun to watch, but fascinating. And Davos is such a great character. And perfect casting across the board. I also was very impressed by Lena Headey in this episode, and how she mourned Myrcella by acknowledging how petty she herself is. Good character moment for a character that isn't exactly the most likable in the show.
 

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If Cerci somehow becomes a character fans root for like her brother did, it will be the biggest shocker of the series and a master's course in writing. I'm not saying that will happen, but if after so many seasons of detesting her, if that ill-will goes away, I will do a slow-clap.
 

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If Cerci somehow becomes a character fans root for like her brother did, it will be the biggest shocker of the series and a master's course in writing. I'm not saying that will happen, but if after so many seasons of detesting her, if that ill-will goes away, I will do a slow-clap.

I don't know. I don't cheer for either of them. I have a little bit more sympathy for Cerci now. However, I still want revenge for the Starks and wouldn't mind seeing either suffer a horrible death by the end of the series. No matter what they write it doesn't change what horrible people they are.
 

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This was absolutely a "bridge" episode that happens to be the premiere. Basically addresses ALL the storylines from the finale last season and pushes them in a direction.

Dorne needs to get way more interesting and fast, because that is now the most boring part of the show. I'm worried about the Daenarys stuff because she seems to be going further and further away from actually achieving her goal. You know, of invading and claiming Westeros.
But there was a lot of good stuff, led by the Brienne rescue of Sansa. Tyrion and Varys are always interesting to watch together. The whole Melisandre thing was fascinating--not exactly fun to watch, but fascinating. And Davos is such a great character. And perfect casting across the board. I also was very impressed by Lena Headey in this episode, and how she mourned Myrcella by acknowledging how petty she herself is. Good character moment for a character that isn't exactly the most likable in the show.

Yeah I totally agree.

The Brienne rescue of Sansa was a high point. Plus Theon doing everything possible to protect Sansa. Theon's character has really been to hell and back and some of it was deserved but he seems to be redeeming himself.

I agree Davos is a great character. Really curious to see how his character evolves in the future.

I got a kick out of the horse lords debating whether seeing Daenerys naked for the first time was really one of the greatest things of all times. Eventually they got the Khal to agree that maybe it was a top 5 thing. LOL

I'm annoyed with where Arya's character is going. She was one of my favorites but her character has gotten stale since she ended up Braavos
 

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Who still thinks Red Women will bring Jon Snow back to life? I do!
 

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Who still thinks Red Women will bring Jon Snow back to life? I do!

so do I...they in no way provided closure on that storyline...if anything they added fuel to the fire by displaying exactly what type of power melisandre has.....
I mean come on...that crone has to be over a hundred,...and an admitted exe prostitute...
but whom among us didn't want to hit it ourselves?........... that is some serious power right there....

I enjoyed the Brienne segment....didn't she look relieved to finally have someone to serve?
Glad to see Theon coming back to himself...that character can still provide a lot of storylines.....I remember being so disappointed while reading the books.... Theon was a weasel, but he is not evil...
would like to see it come full circle, and have him face off with Ramsey at some point....Theon is no slouch with a blade.
Ramsey will be coming after them with a vengeance....did you see how casually his father threatened to take away his name? little dudes eyes almost popped....
 

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Yeah... Was definitely a bit of a meh, reset the table season premiere, but that last scene was a doozy.
 

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Dothraki Monty Python, and the Onion Knight being a smartass was good fun. Even the Imp and Eunuch scene just proves Meereen is the place where all great character/storylines go to become irrelevant.
 
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If Cerci somehow becomes a character fans root for like her brother did, it will be the biggest shocker of the series and a master's course in writing. I'm not saying that will happen, but if after so many seasons of detesting her, if that ill-will goes away, I will do a slow-clap.

Do TV show fans root for Jaime the way book fans did after his redemption arc?
Show watchers saw him rescue Brienne, but haven't quite gotten the whole Riverlands story yet, which is where his redemption really showed, IMO.
 

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Do TV show fans root for Jaime the way book fans did after his redemption arc?
Show watchers saw him rescue Brienne, but haven't quite gotten the whole Riverlands story yet, which is where his redemption really showed, IMO.

From reading the book I got the impression that the Jamie <-> Cersei relation was pretty much dead since he met Brienne. Yet the series seems like it is intending to rekindle their bond...

It is kind of confusing.
 

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From reading the book I got the impression that the Jamie <-> Cersei relation was pretty much dead since he met Brienne. Yet the series seems like it is intending to rekindle their bond...

It is kind of confusing.

Not really. Even though the TV show is derived from the book, they stand alone as mediums and are not expected to be conflated for discourse.

The same philosophy could be applied to the TV Shows thread and the Books thread here on ASFN. ;)
 

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Not really. Even though the TV show is derived from the book, they stand alone as mediums and are not expected to be conflated for discourse.

The same philosophy could be applied to the TV Shows thread and the Books thread here on ASFN. ;)

Yes but Jamie's redemption is a core part of the book and I think nobody wants to see more Jamie x Cersei stuff.

But who knows they completely butchered the Dorne story into something that is just totally disgusting.
 

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Pretty much everyone is complaining about Dorne. It feels like filler at this point.
 

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Pretty much everyone is complaining about Dorne. It feels like filler at this point.

I think there will be more to it now that the girls killed off the king and prince. BTW, how dumb was the prince to just turn his back on that women with the spear. :mulli:
 

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I think there will be more to it now that the girls killed off the king and prince. BTW, how dumb was the prince to just turn his back on that women with the spear. :mulli:

Dumb I agree but he was just a kid. I hope the Dorne story gets better like you said. It seems it would be hard to introduce some hot women that can fight as part of a larger arc and screw it up but so far they have.
 
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