George Lucas Claims That Han Solo Never Shot First In Star Wars

[Brian in Mesa]

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[Zeno]

Who cares who shot first? I don't get how it supposedly has some dramatic effect on the character of Han Solo, don't get why Lucas messed with it but also don't get why it gets so many fans up in arms. Bottom line is Greedo is dead.

I am a huge Star Wars fan too...from video games, to DVRing The Clone Wars cartoon, to reading nearly every book that comes out.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Who cares who shot first? I don't get how it supposedly has some dramatic effect on the character of Han Solo, don't get why Lucas messed with it but also don't get why it gets so many fans up in arms. Bottom line is Greedo is dead.

I am a huge Star Wars fan too...from video games, to DVRing The Clone Wars cartoon, to reading nearly every book that comes out.

Steve

 

[azsportsfan01]

Who cares who shot first? I don't get how it supposedly has some dramatic effect on the character of Han Solo, don't get why Lucas messed with it but also don't get why it gets so many fans up in arms. Bottom line is Greedo is dead.

I am a huge Star Wars fan too...from video games, to DVRing The Clone Wars cartoon, to reading nearly every book that comes out.

It changes Han's moral ambiguity. He goes from the outlaw with no morals only looking after himself to a guy with a conscience thus making his transformation from anti-hero to hero much less dramatic.

 

[Zeno]

It changes Han's moral ambiguity. He goes from the outlaw with no morals only looking after himself to a guy with a conscience thus making his transformation from anti-hero to hero much less dramatic.

Shooting a bounty hunter first makes his morals more questionable? It doesn't change the fact that he is a smuggler and does jobs for a crime lord.

What a bunch of psycho babble hooey.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Shooting a bounty hunter first makes his morals more questionable? It doesn't change the fact that he is a smuggler and does jobs for a crime lord.

What a bunch of psycho babble hooey.

The changes by Lucas make even less sense. Greedo is a hired gun yet he can't hit a sitting target from just a couple feet away when he has the draw on him? Lame. Seriously - he shoots from that close and misses and Han shoots back?

 

[Zeno]

The changes by Lucas make even less sense. Greedo is a hired gun yet he can't hit a sitting target from just a couple feet away when he has the draw on him? Lame. Seriously - he shoots from that close and misses and Han shoots back?

I can buy that being a complaint way more than Han shooting back changes his character with any kind of signficance.

Maybe Stormtroopers taught Greedo to shoot, they can't seem to hit anything.

 

[Cheesebeef]

seriously... the idea that Greedo shoots first and not only misses... but misses by a COUNTRY MILE while sitting right in front of Solo is ridiculous.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

You can criticize the work all you want. It's the personal attacks that blow me away.

It is called being a celebrity.

He only gets hundreds of millions of dollars to deal with it.



No sympathy for the man, and his whining about people picking on him.

This is not a 4th grade lunch period and there are no lunch ladies for Lucas to tell on the big men critics and fans about.

I guess he will just have to take solace in his billions.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

seriously... the idea that Greedo shoots first and not only misses... but misses by a COUNTRY MILE while sitting right in front of Solo is ridiculous.

Lucas actually answers that question ("How could you miss from so close?") in the edited Blu-Ray edition.



Skip to 0:46 for the, yet again, edited cantina showdown.

 

[Chaplin]

It is called being a celebrity.

He only gets hundreds of millions of dollars to deal with it.



No sympathy for the man, and his whining about people picking on him.

This is not a 4th grade lunch period and there are no lunch ladies for Lucas to tell on the big men critics and fans about.

I guess he will just have to take solace in his billions.

Absolutely true. But that applies to both sides of this ridiculous argument.

 

[Renz]

Lucas actually answers that question ("How could you miss from so close?") in the edited Blu-Ray edition.



Skip to 0:46 for the, yet again, edited cantina showdown.

Okay. Now that makes sense.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Lucas actually answers that question ("How could you miss from so close?") in the edited Blu-Ray edition.



Skip to 0:46 for the, yet again, edited cantina showdown.

Lucas will probably work that in the next edition for sure.

That, and this little known fact:

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[Gaddabout]

This is not a 4th grade lunch period and there are no lunch ladies for Lucas to tell on the big men critics and fans about.

So is it 5th grade? Maybe 6th?

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[Covert Rain]

Shooting a bounty hunter first makes his morals more questionable? It doesn't change the fact that he is a smuggler and does jobs for a crime lord.

What a bunch of psycho babble hooey.

I agree. I don't get this ridiculous debate.

People complain about Greedo missing at point blank range yet I find it more ridiculous that an experienced bounty hunter would first not make Han Solo keep his hand on the table and never get off a shot in the first place.

IMO, it would have been better had Lucas altered the scene so they shoot at the same time. That could account for Greedo's shot going askew.

The original scene the way it was played out was just as ridiculous IMO.

In terms of of the Special Editions, they were for the most part superior versions of the films that included additional footage and small CGI touches of things he wrote in the original scripts but couldn't afford to do.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

IMO, it would have been better had Lucas altered the scene so they shoot at the same time. That could account for Greedo's shot going askew.

That's what Lucas did for the Blu-Ray release version. They now shoot simultaneously.

 

[Covert Rain]

That's what Lucas did for the Blu-Ray release version. They now shoot simultaneously.

Problem solved IMO.

Funny because I have not watched it yet. I bought the Blu Ray set, watched Episode 1, started 2 and have been side tracked ever since.

Good to know. I will watch for it.

 

[D-Dogg]

...he thinks he's a genius...

~snip~

The third, and worst? His killing off the actual movie. Star Wars is a piece of cinematic history. In my mind, it is probably the most ground breaking science fiction film ever made. It is such a classic that the movie, along with the next two, made Lucas big enough to be as ******* as he's been all these years....

That would be because he IS a genius.

That, and this little known fact:

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[Cardinals.Ken]

Well, finally took the plunge and watched Star Wars again. Only this time, the Blu-Ray version.

I spotted another change...

 

[Mathew81]

Well, finally took the plunge and watched Star Wars again. Only this time, the Blu-Ray version.

I spotted another change...

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Well, finally took the plunge and watched Star Wars again. Only this time, the Blu-Ray version.

I spotted another change...

Now we just need Vader to shoot and miss before Han shoots at him (as soon as he sees him on Bespin).

 

[Shane]

OK BIM What am I missing other than he sounds like he sucked helium??

 

[Mathew81]

OK BIM What am I missing other than he sounds like he sucked helium??

The control panel gets off a shot at Han first

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The control panel gets off a shot at Han first