Give me ANYTHING, that convinces me that Kolb has more upside than Skelton

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I think you just told us goodbye, hope you didn't really mean it. Seriously, unless you expect Kolb and the team to turn it around you've pretty much hinged your Cardinals fandom on events you already know will happen. They will keep their phoney baloney jobs and Whiz will almost certainly blame this debacle of a season on the lockout.

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i've been leaning this way most of the off-season and into the season. i really hope they do the right thing, but if they don't, I just can't continue to waste time watching them.

i'm not proud to admit this, but everyone knows I LOVE football and basically decided to just skip this week's game altogether and then walked by a bar with a minute left in the game and stopped to watch and was literally PISSED when we blocked that FG on Sunday. that's a really bad sign for my fandom.
 

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The sad thing is we traded for both Skelton and Kolb. Giving up 2 CBs and 3 picks (IIRC). To think that highly of two QBs and whiff on both would be mind boggling, even by our low standards.

wow... did you really have to put it like that?
 

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I cant see them canning Graves. He deserves it more than anyone but unless the fans start chanting by the tens of thousands for his firing, it wont happen.

Whiz however is likely looking at the noose. If events dont change he MIGHT not get fired this offseason, but he would be a 1-4 start next year away from losing his job. And really, if we only win 2-3 games all year, especially if we end the year on a looooong losing streak against that cupcake schedule, Whiz probably is gone by the 2nd week of January.
 

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