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First of all, i was using the articles i was reading at the time and their opionions. I admitted my mistake. Something real men do. If you choose to take my admission and rub it in my face questioning my character... then so be it. Besides, were talking about one small part of the trade anyway.

honestly.... let it go...im out of it

i've still yet to see the article that says he's projected to be better than Pau. Unless of course you mean the one line where Pau himself says about HIS BROTHER that he could be better than him. But again, if that's what your using to make your opinion, then I don't know what to tell you.

and no one's questioning your character. i'm questioning your argument, which is laughable.
 
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i've still yet to see the article that says he's projected to be better than Pau. Unless of course you mean the one line where Pau himself says about HIS BROTHER that he could be better than him. But again, if that's what your using to make your opinion, then I don't know what to tell you.

and no one's questioning your character. i'm questioning your argument, which is laughable.

Look, your beating a dead horse here. I used the word projected. You questioned it. I changed it to he has the potential. If that's not good enouogh, sorry. Get over it. Yes, his own brother says he does. So what? I guess hes a myopic homer too. You are nitpicking a singular word or misuse of such and losing sight of the overall topic. To continually berate this point is useless.

The point of this whole conversation to begin with what that someone pointed out that we didnt just get Gasol for free. The fact is we mortgaged part of our future to do so. Unless of course you dont think developing draft picks and/or dumping a 9 mil contract is important in a teams future.

And excuse me if i feel comments such as "your being disingeneous, post nonsense, cant be objective, and myopic homer" are questioning my character. Those comments are very much directed to the person, not the argument.

Ill ask again, can we not just agree to disagree and let it go?

No hard feelings....
 
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it proves that all Laker fans aren't myopic homers. I mean good god, you tried to include Marc Gasol as a first round pick when he was a late 2nd rounder. If that's not kidding yourself I don't know what is.

But you forgot cheese, marc gasol is tearing up all those stiffs in europe, and memphis fans like cigars and gum. Besides crittenton could be the next chris paul. We just dont know how that trade will turn out. It could be highway robbery and it could be just grand larceny!
 

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Look, your beating a dead horse here. I used the word projected. You questioned it. I changed it to he has the potential. If that's not good enouogh, sorry. Get over it. Yes, his own brother says he does. So what? I guess hes a myopic homer too. You are nitpicking a singular word or misuse of such and losing sight of the overall topic. To continually berate this point is useless.

The point of this whole conversation to begin with what that someone pointed out that we didnt just get Gasol for free. The fact is we mortgaged part of our future to do so. Unless of course you dont think developing draft picks and/or dumping a 9 mil contract is important in a teams future.

And excuse me if i feel comments such as "your being disingeneous, post nonsense, cant be objective, and myopic homer" are questioning my character. Those comments are very much directed to the person, not the argument.

Ill ask again, can we not just agree to disagree and let it go?

No hard feelings....

i have no hard feelings. i just feel like you're looking at this through rose-colored glasses.
 

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i have no hard feelings. i just feel like you're looking at this through rose-colored glasses.


There is no doubt we are looking at it from opposite extremes. I have never denied it was/is a great deal for the lakers. However, for people to imply the lakers got him for nothing is absurd. No need to go over the pieces.

Trades are not evaluated completely at the time of trade. We traded Caron Butler for Kwame for example. At the time it was a small risk because Caron had not yet developed into the all star hes become. You look at it now and it goes from small risk to outright insane. With picks involved, its even more hypothetical. I happen to value draft picks.

Everyone is acting like Gasol is the new Kareem or Wilt. He fits in great with our team. The piece we needed. He's a very good offensive player but in my opinion very weak defensively. Reality says hes a one time all star in a 7 year career. He's soft in the middle. You guys yourself have said if we matched up with you in the playoffs that Amare would simply crush him. Yes, the same amare you all are now bagging on. But regardless, hes a quality player and his style fits in perfectly with us.

So, yes, maybe i am looking through rose colored glasses. Don't we all at some time when it comes to our teams?

My opinion was, is, and will continue to be that it was a good deal for us. I am concerned about the possible impact the loss of picks could create as i value developing them (turiaff,farmar,sasha,walton etc). The 9 mil also could have been used to get a very good FA in the off season so I do not think we got him for "BASICALLY NOTHING". I will wait to judge the overall trade when the picks are used and all is said and done. I don't know how you can do otherwise. But that is my opinion and i'm entitled to it while wearing rose glasses ot not.

If that makes me myopic and disengenious... then so be it.

Go Hawks! Go Hornets!
 
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But you forgot cheese, marc gasol is tearing up all those stiffs in europe, and memphis fans like cigars and gum. Besides crittenton could be the next chris paul. We just dont know how that trade will turn out. It could be highway robbery and it could be just grand larceny!

I find it a little ironic that you call them stiffs from europe like there are no decent leagues or talent over there and yet your own team cannot get past one that is comprised of so many.


Ohhh....i bet this is were i get the refs and sterns conspiricy babble again.
 

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I find it a little ironic that you call them stiffs from europe like there are no decent leagues or talent over there and yet your own team cannot get past one that is comprised of so many.


Ohhh....i bet this is were i get the refs and sterns conspiricy babble again.

Yeah Tim DUncan is a euro stiff, I get ya! Just keep blabbering about your dead horse that you cant seem to let go of.
 

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Yeah Tim DUncan is a euro stiff, I get ya! Just keep blabbering about your dead horse that you cant seem to let go of.

parker? oberto? ginobili? Udoka?

And before you bring up the obvious that some are from south america, they made their bones in the euro leagues.

As for the dead horse... simply replying to your taunts.
Have a good one.
 

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parker? oberto? ginobili? Udoka?

And before you bring up the obvious that some are from south america, they made their bones in the euro leagues.

As for the dead horse... simply replying to your taunts.
Have a good one.

why dont you go stalk cheesebeef or something? udoka? manu(3-11)? oberto (4ppg?). Yeeeeeeeah!
 

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why dont you go stalk cheesebeef or something? udoka? manu(3-11)? oberto (4ppg?). Yeeeeeeeah!

Stalk? Im replying to posts directed at me or the topic i was in discussion about. I happen to have a lot of respect for Cheese's posts. Yours as well. That doenst mean i agree with them all and wont ague my points. Stalk? That's really amusing.

As for this one... i watched the series. Who was that little point gaurd torching you game in and game out? Funny how you leave out the obvious when making these idiotic points.

If you dont expect replys to your taunts, then don't post them.
 
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