Gonzalez left out and upset

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PHOENIX -- Luis Gonzalez never likes to see his name out of the lineup, but his omission Thursday in the final game of a four-game series with the Dodgers was particularly upsetting.

After struggling at the plate during the first half of the season, Gonzalez has experienced a resurgence this month. He had three hits Wednesday night against the Dodgers, including a double that tied him with Ted Williams for 31st on the all-time list.
In July, he's hitting .358 with nine of his 19 hits doubles.
So when Gonzalez was not in the lineup against Dodgers left-hander Mark Hendrickson, he clearly was not happy. In his place was Carlos Quentin, one of the team's top prospects, who had his contract purchased from Triple-A Tucson earlier in the day.
"Of course I'm disappointed," Gonzalez said. "I'm just starting to swing the bat well in the second half. It's nothing against Quentin, I'm excited he has the chance to come up and play, but at the same time I'm starting to swing the bat well, I feel good and we're playing the Dodgers."
D-Backs manager Bob Melvin explained the decision to start Quentin, a righty, by saying he wanted to give the lefty-swinging Gonzalez a day off against Hendrickson.
"It's just going to be a one-day thing," Melvin said. "Gonzo will be back out there tomorrow. But certainly Gonzo wants to play every day and I don't blame him and he's swinging the bat well and I expect him to continue to swing the bat well."
"I don't care if they say it's a one-day thing or not," Gonzalez said. "I take a lot of pride in playing and being out there every day. I've been a warrior out here for eight years trying to be a rock for the club so it just doesn't sit well with me right now."
Gonzalez has long been the face of the franchise, but relations between him and the front office this year have at times been awkward. The 38-year-old is in the final year of his contract with the club holding a $10 million option for next year. With top prospects like Quentin and Scott Hairston showing they are ready at Triple-A, it seems unlikely the club will pick up that option.
Last month, a comment by managing general partner Ken Kendrick acknowledging that there had been "whispers" about Gonzalez and performance-enhancing drugs when he slugged 57 homers in 2001 furthered the rift between the two sides.
Quentin's promotion came less than a week after shortstop Stephen Drew was called up from Tucson. Drew took the place of veteran Craig Counsell, who suffered a broken rib, while Quentin takes the place of first baseman Tony Clark, who has a strained shoulder.
Gonzalez said that there are a "couple" of veterans in the clubhouse in addition to himself who are wondering whether the front office really wants to win in 2006. Arizona began play in third place, three games behind the Padres.
"I love my teammates," Gonzalez said. "I love my coaches. I love playing for BoMel. He's my all-time favorite manager. Other than that I just don't know what's happening upstairs, what direction we're going. We're making a push right now, we're three games out and now they want to, I don't know, bring up guys here and there. I understand with Drew it was Counsell getting hurt. I just kind of wish the organization would let myself and maybe a couple of the other guys know what their immediate plans are going to be.
"Are we trying to win it? We're too close to start doing other things."
GM Josh Byrnes does not comment on lineup decisions, but since taking over last November, Byrnes has emphasized that the club's goal is to be competitive in 2006 and beyond. Both Quentin and Drew's Triple-A numbers were hard to ignore. Drew posted an .802 OPS (on-base plus slugging) mark, while Quentin had a .912 OPS including a .424 on-base percentage.
 

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LOL -- Beat me to the punch, GreenMachine -- Poor Gonzo. He has never been good with the rookies, he's always sounded jealous and small about that one thing. 'Me and a couple other guys...' 'Are we trying to win it?'

Like there's no way these kids will be as good contributing as, say, ummm... veteran Tony Clark? Drew already looks better than Counsell has, and I like Counsell.
 

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Gonzo shows he is not a team player. It's all about him. He just cares about getting more doubles. If Gonzo does not like it, ask for a trade.

Also, I just hope Melvin keeps Drew in even when Counsell comes back.
 

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AZZenny said:
LOL -- Beat me to the punch, GreenMachine -- Poor Gonzo. He has never been good with the rookies, he's always sounded jealous and small about that one thing. 'Me and a couple other guys...' 'Are we trying to win it?'

Like there's no way these kids will be as good contributing as, say, ummm... veteran Tony Clark? Drew already looks better than Counsell has, and I like Counsell.

Gonzo just won't accept that he isn't the player he was even a few years ago. He's really a 0 tool player...forget about 5 tools, he has none. He is making a big fuss about everything (I for one feel the comments Kendrick made a while back weren't that bad, I mean, who hasn't at least thought that Gonzo may have been on something at the time?), but now when he is benched against a lefty (I saw a stat that says Luis is hitting .220 against lefties) he gets all upset.

The organization owes Gonzo some respect, yes, and they haven't gone Matt Williams on him (try to trade him, then can't, then cut him in the middle of the season), which is good. But Gonzo also owes the Dbacks, seeing how he went from journeyman outfielder to all star here.

I also don't think any one player is above the team, so if Gonzo wants to be traded I am sure the front office would have no problem getting it done, provided Luis drops his demand that any team that trades for him picks up his option for next year. That just won't happen...anywhere...
 

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Since when does one of the worst outfielders in baseball deserve to know who and when anybody is coming up? Hey Luis - try hitting the ball, hustling on defense, and keeping your mouth shut and maybe you won't have to worry about losing your job to a rookie. Remind me again why are we getting rid of Green and not this guy? Oh yeah, because steroids made him good about five years ago.:rolleyes:
 
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He is acting like Shea Hillenbrand with this situation, he sucks agaisnt lefties
 

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Too bad he feels the need to bash the organization that has given him and his family more than he could have ever dreamed of. He hasn't been an impact player is some time. If the writing is on the wall, then Luis gave the team the marker to write with his play. Its kind of sad that it has to end this way but I have to side with the organization on this one. I've heard from some inside sources that Gonzo has had this "me" attitude for years. NEWSFLASH! This is pro sports. You are a millionaire playing a kids game. Your production has dropped. If it can happen to Bernie Williams, a future Hall of Famer, than it can happen to Luis Gonzales. This is how moneyball works and this is how the A's have remained at the top of their division. Trade him now for whatever you can get.


Kinda funny how everyone was in such an uproar a couple months back when Kendrick talked about the whispers surrounding Gonz, as if that was breaking news that some thought he was on juice. Time to cut him loose. Give him to the Yankees.
 
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I'm not sure how Bernie is a future HOF'er, but your point still remains. Bernie Williams took his demotion last year like a man and did not try and drag down the Yankees with him. He did not throw a tantrum when the Yanks brought up Melky Cabrera or signed Johnny Damon, he kept his mouth shout and did his job like a true professional and leader.
 

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I think about how Atlanta's veteran players handled the influx of kids last year -- very classy, saw themselves as mentoring the next generation of Braves, no sniping, supportive in the media -- talking about what fun it was to have the ridiculous energy and excitement in the clubhouse, the learning on the field, all good here. Partly, though, that's the tone I think the Manager sets, and Clarabell does defend his veterans at every turn.

I still cannot believe they gave BoMel TWO friggin YEARS!! Where's that puke smiley...
 

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We all have to remember that Gonzo is mainly pissed at Moorad, his former agent. His "front office" rants are directed at him and may be of value. I'm sure Byrnes will say he is accountable but I have a feeling it was Moorads call and Gonzo knew that and felt like he got stabbed in the back. Who knows if anyone from the front office is even communicating with Gonzo or if their hiding behind their desks???? Don't get me wrong, I am the first to admit that Gonzo is a shell of his old self and doesn't deserve a spot in the everyday OF anymore. Also, Kendrick called him out recently about steroids so he very much on the defense.

It is time for the youth movement to begin but I can see how Gonzo could be upset... Plus, we all have to remember that Gonzo is by far and away the most sensitivie player to ever play in the MLB. He gets upset at Thom and Grace for crying out loud
 

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I'm sorry but the front office doesn't have any responsibility to tell Luis whats goin on. He needs to accept the fact that he's on the decline and that the young guys can actually play. He claims they aren't trying to win but quite frankly guys like Drew and Quentin actually give them a better chance to win than Clark and Counsell. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing them cut Gonzo if he keeps crying.
 
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Plus, we all have to remember that Gonzo is by far and away the most sensitivie player to ever play in the MLB. He gets upset at Thom and Grace for crying out loud
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Also, I just hope Melvin keeps Drew in even when Counsell comes back.

I'm sure we'll have more complaining when Counsell gets off the DL. But Drew is already proven he can play at this level. You gotta keep the kid in there.
 

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"Are we trying to win it? We're too close to start doing other things."

I think this is exactly what they are trying to do. Gonzo should look at the numbers once in a while.
 

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If the Cardinals traded for Terrell Owens Phoenix would have the most sensitive players in all of sports

Gonzo, Marion, Owens and Gretzky
 

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Drew is the real deal for sure! He is STAR written all over him. He reminds me a great deal of Jeter in the field, and he looks even better at the plate. of course, Jeter will one day go down as one of the greatest clutch hitters to ever play the game, so time will tell of Drew can reach that level... but I like his chances!

As for Gonzo... his reaction shouldn't come as too much of a surprise... The man is filled with a ton of pride. And at this stage in his career, it's tough to look yourself in the mirror and admit that the skills are eroding - quickly, and it's time to slowly step aside...
I hope he shuts his mouth and accepts reality... He's a classy guy and I would hate to see him tarnish a stellar and honorable career...
 

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Ryanwb said:
Oh please....

There are a ton of players to attack... But here's a guy who has done nothing but play his heart out for "your" team, and because he let his pride get the best of him and made a comment that he shouldn't have (as if he's the only guy who's ever done that) you attack him??
Way to be a fan...
 

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There are a ton of players to attack... But here's a guy who has done nothing but play his heart out for "your" team, and because he let his pride get the best of him and made a comment that he shouldn't have (as if he's the only guy who's ever done that) you attack him??
Way to be a fan...

Oh god, don't start with the "way to be a fan" crap. I can cheer and jeer anyone I wish, that is what being a fan is. I owe nothing to these players just as they owe nothing to me. If he truely had any pride he would take his rightful seat on the bench. I don't pay money to see someone with the weakest arm in baseball trot around the field so he can feel good about himself. So you can take your Gonzo apologist **** else where.
 

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