Goran talks about the Suns. . .again

[JCSunsfan]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240350/Goran-Dragic-Suns-Always-Changing-Something

“Me and Bledsoe, we built really great chemistry together, we played well and the whole team did. Everybody expected that we’re going to get some big guys that we thought we needed, but they did another move, they bring in a point guard and it was tough,” Dragic told Yahoo. “I was a little bit frustrated. It was tough, especially for me, because I was playing off the ball all the time, and I was guarding [small forwards]. That was tough for me, but they did what they did.”

So, I am curious. What was so threatening about IT? Was he too good? Its obvious Goran wanted to handle the ball and not guard SF's. He obviously did NOT like any 3 guard lineups. It was clear from things he said to management that he did not like playing with Bledsoe, but now he is saying something different.

I cannot see how the Suns, even in that situation, could NOT change things. They had to get star players. Goran and Bledsoe was not 2 of a big 3.

Oh well. We could talk it to death.

 

[BC867]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240350/Goran-Dragic-Suns-Always-Changing-Something

“Me and Bledsoe, we built really great chemistry together, we played well and the whole team did. Everybody expected that we’re going to get some big guys that we thought we needed, but they did another move, they bring in a point guard and it was tough,” Dragic told Yahoo. “I was a little bit frustrated. It was tough, especially for me, because I was playing off the ball all the time, and I was guarding [small forwards]. That was tough for me, but they did what they did.”

So, I am curious. What was so threatening about IT? Was he too good? Its obvious Goran wanted to handle the ball and not guard SF's. He obviously did NOT like any 3 guard lineups. It was clear from things he said to management that he did not like playing with Bledsoe, but now he is saying something different.

I cannot see how the Suns, even in that situation, could NOT change things. They had to get star players. Goran and Bledsoe was not 2 of a big 3.

Oh well. We could talk it to death.

Except for Goran's first sentence, I think that this recent quote is valid. We know he did not appreciate being bumped from Point Guard, especially after having been selected All-NBA 3rd team following Bledsoe's injury.

His point about expecting to get some big guys and instead adding a 3rd Point Guard to the mix is valid. As is his complaint of having to play almost exclusively off the ball. And having to guard Small Forwards.

My goodness, if you were a Point Guard (and All-NBA to boot), then found yourself playing off the ball on offense and guarding Forwards on defense, would you be happy?

I don't see any vengeance in what Goran said. He summarized well what started the Suns downfall.

Anything that puts pressure on the Suns powers that be is a good thing in my opinion. And a public figure who says what many of us have been saying will hopefully put pressure on them that we, the fans, can't.

Except by boycotting the Suns. Which could lead to them moving. That would be the ultimate insult to us.

 

[sunsfan88]

Goran Dragic: Suns Always Changing Something


Goran Dragic has his own theory for the struggles of the Phoenix Suns.

“It feels like they’re always changing something,” Dragic told Yahoo Sports. “They’re not like Miami, San Antonio, those teams that are really loyal when they find something.”

Dragic was traded by the Suns last February to the Miami Heat after the team signed a third ball dominant guard in Isaiah Thomas to go with him and Eric Bledsoe.

“Me and Bledsoe, we built really great chemistry together, we played well and the whole team did. Everybody expected that we’re going to get some big guys that we thought we needed, but they did another move, they bring in a point guard and it was tough,” Dragic told Yahoo. “I was a little bit frustrated. It was tough, especially for me, because I was playing off the ball all the time, and I was guarding [small forwards]. That was tough for me, but they did what they did.”

Dragic will return to play the Suns on Friday.

“I always believe when you find some pieces that you leave those pieces [alone]. But then you upgrade the other positions. Like San Antonio is doing. They always have the Big Three, but then it’s a good team. They always find another player at another position, so they’re always good. But that’s not my call,” Dragic told Yahoo, with an uncomfortable chuckle. “I was just there to play basketball. I tried to do my job.”

He's talking about the Suns MUCH less than other Suns such as Marcus Morris.

And he's only answering questions about the Suns because the hot topic around the NBA right now is Sarver's idiotic take on the millennium and how that's why the Suns are such a crappy team and because the Suns are scheduled to play Miami later this week.

There's really nothing wrong with what he said. He said it numerous times when he was here that he liked Bledsoe and that he enjoyed playing with him. Rather than leaving the backcourt alone and improving the front court after the 48 win season, the Suns tried to fix something that wasn't broke and went and brought in IT. IT wasn't a bad player by any means but the fit was ******** awful since we already had a successful backcourt on our hands. Also, every PG in the NBA would hate having to guard SFs. Their PGs, their not supposed to be out there defending guys three times their weight and size.

I think acquiring IT just pissed off Dragic cause he figured that even once they trade IT, they may go and bring in another guard again in the future because of the Suns sick obsession with PGs and that's why he decided he just wants out of this damn franchise.

Either way, at this point, Dragic hasn't lived up to the hefty contract that he got anyway so no big loss for us from that standpoint.

I always do wonder how far the Suns could have gone though had they just left the Dragic-Bledsoe backcourt alone because when Bledsoe was healthy that season, we smashed teams with that duo combination. We were like 24-10 or something in games that both of them played.

 

[JCSunsfan]

But he had to know WHY IT was brought in. It was because the Suns were unsure what was going to happen with Bledsoe and that ridiculous free agency silent treatment.

 

[Phrazbit]

Well, Goran never really guards anyone so... whats the difference?

And should we really care about what he thinks anyway? All of his complaints have been totally invalidated by his lousy play in Miami. Goran's struggles last year were because Goran is a mediocre player. He had a nice, brief, statistical run in a system geared perfectly for him but did not endear it to team success.

 

[slinslin]

Except for Goran's first sentence, I think that this recent quote is valid. We know he did not appreciate being bumped from Point Guard, especially after having been selected All-NBA 3rd team following Bledsoe's injury.

His point about expecting to get some big guys and instead adding a 3rd Point Guard to the mix is valid. As is his complaint of having to play almost exclusively off the ball. And having to guard Small Forwards.

My goodness, if you were a Point Guard (and All-NBA to boot), then found yourself playing off the ball on offense and guarding Forwards on defense, would you be happy?

I don't see any vengeance in what Goran said. He summarized well what started the Suns downfall.

Anything that puts pressure on the Suns powers that be is a good thing in my opinion. And a public figure who says what many of us have been saying will hopefully put pressure on them that we, the fans, can't.

Except by boycotting the Suns. Which could lead to them moving. That would be the ultimate insult to us.

Dragic is no more of a PG than either Bledsoe or Knight.

 

[slinslin]

Easy to say that the Spurs keep their pieces.

Which organisation in the league would not have kept Duncan around at all time. It is easy to say that when you are having success.

The Suns are sucking for 7 years. Of course there are changes because we have not found anyone worth building around since.

 

[hcsilla]

Well, Goran never really guards anyone so... whats the difference?

And should we really care about what he thinks anyway? All of his complaints have been totally invalidated by his lousy play in Miami.

I disagree, at least partially.

Dragic plays in a much slower offense in a much more reduced role. He doesn't have to initiate the offense and just has to pass the ball to his closest teammate. When they can start a fastbreak, he is the 1st guy to run and has to hit the occasional three (which he doesn't) but that's it.

 

[leclerc]

I don't have a problem with what he's saying. Having three starter quality PGs must be the dumbest roster ever. There's one ball! PGs are usually the smallest dudes on the team!

I would rather have Goran than either (not mentioning both!) of Bledsoe and Knight for the same duration/price.

I agree with slinslin. We don't have a centerpiece.

 

[chickenhead]

I like Dragic, but he was going to be more expensive than his value (he is right now for Miami). There's nothing wrong with what he's saying, except for the assumption that he was the piece to build around. The fact that the Suns have bungled their roster doesn't really change that.

 

[sunsfan88]

https://twitter.com/diamond83/status/684786703194701824

https://twitter.com/ScottHoward42/status/684916958089711617

Who's next to rip on the Suns...maybe Gentry?

 

[Chaplin]

Lindsey Hunter? Really? Failure criticizing failure. Yeah, he should be taken seriously.

You're just looking for negativity now.

 

[Catlover]

Lindsey Hunter? Really? Failure criticizing failure. Yeah, he should be taken seriously.

You're just looking for negativity now.

Now? He's all but trademarked this move.

 

[sunsfan88]

Lindsey Hunter? Really? Failure criticizing failure. Yeah, he should be taken seriously.

You're just looking for negativity now.

When did I say that Hunter's right? I'm just saying what he said. There's no doubt he's an idiot and that's why I wondered if another idiot coach like Gentrt is gonna be next to say something. But Gentry is probably preoccupied trying to save the sinking Pelicans.

And since you went that far, no, as a Suns fan, you never have to search or look for negativity, it comes naturally when thinking about the team especially in its current stance.

 

[sunsfan88]

Now? He's all but trademarked this move.

Yea I would rather that than be a homer or make excuses for every single thing like you quite honestly.

 

[Phrazbit]

When did I say that Hunter's right? I'm just saying what he said. There's no doubt he's an idiot and that's why I wondered if another idiot coach like Gentrt is gonna be next to say something. But Gentry is probably preoccupied trying to save the sinking Pelicans.

And since you went that far, no, as a Suns fan, you never have to search or look for negativity, it comes naturally when thinking about the team especially in its current stance.

You spam random twitter garbage on a daily basis, regardless of the source, the only commonality is that they're always negative.

When you're digging around to share what a clown like Lindsey Hunter has to say then, yes, you're going out of the way to find this crap.

 

[JCSunsfan]

You spam random twitter garbage on a daily basis, regardless of the source, the only commonality is that they're always negative.

When you're digging around to share what a clown like Lindsey Hunter has to say then, yes, you're going out of the way to find this crap.

Interesting. In his interview this morning Al McCoy said he thinks that Goran has warm feelings for the Suns and wishes he was back here.

 

[Phrazbit]

Interesting. In his interview this morning Al McCoy said he thinks that Goran has warm feelings for the Suns and wishes he was back here.

I suspect he is having some serious remorse about joining Miami. Especially since I feel he is more about his own comfort and production than being part of a winning team. He is more marginalized there than he ever was here, and by all accounts the Suns offered to appease him and ship off IT (which they did anyway) and he still forced the issue... while giving them a selection of bad teams in glamorous cities.

If he'd forced his way out and said either he didn't care where he went or that he wanted to go somewhere to be a key cog in the offense I would have understood his decision, but to whine that he wanted out because of his "role" and then give a list of bad teams with franchise players in place who would leave him even more marginalized... I lost a ton of respect for the guy.

 

[FArting]

https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/735121963996221440

 

[RON_IN_OC]

https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/735121963996221440

Meh, means nothing.

Remember when Carlos Boozer swore he'd resign with Chicago, if they let him out of his deal? Then he signs with Utah...

 

[elindholm]

So he said he would re-sign, and then he said he wouldn't re-sign, and then he got all bent out of shape when the Suns decided that they couldn't figure out what he would do. Okay.

 

[chickenhead]

I don't think it had to get to that point, I liked Goran, and I am certainly not blindly pro-organization. But he said he wouldn't re-sign, he was already expensive, and they got what could be a very good deal for him. He made his half of the bed. I'm much more concerned with what they do with the picks...

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah, this doesn't change much for me. A 3rd flip flop is hard to take seriously. His list of destinations he was willing to play for speaks louder than anything else, he was going to chase big money in a big market.

 

[PDXChris]

Meh, means nothing.

Remember when Carlos Boozer swore he'd resign with Chicago, if they let him out of his deal? Then he signs with Utah...

No, I don't. I do remember him doing that to Cleveland though.

 

[Ronin]

https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/735121963996221440

Who is leaking this info? Who's the snitch?