Gortat & Dudley to start?!

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Yeah because first round picks are worthless that is why any contender is built around their first round picks.

Name me one title contender that built their roster around mediocre project picks? Almost all I can think of either made a trade for a franchise level player or hit rock bottom and drafted a franchise player early in the draft. Usually it's a combination of both. Nobody builds a title contender with mediocre project picks.
 
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I still don't think Gortat starting will make much of a difference. What might, though, is Dudley starting in place of Carter.
 

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I still don't think Gortat starting will make much of a difference. What might, though, is Dudley starting in place of Carter.

Well I think getting off to a better start offensively, on the boards and defensively should make a difference. Meaning both should have impact given time to gel together. It's probably too late for that. This could have made a difference in few games here or there over the course of a month or so. This will probably have minimal impact with only 11 games left.
 
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To all the idiots that said starting Gortat doesn't matter even when BC told you guys how it would get Gortat more rest;

JD has played well for a stretch of games and we’ll stick him out there and see if that gets us off to a better start and see if we can finish quarters,” Gentry said. “Marsh has been playing starter minutes anyway. If you look at it the way we look at it, this way he can probably get more rest between long stretches than when we playing him off the bench. Because when we play him off the bench, he’s basically playing the last 17-18 minutes of the first and second quarters.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/123540

Our little Alvin Gentry is finally growing up and making the right decisions! (tears)
 

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To all the idiots that said starting Gortat doesn't matter even when BC told you guys how it would get Gortat more rest;

JD has played well for a stretch of games and we’ll stick him out there and see if that gets us off to a better start and see if we can finish quarters,” Gentry said. “Marsh has been playing starter minutes anyway. If you look at it the way we look at it, this way he can probably get more rest between long stretches than when we playing him off the bench. Because when we play him off the bench, he’s basically playing the last 17-18 minutes of the first and second quarters.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/123540

Our little Alvin Gentry is finally growing up and making the right decisions! (tears)

Is it necessary for you to call people names -- since I must be one of the "idiots" you so eloquently addressed this post to.

I hope he makes a difference, but I don't think we will. In fact, I say our bench production will be near the worst of the season tonight.
 

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Gentry just keeps making more and more sense :), if he keeps talking like this, I think I might want him back. :D
 

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To all the idiots that said starting Gortat doesn't matter even when BC told you guys how it would get Gortat more rest;

JD has played well for a stretch of games and we’ll stick him out there and see if that gets us off to a better start and see if we can finish quarters,” Gentry said. “Marsh has been playing starter minutes anyway. If you look at it the way we look at it, this way he can probably get more rest between long stretches than when we playing him off the bench. Because when we play him off the bench, he’s basically playing the last 17-18 minutes of the first and second quarters.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/123540

Our little Alvin Gentry is finally growing up and making the right decisions! (tears)

First off, you don't get bonus points for treating other people poorly so give it a rest (please). Secondly, search these boards and find all those people who said it "doesn't matter" - you won't find many, if any. What we've said, repeatedly, is that we don't think it would have made much of a difference.

I think, as time has gone by, that the potential for it to matter has increased because Gortat has become an even better player but it doesn't solve our biggest problem. Also, if you look closely you'll find that most of us either wanted Gortat to start or were at least unconcerned by the possibility.

Steve
 
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Gentry just keeps making more and more sense :), if he keeps talking like this, I think I might want him back. :D
He knows his job is on the line that's why he's going away from has two favorite ball boys, Carter and Lopez.
 

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Locked and loaded. :D
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To all the idiots that said starting Gortat doesn't matter even when BC told you guys how it would get Gortat more rest.
Thanks for the compliment, sunsfan, but I've posted that I don't like to see anyone called names for having different opinions.

Attack problems, not people, man!

I'm certainly not an NBA coach. If I observed that 18 straight minutes each half was going to take its toll on Gortat some time ago, and now Gentry realizes it, just how good a coach is he if it takes him that long to take action?

That's why I think he has reached his limitation as a Head Coach. 'Too indecisive!
 

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His job is not on the line.

I agree...it's not. After this season though? He should at the very least be "under review" by the front office. If his judgment continues to be a problem, next year he should be fired...IMO.

If this team trades away Nash and blows it up, I also want to see him gone.
 

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I agree...it's not. After this season though? He should at the very least be "under review" by the front office. If his judgment continues to be a problem, next year he should be fired...IMO.
I would hope that review would be before the next training camp, rather than during the season. That makes for a wasted year.

We've already had too many changes during this season, between the Front Office and by the coaching staff.
 
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I would hope that review would be before the next training camp, rather than during the season. That makes for a wasted year.

We've already had too many changes during this season, between the Front Office and by the coaching staff.
Suns are always too late. Waited too long to trade Hedo away...waited too long to realize Clark was a bust...waited too long to trade Dragic away....and their gonna wait too long to start rebuilding.
 

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Suns are always too late. Waited too long to trade Hedo away...waited too long to realize Clark was a bust...waited too long to trade Dragic away....and their gonna wait too long to start rebuilding.

Eh they never gave Clark a chance. When you draft him in the lottery you are supposed to give him some playing time to see what he can do, to develop him as a player and gave him confidence.

Instead the Suns only once played him more than 21 minutes. and only 3 times more than 20 minutes and overloaded his position instead of fixing other holes in the roster.

That is mis-managemend
 

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Eh they never gave Clark a chance. When you draft him in the lottery you are supposed to give him some playing time to see what he can do, to develop him as a player and gave him confidence.

Instead the Suns only once played him more than 21 minutes. and only 3 times more than 20 minutes and overloaded his position instead of fixing other holes in the roster.

That is mis-managemend

As has been proven by his lack of production even when given mins in Orlando, Clark sucks. He will always be one of those guys that shows flashes of talent and alot of potential with little production.

The only reason you like him is because he's young.
 

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Suns are always too late. Waited too long to trade Hedo away...waited too long to realize Clark was a bust...waited too long to trade Dragic away....and their gonna wait too long to start rebuilding.

I must've missed the large amount of teams beating down our door for him.
 

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As has been proven by his lack of production even when given mins in Orlando, Clark sucks. He will always be one of those guys that shows flashes of talent and alot of potential with little production.

The only reason you like him is because he's young.

Eh he has produced decent numbers whenever he played for Orlando.

Allow him to play consistenly and I am sure he would develop into a decent enough player fast.
 

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Eh he has produced decent numbers whenever he played for Orlando.

Which you'll notice has already stopped happening.

Allow him to play consistenly and I am sure he would develop into a decent enough player fast.[/QUOTE]

That's absurd. The only mistake the Suns made with Clark was drafting him in the first place. Since then, they've done all they could.
 
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Earl Clark stats against NY today:

In 17 minutes: 1-3 shooting, -16 plus/minus ratio (worst on the whole ORL team), 6 PFs (fouled out in just 17 minutes) and a block.
 

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Eh he has produced decent numbers whenever he played for Orlando.

Allow him to play consistenly and I am sure he would develop into a decent enough player fast.

Come on slinslin. First Lopez is better than Gortat. Earl Clark is now a "producer" and JRich wouldn't have made a difference to the Suns even though their biggest hole is SG.

You are on a roll brother. You seriously are a horrible evaluator of talent or you just are really loyal to some terrible players and hate JRich.

I don't know which is true.
 
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