Gortat To SA?

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Source: Spurs-Suns deal 4 Gortat would either be n a Splitter sign-and-trade or Diaw/filler. Suns get at least a 2014 1st rounder either way
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Jordan Schultz ‏@Schultz_Report 1 Jul New NBA info: Source tells me that the #Spurs are in serious negotiations with #Suns to acquire Marcin Gortat...


Could McDonough be trying to get Splitter who just signed an extension with SA?
 
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This deal was rumored Monday before Splitter signed his extension so it may not happen unless PHX is after Diaw.

The 1st rounder in the deal would be crap unless Timmy or Parker go down for the year.

Frankly, I thought SA overpaid for Splitter but it actually may come to pass that PHX overpaid Splitter.
 

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When was this tweeted? I think it's old.
 

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I really doubt they have interest (anymore) but man would I hate to see Gortat go to San Antonio. I still believe that Marcin has top level talent and if there is one coach who could bring it out of him it's Pop.

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I really doubt they have interest (anymore) but man would I hate to see Gortat go to San Antonio. I still believe that Marcin has top level talent and if there is one coach who could bring it out of him it's Pop.

Steve

Agree, in the SA system he would thrive. Popovich maximizes player talent. Actually I think Gortat would thrive with most any good team which does not demand he dominate inside.
 

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N.O. just traded Lopez to Portland. They are in need of a center now. Perhaps they may have interest in Gortat? Hmmmm
 

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N.O. just traded Lopez to Portland. They are in need of a center now. Perhaps they may have interest in Gortat? Hmmmm

I'm too lazy to look, was it Portland that Lopez had such a great game against that last year Stat was here? I can't remember if it was Denver or Portland, but it was one of the few nights where Robin really played like a star.

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Agree, in the SA system he would thrive. Popovich maximizes player talent. Actually I think Gortat would thrive with most any good team which does not demand he dominate inside.

I really think letting Beasley and Brown disrupt the team's offense had a lot to do with Gortat playing so poorly so I really think he'd still be good for us if we decided to actually play basketball. But, a coach such as Pop (or even Sloan) would turn Gortat into an even better player.

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I really think letting Beasley and Brown disrupt the team's offense had a lot to do with Gortat playing so poorly so I really think he'd still be good for us if we decided to actually play basketball. But, a coach such as Pop (or even Sloan) would turn Gortat into an even better player.

Steve

I would have been wanting to keep Gortat if he signed an extension. It would have been nice him playing in front of Len. Now, I just do not want to lose him for nothing although he does have value as an expiring contract. However, his value is more than that.

It's amazing how big men retain their value like Robin Lopez. If Len remains healthy, it is likely teams will be clamoring for him years from now even if he does not live up to expectations.
 

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Please no to splitter at 9mill. Gortat is still better than splitter atm.
But if we could unload Beasley or the Morris boys I'd be all for it.
 

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This is old and/or totally inaccurate. No way we are taking back Splitter at $9 million per season.

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Please no to splitter at 9mill. Gortat is still better than splitter atm.
But if we could unload Beasley or the Morris boys I'd be all for it.

This is a great idea. Any Gortat trade should definitely include Beasley.
 

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This is a great idea. Any Gortat trade should definitely include Beasley.

At the moment Beasley has no on-court value, and is owed $6 million this year plus whatever his buyout is for 2014-15. So you're asking someone to pay upwards of $15 million to have Gortat for one year, which is pretty unrealistic.
 

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Great post from BOTS on Gortat Trade Options:
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...ptions-for-marcin-gortat-trades-are-dwindling

The most likely teams willing to trade:

Cleveland Cavaliers

The Cavs don't have a great option at center. They have played with Sideshow Bob (Andersen Varejao) at center for years, but that doesn't add wins and they really want to win next season. Their best pure center is second-year player Tyler Zeller, who isn't ready to play big minutes on a playoff caliber team.

Assets: the Cavs have a lot of young assets - Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, Tyler Zeller. With the recent acquisitions of Anthony Bennett and Earl Clark, along with Sideshow Bob's best position being PF, it's quite possible they would consider parting with Tristan Thompson for Marcin Gortat.

Minnesota Timberwolves

If the Cavs or someone else decide to go with signing Nikola Pekovic to a big offer, then the Wolves need a center.

Assets: The sad thing about the Wolves is that their only real, young assets are guards and Derrick Williams. They just drafted Shabazz Muhammad to go along with Rubio and Shved, and just signed two veteran shooters (Chase Budinger, Kevin Martin). There's just nothing worth sending back to the Suns here.

New Orleans Pelicans

The Pelicans just traded their 2012-13 center for a bag of beans, and they weren't even magic beans. Pinto, I think. They definitely need a center.

Assets: the ever-available Eric Gordon is a luxury now in that expensive back court. Guard Austin Rivers is the only other kid with potential that NOLA would be looking to move. Their team is still very shallow, with no bench and no cap room to make one. NOLA could try to trade Gordon to the Suns in a many-to-one transaction to fill out their bench. Also, there are no first-round picks to trade until 2016 at earliest. The Pelicans just sent their 2014 pick to Philly.

Oklahoma City Thunder

Now here's an interesting option. The Thunder are stuck with Kendrick Perkins ($19 million over 2 years) and really need an upgrade to go all the way.

Assets: Serge Ibaka, Jeremy Lamb, Perry Jones and lots of first round picks. Yet, the Thunder suddenly really need Lamb to pan out for them, unless they sign one of the few remaining shooters on the market. The roster is totally top-heavy, but the Thunder will have to make a decision on how hard they want to go to the Finals. Adding the expiring Gortat while shedding Perkins' contract might just entice the Thunder to give up some future assets to get it done. The Thunder currently have their own 2014 first-round pick and the Mavericks' top-20 protected pick, plus their own 2015 and 2016 picks.

I'd go with Gortat for Thompson, Waiters, Draft pick, filler. We really need to get rid of Gortat, but there's not that many options.
 

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They just better not get more expiring veterens in return which would solve nothing. The only players who should see the floor this year are the young guys.
 

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I know right. You may be able to do Gortat for Thompson (who pulled down 9 boards a game last year) if you throw in another asset like Marshall or a Morris, but to think they'd give us Waiters AND a pick is kind cray.
 

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I know right. You may be able to do Gortat for Thompson (who pulled down 9 boards a game last year) if you throw in another asset like Marshall or a Morris, but to think they'd give us Waiters AND a pick is kind cray.

Marshall and either Morris are not assets. They are liabilities.
 

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Marshall and either Morris are not assets. They are liabilities.

I think Markieff Morris is an asset, although a minor one. The Suns keep trying to make him an inside player, which is to his disadvantage, but as long as he can be a poor man's Donyell Marshall, he's okay.
 

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Marshall and either Morris are not assets. They are liabilities.

It's the way I look at it. Marshall and the Morris twins are team options after this coming season so they can be considered expiring contracts or filler in a trade.

Thanks Lance Blanks.
 

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Marshall and either Morris are not assets. They are liabilities.

They are assets, not huge assets, but assets. They are still on rookie deals and all the control is in the hands of the team. As long as a team is not trying to clear space to sign someone, they are worth while.

Take a team that needs a back up at either spot. They are useful. Marshall actually looked decent with extended minutes. Its enough for a team to want to take a look.
 

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They are assets, not huge assets, but assets. They are still on rookie deals and all the control is in the hands of the team. As long as a team is not trying to clear space to sign someone, they are worth while.

Take a team that needs a back up at either spot. They are useful. Marshall actually looked decent with extended minutes. Its enough for a team to want to take a look.

I don't think they have much value but I certainly wouldn't call them liabilities. I don't think any of them will ever be stars but I don't think any of them have peaked yet either.

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Wonder what it would take to get Klay Thompson from GS now that they have signed Iggy?

Gortat and a Morris, Marshall, Frye, etc. They could use a healthy center.

That team is competing right now. They need to tweak a little.
 

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