Grant Hill has decided to re-sign, Suns will also sign free agent Channing Frye

[joshstmarie]

It sounds to me like Clark plays a Larry Nance type of game. That would be a great fit on this roster.

this is exactly what i was talking about in my previous post. youll be the first one to **** all over clark when he comes out of the gates like julian wright.

 

[JCSunsfan]

this is exactly what i was talking about in my previous post. youll be the first one to **** all over clark when he comes out of the gates like julian wright.

Good grief, settle down. Pardon me for saying something positive about our rookie. He's a rookie and I am talking about style of play, not level of play.

 

[nashman]

Wastedfate

I keep hearing reports than Chandler is essentially a shell of his former self, and Hilton Armstrong is about to take over his starting C spot. So maybe it's time to start looking elsewhere.

I don't mind extending Nash, keeping Amare, and letting Hill return. This is a team that almost went to the playoffs last year despite a horrible system change, Amare getting injured, etc.

If the other option is to let Amare go for GS's junk, I'd rather just re-tool a bit and try to make a run in the playoffs. I'd almost suggest completely ignoring last year. That season was a complete mess. Let everyone come back healthy under a familiar system and see what happens.

At this point I agree 100%, and people need to realize this is NOT the same team as last year, without Shaq they will be running more hopefully everyone stays healthy and we give Gentry a fair chance from the get go!

 

[nashman]

On a positive note we have the best bench I can remember in along time, young, defensive, scoring, hustle, just a solid bench!

 

[SunsTzu]

I see value no matter what direction they take. They just need to take it. This franchise is dragging their knuckles like cavemen.

There is no need to hurry imo. Suns have until the trade deadline basically to decide what they want to do. Also in another 6 weeks they can be packaged in a larger deal.

 

[ReddBird]

At this point I agree 100%, and people need to realize this is NOT the same team as last year, without Shaq they will be running more hopefully everyone stays healthy and we give Gentry a fair chance from the get go!

Exactly right, nashman. Personally, I think Nash is worth the price tag and I'm glad that Hill is staying. Despite the lack of love from my fellow inmates, I think the Suns can make a great run this year.

 

[dodie53]

maybe 8mil for 3yrs is better no?

 

[WildBB]

Wastedfate


At this point I agree 100%, and people need to realize this is NOT the same team as last year, without Shaq they will be running more hopefully everyone stays healthy and we give Gentry a fair chance from the get go!

I'm glad they're discarding the plodding throw it down low to Shaq tedium. Now if we can find someone to drain those three's consistently like Richardson and JJ used to do.

I'm happy they're extending the two time Suns' MVP even though he's older. He belongs here. (39 is the new 31).

 

[overseascardfan]

Is Gooden still available, because I think he would be a good addition, provides rebounding and some scoring. If Sarver wants to pocket the Wallace and Pavlovich money, fine but he better bring in a couple of bargain FA's like Wilcox and Gooden.

I could live with a lineup of:

C - Wilcox / Frye / Lopez
PF - Stoudemire / Gooden / Amundson
SF - Hill / Dudley / Clark
SG - Richardson / Barbosa
PG - Nash / Dragic

 

[krazyasiankid]

and what ever the heck Lopez is.

.. Lopez's hair distracts the opposing centers, so Amare can dunk in their face. Well done Kerr and Sarver. We used our #15 pick for a walking bad hair day.

 

[jagu]

Yea JRich played well even as a 3rd option on this team.

 

[Yuma]

Is Gooden still available, because I think he would be a good addition, provides rebounding and some scoring. If Sarver wants to pocket the Wallace and Pavlovich money, fine but he better bring in a couple of bargain FA's like Wilcox and Gooden.

I could live with a lineup of:

C - Wilcox / Frye / Lopez
PF - Stoudemire / Gooden / Amundson
SF - Hill / Dudley / Clark
SG - Richardson / Barbosa
PG - Nash / Dragic

I would pass out if Gooden was signed by Phoenix. No way are they spending ANY money unless they KNEW they wanted to get rid of Amare and Gooden was their replacement player for Amare. I know Wilcox isn't a world beater, but he's better than a sharp stick to the eye! I just don't see the Suns opening up the check book unless they can convince a guy to take a one year deal and CHEAP!

 

[cly2tw]

I would pass out if Gooden was signed by Phoenix. No way are they spending ANY money unless they KNEW they wanted to get rid of Amare and Gooden was their replacement player for Amare. I know Wilcox isn't a world beater, but he's better than a sharp stick to the eye! I just don't see the Suns opening up the check book unless they can convince a guy to take a one year deal and CHEAP!

Gooden at #5, Wilcox at #8, Jefferies at #10 have best chance now to replace the #9 pick of the same year to be the starting PF on the Suns. That'd be hilarious.

 

[Joe Mama]

I've got news for some people. The offense was not the problem last year. Nash might not have always been happy with it, but once Gentry took over that might have been the best offense the Phoenix Suns have had... even when Amare Stoudemire was injured. The problem was the defense, and I'm having trouble seeing how this defense is going to be any better than last year's. Even if the defense is a little bit better without Shaquille O'Neal defending the pick and roll they are definitely going to be worse on the boards.

That said, 2 years at $10 million per is the deal for Steve Nash. Not only is he one of the best offensive point guards in the NBA, but he's also possibly the best shooter in the league. The problem is that they need good interior defense to cover, and the Phoenix Suns' is sorely lacking.

I do like the Grant Hill re-signing. I just don't see a downside to it.

If Clark gets any decent playing time this year it will be at the 4 as a backup. That's where they will need him the most, and he's an extremely long player. His standing reach is 1" greater than Amare Stoudemire's. Most likely he's already a better defensive player as well.

Joe

 

[Changethegame]

I'm glad G. Hill is back! This is a good sign for Phoenix next season.

 

[Yuma]

Joe, the downside to the Hill signing is health and age. Can we get two more years out of him, like last season, when he played all the games for the first time ever? I cross my fingers with all the charges he takes.

 

[carey]

Joe, the downside to the Hill signing is health and age. Can we get two more years out of him, like last season, when he played all the games for the first time ever? I cross my fingers with all the charges he takes.

The second year is a player option, and if he takes a beating this season I don't see him exercising it at all.

 

[Yuma]

The second year is a player option, and if he takes a beating this season I don't see him exercising it at all.

Good point. He doesn't seem like the type of person to stick us with a year just to get paid.

 

[mojorizen7]

I've read where some of you think that this current SUNS roster will win 50 games and wind up with a 4,5 seed(health permitted).
I'm sorry but there is NO WAY this squad wins 50 games.
Basically we got a year older and even worse defensively.
Teams are gonna light the SUNS up for 120ppg next year. Horrible offseason in the name of flexability. I can't wait to hear the excuses for not blowing this thing up next year too....yeah, thank goodness the NFL is getting revved up. As a RAMS fan i may not see many victories next year but at least they had the sense to blow it up and rebuild,cut ties with their aging vets from the glory years and move TF on.
This franchise has become a joke.

Pass the kool-aid, i'm thirsty.

 

[cly2tw]

I've read where some of you think that this current SUNS roster will win 50 games and wind up with a 4,5 seed(health permitted).
I'm sorry but there is NO WAY this squad wins 50 games.
Basically we got a year older and even worse defensively.
Teams are gonna light the SUNS up for 120ppg next year. Horrible offseason in the name of flexability. I can't wait to hear the excuses for not blowing this thing up next year too....yeah, thank goodness the NFL is getting revved up. As a RAMS fan i may not see many victories next year but at least they had the sense to blow it up and rebuild,cut ties with their aging vets from the glory years and move TF on.
This franchise has become a joke.

Pass the kool-aid, i'm thirsty.

And, I really don't care whether they win 40 or 50 games, if the best they could hope for is one and done. Nash holds the key if he is back. We need him to play a lot more off the ball to give others on the team more experience to handle the ball, in preparation both for the post season and the future.

 

[Chaplin]

I've read where some of you think that this current SUNS roster will win 50 games and wind up with a 4,5 seed(health permitted).
I'm sorry but there is NO WAY this squad wins 50 games.
Basically we got a year older and even worse defensively.
Teams are gonna light the SUNS up for 120ppg next year. Horrible offseason in the name of flexability. I can't wait to hear the excuses for not blowing this thing up next year too....yeah, thank goodness the NFL is getting revved up. As a RAMS fan i may not see many victories next year but at least they had the sense to blow it up and rebuild,cut ties with their aging vets from the glory years and move TF on.
This franchise has become a joke.

Pass the kool-aid, i'm thirsty.

I think you're way off base with your hatred.

This team wasn't horrible after Gentry took over. Everyone forgets that Amare was out for all but one game while Gentry was coach. LB was out for a while too.

I think the problem is that people look at how our year ended and automatically think that's how we will be come October. That just isn't the case. Will we be better? Nobody really knows, but with a healthy Amare and Alvin Gentry at the helm, I would think the odds aren't that awful.

It was such and up and down year last year, everyone expected the team to just automatically become one of the elite after Porter left, but I think the problem was that it took Steve Nash too much time to get his mindset back of what he is comfortable with.

Defensively, we won't be that good, but we've NEVER been that great defensively, even when we were a top 3 team in the league a few years ago. Will age catch up to us? That's certainly a possibility, but Grant Hill had his first full year as an NBA player last season--I don't see why he can't approach that again this coming year.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think you're way off base with your hatred.

This team wasn't horrible after Gentry took over. Everyone forgets that Amare was out for all but one game while Gentry was coach. LB was out for a while too.

I think the problem is that people look at how our year ended and automatically think that's how we will be come October. That just isn't the case. Will we be better? Nobody really knows, but with a healthy Amare and Alvin Gentry at the helm, I would think the odds aren't that awful.

It was such and up and down year last year, everyone expected the team to just automatically become one of the elite after Porter left, but I think the problem was that it took Steve Nash too much time to get his mindset back of what he is comfortable with.

Defensively, we won't be that good, but we've NEVER been that great defensively, even when we were a top 3 team in the league a few years ago. Will age catch up to us? That's certainly a possibility, but Grant Hill had his first full year as an NBA player last season--I don't see why he can't approach that again this coming year.

chap, i appreciate your optimism, but truth of the matter is that gentry's record was fairly similar to porter's, we get amare back (but unsure at what level) but lose shaq. lose barnes. nash and hill older. add a frye. and try to implement a system of a former coach with the dude's assistant (not even the "genius" that came up with the system). we're a much worse version of earlier versions of SSOL. and the west is getting better. i don't see us leapfrogging a portland team that's getting better. we are not in denver, LA, SA class. we won't leapfrog the mavs, especially if they add marion. i don't see us getting past the jazz if they're healthy for a season. we could pass houston, i'll give you that. and new orleans is a crapshoot. at best we could climb to 6 seed, but with our age and the injuries that constantly bug this team, another lotto season is more likely. i'd be pleasantly surprised to see us eke in the playoffs, but man, i don't see the youth, talent, defense, or unique system to get us there.

 

[mojorizen7]

I think you're way off base with your hatred.

This team wasn't horrible after Gentry took over. Everyone forgets that Amare was out for all but one game while Gentry was coach. LB was out for a while too.

I think the problem is that people look at how our year ended and automatically think that's how we will be come October. That just isn't the case. Will we be better? Nobody really knows, but with a healthy Amare and Alvin Gentry at the helm, I would think the odds aren't that awful.

It was such and up and down year last year, everyone expected the team to just automatically become one of the elite after Porter left, but I think the problem was that it took Steve Nash too much time to get his mindset back of what he is comfortable with.

Defensively, we won't be that good, but we've NEVER been that great defensively, even when we were a top 3 team in the league a few years ago. Will age catch up to us? That's certainly a possibility, but Grant Hill had his first full year as an NBA player last season--I don't see why he can't approach that again this coming year.

Let me clarify,I think we'll be pretty good at scoring points Chap,health permitting.
I've got plenty of adjectives to describe just how bad this lineup is going to be on the defensive end and the boards.....horrid is a good word.
Again,we've only got one defensively capable guy among our starting 5.....and only one off the bench......and they're both SF's.
Who's going to rebound?

 

[elindholm]

The Suns finished 3 games behind #7 New Orleans, 2 games behind #8 Utah, and 17 games ahead of #10 Golden State. They should be able to overtake Houston (who is without their three best players from last season), and New Orleans should be within reach too. They really don't have to fear anyone from behind, not yet.

That puts them 7th or 8th. I think overtaking Utah is unlikely, but it depends on how the Jazz's PF situation shakes out. The only way to catch Dallas is if the Mavericks' chemistry implodes. The Lakers, Spurs, Nuggets, and Blazers are out of reach.

 

[Rab]

Channing Frye dunked on me in a summer league game when we were in high school. Grrrr. Don't know why I even tried to get in the way at all.

Great to have Grant Hill back IMO. This is where he said he wanted to be though he had a chance to move on and compete for a title. Class act, great professional.

Hopefully, he'll have similar luck next season health wise.