Harbaugh brang to the Niners what I expected from rookie HC Whisenhunt, how about you? The smart-tough- disciplined Cardinals football team advertised has passed more than any team in history, more 3 and outs, more pressure on the Oline- defense and special teams.
Kurt Warner welcomed the Blitz and outperformed opponents to a 9-7 record in 2008, reinsert edge and a run threat and rolled to the SB, abandoned the run and lost a close SB. passing like our hair was on fire, same with GB 09 playoff win, run the ball to a 3 score lead and than pass pas pass pass pass pass. We were demoralized in a Saints playoff loss the next week, folded with 6 minutes left in the 3rd 1/4. WE HAVE NOT RECOVERED AS OF TODAY! There are few Kurts available in history much less free agency.... get a gripp.
Sounds negative but the blueprint to win the NFCW are playing today, The Blueprint to win the NFC and the Super Bowl - It is not rocket science or brain surgery, I've been screaming it at the top of my lungs win lose or draw and taking flames for it. We had more talent and wasted our window of oppurtunity, we are rebuilding now, we are still more talented on my grades than the Niners, But we are coached stupider- if that is a word.
Graves needs be Cardinal strong and supervise this team- all of it- his weaknessess are glaring in the NFCW. The NFCW has been bad for a decade and all the teams have accumulated top more draft picks each year they accumulated losses, much of this talent is now veteran. the Cardinals are falling but these are 2 high draft picks in a row.
We need to to FEED the 22 year old BEAN, invest in our defense and follow the blueprint Whiz brang to AZ. Fitz will have plenty of spectacular and HOF credentials from a more balanced offense that doesn't stress the rst of the team every drive and turnover. The run game is simply safer most of the time. Seems like Beanies 4 career lost fumbles out weigh 23 int's this year? Thats is not football intelligence that is football stupidity.
We are getting better, But our staff shoots the Cardinals in the foot, Harbaugh has them Niners great at fewer plays and fundementals. He does not ask his players to do things they can not succeed at, He stabalizes what they do well. We ask our oline, QB, Defense to do things no other team would ask from these units, I expect more of the same.....
And that is on the GM><
http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...The-West/a93bffab-7235-4c0d-87f6-3fdc0ced9bed
One interesting development within the West: The 49ers have flourished in their resurgence because of their defense. Both the Cards and Seahawks battled back toward .500 after poor starts riding mostly their defense. And Fisher’s background – and history as coach of Tennessee – is with a defense-first philosophy.
In this era of offensive fireworks, the NFC West could be morphing into more of a physical, rough-and-tumble division.
“Our brethren in the NFC West have become stronger,” Cardinals general manager Rod Graves said. “But I feel we proved last season, especially over the last nine games that we can play with any team in the league. If we focus on our strengths and the things we do well, we will take care of business in the NFC West.”
I like your posts dude--because they're different, because you obviously have a strong opinion (you don't flip-flop like most people and that deserves some respect) and generally because I think everyone deserves to be treated with some modicum of respect.
Having said that:
I don't mind the term "brang" like others do, but it really does belong more in the Urban Dictionary than in a normal one. However, everyone here has some issues with literacy, myself included.
When you compare Whisenhunt to Harbaugh, that's fair. But Harbaugh didn't get to the SB. Whis has. Granted, not in his first year, but the point is valid. The 49ers have a long history of greatness, of great players, great coaches, great front office and management. The Cardinals, not so much. Whisenhunt is working with the deck against him, Harbaugh has all the support one could hope for--including, frankly, just a very good team, which he inherited. He didn't build that team. Whisenhunt took us to a SB and didn't build his either, but he got us there. Harbaugh has not. Regular season records mean squat if we're talking about greatness and so I give Whis a +1 over Jim on this.
Agree with your second point: we had a HOF QB who--nobody can deny this--guided us to a SB. I'm not sure what your point is, as SF hasn't gotten there and didn't get there last year. It's like saying our 2009-10 season was phenomenal because we beat GB even though we lost to the Saints in the playoffs (comparing it to SF this past year). Nobody says that. It was a disappointment (for them and us, I'm sure). You can't just subtract the QB: like saying without Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Joe Montana, etc etc and on and on, without those QB's they wouldn't have won. No, they probably wouldn't have, but they were there. And Warner was here. It's just the way it is.
We didn't waste our opportunity, but I guess it depends on how you look at it. We got to the SB and lost in the final seconds. What can you do? You blame Whisenhunt for those last 30 seconds? Blame players? It happens. The next year we lost to the SB Champion Saints, who demolished us. Again, it happens. I don't know how you say we wasted those opportunities. We were in position, and prior to that we weren't even on the map, weren't even on the radar, so Whisenhunt had to start from the ground up and teach this team and organization how to win. I would say they maximized opportunities. Was it disappointing, sure. But so were all the 4-12 teams for a decade prior to that.
We differ on the next point, because you hate Graves and I think he's done a fine job. In tandem he and Whisenhunt, in my opinion, have done excellent. I wouldn't give credit solely to one or the other, but I think together they work well together.
And I can't even discuss Beanie with you. When you start comparing him to Jim Brown--the time continuum in the universe ceases to flow normally. Jim Brown didn't miss a game in 8 years man. 8 years. Never even laid out on a field for that matter. I can't even discuss this logically with you, because for you this isn't logical.
Regarding your final point, about Harbaugh again--it has nothing to do with Graves, as much as you want to blame him for our system. That's all Whisenhunt. Some coaches use a system, others mold the schemes to the players, and others use a mix. Whisenhunt has said repeatedly he has a system, doesn't really matter who plays in it--even if they don't think they fit, they try to coach them up. That may not sit well with you, or others, but I can assure you it didn't sit well with Cowboy players either when Tom Landry did it or GB players when Lombardi did it. It is what it is, and it takes time to master.
I find it amazing you infer that Harbaugh is a better coach than Whisenhunt. He's done a fine job, in his first year, no doubt about that. But to compare them isn't comparing an even playing field, first of all. Whisenhunt came to revive a dead-end, loser franchise. Harbaugh came to revive a storied franchise. Further, and some of you may argue with this, but Harbaugh is working with more talent than Whis, from top to bottom, all the way down to players. Yet we still beat them last time we played them. If we're merely comparing coaches, I'll take Whisenhunt over a guy with 1 season of head coaching in his NFL career. I always say, first year for a head coach is always the easiest, guys are playing their guts out, because not only are they enthusiastic, but they don't know who the new coach will cut the next year. Let's see how he does after a couple years, when things are
hard. Whisenhunt knows about difficulty, I mean look at us.
I'll take Whisenhunt any day.
