Great News! Graves/Parker Update

[DaisyCutter]

They're no longer talking. Per MJ on 910 this morning.

 

[WildBB]

They're no longer talking. Per MJ on 910 this morning.

Meaning , you think they cut a deal?

 

[jefftheshark]

Hey, I know that free agency isn't that far away. I wanted to get this out there now.

I promise that I will not freak out about a lack of action by the Arizona Cardinals w/r/t free agency for the first 8 days.


Hopefully, we as fans can make a committment to be patient with the free agency strategy taken by the front office. I know we were all disappointed by the terribleness of Terrance Holt, but the Cards had more hits (Gandy, Hood) than misses in free agency last season.

So, how long can you wait for action?

Great News! Graves/Parker Update
They're no longer talking. Per MJ on 910 this morning.

I think someone is about to fall off of the pledge wagon.

(unless you really do think this is "Great News!" )

JTS

 

[dreamcastrocks]

meaning, that they don't think that a deal can be reached.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Daisy is slowly but surely coming to light.

 

[WildBB]

meaning, that they don't think that a deal can be reached.

So, what now?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

So, what now?

Now we wait for the draft......

No way Fitz gets cut, so we pay him the 14.6M.

 

[WildBB]

Now we wait for the draft......

No way Fitz gets cut, so we pay him the 14.6M.

Or?

 

[ajcardfan]

Or?

They start talking again at some point. Then, they will either get a deal done or they won't. Either way, I still expect us to make the playoffs.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I think someone is about to fall off of the pledge wagon.

(unless you really do think this is "Great News!" )

JTS

Oh... that wasn't a freak out. But if it's voted that it was, then I'll gladly submit to the punishment of a spanking from Linderbee.

Honestly, I'm getting pretty much what I expected from free agency. Travis LaBoy might be a little better than I hoped, but I haven't really been as frustrated as I expected to be by losing Pace and still not getting Fitz done.

I still think that the Cards believe that they can be competitve by adding players on the margins and hoping that they can stay healthy for 14+ games and get a playoff spot/compete for the division. We've signed two players who are solid depth guys, and LaBoy has some promise/upside.

 

[WildBB]

They start talking again at some point. Then, they will either get a deal done or they won't. Either way, I still expect us to make the playoffs.

Or, let the bidding begin. There's more teams than Philly out there. We don't have to make him happy at this point.

 

[DaisyCutter]

One other thing: I don't really think this is a big deal until it comes out publicly that the Cards have allowed Fitzgerald and Parker to seek a trade. He can't really be moved until he comes to a new contract with someone. Teams can't negotiate with Parker unless the Cards give them permission due to tampering rules.

If that comes out, Fitz is gone. In a lot of ways, we'll be re-starting the process all over again.

 

[WildBB]

One other thing: I don't really think this is a big deal until it comes out publicly that the Cards have allowed Fitzgerald and Parker to seek a trade. He can't really be moved until he comes to a new contract with someone. Teams can't negotiate with Parker unless the Cards give them permission due to tampering rules.

If that comes out, Fitz is gone. In a lot of ways, we'll be re-starting the process all over again.

And since the Cardinals suposedly offered him the 3rd highest contract for non-QB's , and the two sides also proceeded with the premise/compromise that the contract would run 5 yrs, where can other teams improve on that offer? A 4 yr deal? That seems to be the sticking point for this org. If they negotiate a 4 yr. deal next yr. the FO will essentially get the same thing as a 5 yr. this yr.

Question is , will Parker and Fitz play along. I say no they won't. A trade will take place next year. If Fitz is sincere about wanting to play here, he should get this done THIS YEAR.

 

[chicards11]

They're no longer talking. Per MJ on 910 this morning.

im so happy that I bought a authentic Fitzy jersey 2 years ago

 

[earthsci]

Or, let the bidding begin. There's more teams than Philly out there. We don't have to make him happy at this point.

Absolutely. It's business. The Cardinals have to do what is best for them just as LF does for himself.

That said, we really need to press to get this done (the contract). We know that LF is a great NFL player. The draft is a gamble.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Or, let the bidding begin. There's more teams than Philly out there. We don't have to make him happy at this point.

The bidding won't begin until next year. There's nothing to bid against when Fitz isn't available. That's like trying to bid for Peyton Manning right now. Pointless when he isn't available.

 

[earthsci]

The bidding won't begin until next year. There's nothing to bid against when Fitz isn't available. That's like trying to bid for Peyton Manning right now. Pointless when he isn't available.

I would say that Fitz isn't available just like Shawn Marion wasn't available prior to the Shaq trade. If someone calls with a "knock your socks off" offer, we will listen.

 

[WildBB]

Absolutely. It's business. The Cardinals have to do what is best for them just as LF does for himself.

That said, we really need to press to get this done (the contract). We know that LF is a great NFL player. The draft is a gamble.

And any contract needs to get done now! He's got them between a rock and a hard place and the Cardinals , I guess are refusing to procede on a 4 yr. pact.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I would say that Fitz isn't available just like Shawn Marion wasn't available prior to the Shaq trade. If someone calls with a "knock your socks off" offer, we will listen.

I don't think that this is a good analogy.

 

[WildBB]

The bidding won't begin until next year. There's nothing to bid against when Fitz isn't available. That's like trying to bid for Peyton Manning right now. Pointless when he isn't available.

Oh, he can be traded. Philly will take him outright for Sheppard and a 1st. No negotiation required to make that happen.

 

[Pariah]

The bidding won't begin until next year. There's nothing to bid against when Fitz isn't available. That's like trying to bid for Peyton Manning right now. Pointless when he isn't available.

He doesn't mean FA bidding, he means trade bids.

 

[earthsci]

I don't think that this is a good analogy.

I don't think that the Cards will be as quick to let Fitz go as the Suns were Marion. If that is what you are saying, I can agree. All I'm saying is if Philly calls and says "Sheppard and two 1st round pick for Fitz", or something of that ilk, a trade would be on the table.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I don't think that the Cards will be as quick to let Fitz go as the Suns were Marion. If that is what you are saying, I can agree. All I'm saying is if Philly calls and says "Sheppard and two 1st round pick for Fitz", or something of that ilk, a trade would be on the table.

I don't think that Lito and 2 1sts were ever on the table.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He doesn't mean FA bidding, he means trade bids.

I see that now, makes more sense.

 

[earthsci]

I don't think that Lito and 2 1sts were ever on the table.

I know. I'm just giving an example of a situation where the Cards would consider a trade.