Hardy suspended for 10 games

[Cbus cardsfan]

If you or anyone else can't separate what's being said from thinking it means "she deserves what she got" then you have severe reading comprehension issues.... Never implied stated or hinted that she deserved said beating... To imply or state such on my behalf is frankly moronic!!!

Agreed, and why I quit posting in this thread.

Even though I just posted in this thread .

 

[schutd]

Its really quite simple. To many, Shane calling her a money grabber implies that that was her intent from the beginning of the relationship. And that drastically changes how people feel about Shane's opinion, making it much more inflammatory if thats indeed what the intent is. Thats what people are taking offense to. I don't believe that to be true at this point, though I wish he'd change the way in which he expresses this whole money grab opinion to clear up that misperception. Shane has stated repeatedly that when the chips were down, she chose the money over doing "the right thing." We all have different opinions as to what the right thing would be in that situation. I don't think its right for any of us to pass judgement on what that is, as none of us have actually been in that situation. People want to know if Hardy was a regular guy would she have filed. Who knows? I got nearly run down by a bus once. I literally Wil E Coyoted into the windshield while riding my scooter in Brooklyn. The bus turned left right in front of me. Honestly, as soon as I realized I was OK, my FIRST thought was, I can get some money for this. Hate to admit that, but its true. Funny thing is, I didnt get a dome. I got sued for 4 million by a woman on the bus who fell down, cut her ankle, got an infection, and had to have skin grafts to fix it, because she wasn't good enough to clean her wounds. I got zero, zip, nada, never even tried to get money from the city. But I thought about it. I digress. The point is, Hardy had cash, and used it to make his legal woes go away. Happens everywhere, all the time, and its despicable. My guess is here is where Shane gets perturbed. People with money get treated differently than those without because they can use the money to bail em out. He wants victims to eschew their chance at some of that money and "do the right thing"; IE see the thing through legally.

The problem here is we don't know WHY she started dating him. Whether money had anything to do with it or not, and I would never suppose to know if thats the case or not. But I can completely empathize with the idea of, this is terrible, I want it over, and I want him to pay for what he did. A check helps her financially, and mentally, as she can walk away and get on with her life. Society sees no benefit from this decision because a POS woman beater gets to have the charges dropped and his record expunged because she chose that path. Society can be disappointed in that, but name calling "money grabber" "Gold digger" doesn't do anything except make the caller feel more superior. The name calling is what needs to stop. Have the opinion, Shane, youre not wrong in it. But the name calling doesnt do anything. Tell us she did the wrong thing, and leave the inflammatory stuff out of it, and we can have a discussion. Start with the name calling, and it muddies the waters, so the forest can no longer be seen through the trees, so to speak.

My personal opinion is, the way we all read and hear about how victims are treated and vilified in situations like these, I completely understand why she would take the cash, and walk away from the legal proceedings. My belief is the laws are set up to protect the accused moreso than the accuser. Theres an entire other argument to be had about that, and why that is the way it is, but I believe that it is. So with that in mind, and being able to see the legal road ahead, I can completely understand why she did what she did. What I wont do is assume that SHE instigated the settlement stuff. But when given the option, decided it was the best course for herself. If she instigated the settlement option IE; pay me and Ill shut up, then we can talk about gold digging.

 

[Southpaw]

 

[daves]

schutd, i agree with your every word. Well put and you have articulated by feelings on this exactly. She is the victim here - SHE alone gets to decide how to cope with the damage that Hardy did to her.

Some people might choose to pursue a chance (no guarantee!) for justice through the criminal courts, while others might decide that accepting a life-changing amount of money, disappearing, and escaping from having the ugly incident continue to dominate her life for the duration of yet another trial is best for them.

People are free to judge and denigrate her for her decision, but considering that the guy had already been violent with her, threatened and began trying to kill her, had a sofa full of guns, and a posse willing to carry out his orders and lie for him, i think it's reasonable to assume that she accepted the settlement not only because she preferred money to a chance at justice, but because she feared for her life if she chose what some people who were not in her shoes consider the "right" course.

...dbs

 

[cardncubfan]

Its really quite simple. To many, Shane calling her a money grabber implies that that was her intent from the beginning of the relationship. And that drastically changes how people feel about Shane's opinion, making it much more inflammatory if thats indeed what the intent is. Thats what people are taking offense to. I don't believe that to be true at this point, though I wish he'd change the way in which he expresses this whole money grab opinion to clear up that misperception. Shane has stated repeatedly that when the chips were down, she chose the money over doing "the right thing." We all have different opinions as to what the right thing would be in that situation. I don't think its right for any of us to pass judgement on what that is, as none of us have actually been in that situation. People want to know if Hardy was a regular guy would she have filed. Who knows? I got nearly run down by a bus once. I literally Wil E Coyoted into the windshield while riding my scooter in Brooklyn. The bus turned left right in front of me. Honestly, as soon as I realized I was OK, my FIRST thought was, I can get some money for this. Hate to admit that, but its true. Funny thing is, I didnt get a dome. I got sued for 4 million by a woman on the bus who fell down, cut her ankle, got an infection, and had to have skin grafts to fix it, because she wasn't good enough to clean her wounds. I got zero, zip, nada, never even tried to get money from the city. But I thought about it. I digress. The point is, Hardy had cash, and used it to make his legal woes go away. Happens everywhere, all the time, and its despicable. My guess is here is where Shane gets perturbed. People with money get treated differently than those without because they can use the money to bail em out. He wants victims to eschew their chance at some of that money and "do the right thing"; IE see the thing through legally.

The problem here is we don't know WHY she started dating him. Whether money had anything to do with it or not, and I would never suppose to know if thats the case or not. But I can completely empathize with the idea of, this is terrible, I want it over, and I want him to pay for what he did. A check helps her financially, and mentally, as she can walk away and get on with her life. Society sees no benefit from this decision because a POS woman beater gets to have the charges dropped and his record expunged because she chose that path. Society can be disappointed in that, but name calling "money grabber" "Gold digger" doesn't do anything except make the caller feel more superior. The name calling is what needs to stop. Have the opinion, Shane, youre not wrong in it. But the name calling doesnt do anything. Tell us she did the wrong thing, and leave the inflammatory stuff out of it, and we can have a discussion. Start with the name calling, and it muddies the waters, so the forest can no longer be seen through the trees, so to speak.

My personal opinion is, the way we all read and hear about how victims are treated and vilified in situations like these, I completely understand why she would take the cash, and walk away from the legal proceedings. My belief is the laws are set up to protect the accused moreso than the accuser. Theres an entire other argument to be had about that, and why that is the way it is, but I believe that it is. So with that in mind, and being able to see the legal road ahead, I can completely understand why she did what she did. What I wont do is assume that SHE instigated the settlement stuff. But when given the option, decided it was the best course for herself. If she instigated the settlement option IE; pay me and Ill shut up, then we can talk about gold digging.

Great post Schutd & I agree with what you're saying.

 

[Cheesebeef]

schutd, i agree with your every word. Well put and you have articulated by feelings on this exactly. She is the victim here - SHE alone gets to decide how to cope with the damage that Hardy did to her.

Some people might choose to pursue a chance (no guarantee!) for justice through the criminal courts, while others might decide that accepting a life-changing amount of money, disappearing, and escaping from having the ugly incident continue to dominate her life for the duration of yet another trial is best for them.

People are free to judge and denigrate her for her decision, but considering that the guy had already been violent with her, threatened and began trying to kill her, had a sofa full of guns, and a posse willing to carry out his orders and lie for him, i think it's reasonable to assume that she accepted the settlement not only because she preferred money to a chance at justice, but because she feared for her life if she chose what some people who were not in her shoes consider the "right" course.

...dbs

it's about time you said something smart Dave.

 

[Bert]

schutd, i agree with your every word. Well put and you have articulated by feelings on this exactly. She is the victim here - SHE alone gets to decide how to cope with the damage that Hardy did to her.

Some people might choose to pursue a chance (no guarantee!) for justice through the criminal courts, while others might decide that accepting a life-changing amount of money, disappearing, and escaping from having the ugly incident continue to dominate her life for the duration of yet another trial is best for them.

People are free to judge and denigrate her for her decision, but considering that the guy had already been violent with her, threatened and began trying to kill her, had a sofa full of guns, and a posse willing to carry out his orders and lie for him, i think it's reasonable to assume that she accepted the settlement not only because she preferred money to a chance at justice, but because she feared for her life if she chose what some people who were not in her shoes consider the "right" course.

...dbs

Outstanding post!!!!

 

[daves]

it's about time you said something smart Dave.

Thanks... i've been working on it!

...dbs

 

[juza76]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

 

[schutd]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

Im Out!

 

[Cheesebeef]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

yeesh.

 

[Buckybird]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

Wow

Is that you Jones?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Im Out!

Totally?

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[Dr. Jones]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

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[Darkside]

Personal foul, unnecessary roughness, #76 has been ejected from the game.

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I nominate this post for best and highest use of emoticon ever. I laughed out loud.

 

[ajcardfan]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

ssshhhhhh!!!!! you are talking out loud!

 

[HeavyB3]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

Sounds like you have the "she had it coming" mentality. That's sad.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

If you think it's okay for a guy to hit a female then you're the bitch with poor moral values. I seriously hope what you meant to convey was lost in translation.

 

[cardncubfan]

some of u should make a difference between women and *******

i know sometimes there is a thin line and violence cant be tollerate

but i dont feel so sorry about ******* with poor moral values

Machismo is strong in this one. Juza, hopefully you didn't really mean what you posted.

 

[Lorenzo]

This guy is a joke and is a perfect fit for Jerry but a terrible fit for a Jason witten/Jason Garrett team. Have any of you seen what witten thinks about domestic violence??? What about the head coach that talks about drafting and developing the right type of guy?

It makes no sense they don't need his drama they have enough of it already. When dez has to calm the guy down you know you have issues. I'm usually embarrassed to be a Dallas fan but this year takes the cake. They deserve to be where they are and I hope they lose and fire the gm. Won't ever happen though.

 

[GatorAZ]

Now that their season is done and he's still on the roster makes me think Jurrah was serious about wanting to extend him. The Cowboys honestly need to shut down Romo and Dez and go full tank mode.

 

[juza76]

If you think it's okay for a guy to hit a female then you're the bitch with poor moral values. I seriously hope what you meant to convey was lost in translation.

Lost in translation? No
I think is ok hitting a b....? No
I m not that type of man
But when a lady has only 2 goals
Money and celebrity and u choose people with that criteria
Honestly i dont really care about the consequences of her actions

 

[Southpaw]

Lost in translation? No
I think is ok hitting a b....? No
I m not that type of man
But when a lady has only 2 goals
Money and celebrity and u choose people with that criteria
Honestly i dont really care about the consequences of her actions

That hole you are digging yourself into is getting deeper.

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