Hardy suspended for 10 games

[Buckybird]

I used to disagree with Shane on these domestic violence cases, but he's been more accurate than not when it comes to athletes and money grabs. I'm also fairly confident he's seen more DV cases than we have and heard much more from his buddies in uniform.

I'd also like to remind people that Steve McNair went to his fwb house and took a freaking nap before she shot him to death in his sleep.

I'm not defending Hardy, he's a despicable human I'm sure. But she had the option of punishing him for violating her and she took the money instead. That's not in dispute.


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Which still doesn't explain why this clown is playing football in the NFL. This guy has more than 1 incident regardless of her settling the case for $$$ & her silence.

Again, I'd probably 99% of abuse cases never lead in conviction because the woman's scared, still in love or paid off

 

[Russ Smith]

The way this went down it wreaks of a money grab and the refusal to testify in no way shape or form is in the same vein as the instances your citing above in other cases. Which are common. No doubt.

The article says they met and started dating his 2nd year in the NFL. he was a 6th round pick so he wasn't getting millions of dollars a year. The year she started dating him he had 4 sacks and while he was certainly highly regarded in college, she would have had to be pretty damn good to guess then of all the guys on the Panthers he was the one that was going to get rich and give her millions in a few years.

 

[Shane]

The article says they met and started dating his 2nd year in the NFL. he was a 6th round pick so he wasn't getting millions of dollars a year. The year she started dating him he had 4 sacks and while he was certainly highly regarded in college, she would have had to be pretty damn good to guess then of all the guys on the Panthers he was the one that was going to get rich and give her millions in a few years.

She's a woman and he plays in the NFL... From my experience that's all a woman needs to hear to see $$$ signs in their head...

 

[Darkside]

Which still doesn't explain why this clown is playing football in the NFL. This guy has more than 1 incident regardless of her settling the case for $$$ & her silence.

Again, I'd probably 99% of abuse cases never lead in conviction because the woman's scared, still in love or paid off

Agree, I don't think he should be making millions in the NFL, it's ridiculous.

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[ajcardfan]

It seems it almost doesn't matter what evidence of abuse there is. (And, those photos are as graphic as it gets.) Many fans will throw out the "gold digger" slander against the female. This is an example of why I know I would be much more comfortable with 3 sons than 3 females as they go into their teenage years and into their 20s. So many jagoffs like Greg Hardy are out there.

Bashing the victim sucks.

 

[Shane]

It seems it almost doesn't matter what evidence of abuse there is. (And, those photos are as graphic as it gets.) Many fans will throw out the "gold digger" slander against the female. This is an example of why I know I would be much more comfortable with 3 sons than 3 females as they go into their teenage years and into their 20s. So many jagoffs like Greg Hardy are out there.

Bashing the victim sucks.

When the shoe fits you wear it... When you choose money over justice it makes you the epitome of a "gold digger"

Sex is irrelevant could be a story of a big man getting shot by an angered 100 pound rich woman.... But chooses a payoff instead... GOLDDIGGER

 

[BACH]

When the shoe fits you wear it... When you choose money over justice it makes you the epitome of a "gold digger"

Sex is irrelevant could be a story of a big man getting shot by an angered 100 pound rich woman.... But chooses a payoff instead... GOLDDIGGER

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...of-hardy-domestic-violence-incident-published

This should end the discussion

 

[ajcardfan]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...of-hardy-domestic-violence-incident-published

This should end the discussion

It SHOULD, but Shane, and he has a lot of company, has seen those pictures and still calls her a golddigger. Hell, I can't blame her for taking the money and just wanting it to be behind her. She took a beating from Hardy, and another beating from some of the public.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

gold dig·ger
nouninformal
a person who dates others purely to extract money from them, in particular a woman who strives to marry a wealthy man.

Funny, the dictionary says nothing about taking a beating...

 

[Shane]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...of-hardy-domestic-violence-incident-published

This should end the discussion

It SHOULD, but Shane, and he has a lot of company, has seen those pictures and still calls her a golddigger. Hell, I can't blame her for taking the money and just wanting it to be behind her. She took a beating from Hardy, and another beating from some of the public.

She used the beating as a money grab pure and simple. She chose money over any true justice. He gets to go on in his fairytale lifestyle making millions and really doesn't pay for what he did. He is a despicable human being who needed to do actual time even if only 6 months for what he did.

He doesn't deserve to be in an NFL line up IMO. She could have done a lot toward accomplishing that. The guy clearly has an issue and should have a DV conviction on his record. Making it easier to send him away even longer on the next one. And typically there will be a next one.

Can you please elaborate on the beating she took in the public? PRIOR to taking the $$ that is??? Do you have links to such "beatings" either from the media or the public in general? I would sure like to see what kind of "public beating" she took???

Her taking the money IMO rather than seeking true justice for this ass hat is also despicable… Not on the same level as what happened to her but still despicable in its own right.

I get it you guys are all touchy feel and sympathetic to her frail female self and her "mental sensibilities" in relation to some "imaginary beating she took" in the public… Good for you.

Ive seen it too much I've testified on it too much. Quite frankly Im sick and tired of these guys getting off. Whatever the reason. Either it be $ or because the women are scared or they are just downright brainwashed into thinking "it won't happen again he loves me" Its a bitter circle that keep occurring. Its about damn time women actually stand up for themselves and make sure the right thing is done.

DISCLAIMER: None of this means Im saying She deserved what she got(cheesebeef)

 

[Shane]

gold dig·ger
nouninformal
a person who dates others purely to extract money from them, in particular a woman who strives to marry a wealthy man.

Funny, the dictionary says nothing about taking a beating...

Oh well if the dictionary doesn't say what she did is being a gold digger then it must not be true…

 

[schutd]

So youve seen it a lot. Have you ever experienced it? Had the living crap beaten out of you by a supposed loved one, and then had to face not only a long drawn out trial, where no doubt you will be painted a villain by an aggresive defense attorney, and then again, vilified by the people you thought would help protect you, the police who love to share their opinions on your motivations without having any direct personal connection or experience to the situation? Ever experienced that? Ever had to face the prospect of being tried in the court of public opinion? Id take the coin and get the hell out, too. The system is rigged to ensure the victim becomes the vilified in most DV cases. I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

How can you possibly claim to understand a single thing thats going on in the woman's mind? You can't. You can have your opinion, for sure. But sometimes those opinions are better left kept to yourself.

 

[Shane]

So youve seen it a lot. Have you ever experienced it? Had the living crap beaten out of you by a supposed loved one, and then had to face not only a long drawn out trial, where no doubt you will be painted a villain by an aggresive defense attorney, and then again, vilified by the people you thought would help protect you, the police who love to share their opinions on your motivations without having any direct personal connection or experience to the situation? Ever experienced that? Ever had to face the prospect of being tried in the court of public opinion? Id take the coin and get the hell out, too. The system is rigged to ensure the victim becomes the vilified in most DV cases. I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

How can you possibly claim to understand a single thing thats going on in the woman's mind? You can't. You can have your opinion, for sure. But sometimes those opinions are better left kept to yourself.

That would make you just as weak minded as her IMO and in the end willing to take a beating for some coin. Good for you. Oh and FYI I never stated "I know whats going on in her mind" regardless of her motives/reasons she took a money grab thats a fact.

BTW Im perfectly comfortable with my opinions and sharing them thanks though.

Can you explain how the system is "rigged" as you say in YOUR EXPERIENCE to vilify the victim? Do you have instances to prove this? Have you yourself been through it either as a victim or a suspect? Family member maybe?

The more I think about it the more I feel your opinion in this matter is equivalent to "Im ok if these scumbags do this and get away with it" because by agreeing with the money grab thats exactly what your advocating.

 

[jmt]

Sorry Shane, you're wrong on this one. Move to another thread and forget about Hardy.

 

[Cheesebeef]

She used the beating as a money grab pure and simple. She chose money over any true justice. He gets to go on in his fairytale lifestyle making millions and really doesn't pay for what he did. He is a despicable human being who needed to do actual time even if only 6 months for what he did.

He doesn't deserve to be in an NFL line up IMO. She could have done a lot toward accomplishing that. The guy clearly has an issue and should have a DV conviction on his record. Making it easier to send him away even longer on the next one. And typically there will be a next one.

Can you please elaborate on the beating she took in the public? PRIOR to taking the $$ that is??? Do you have links to such "beatings" either from the media or the public in general? I would sure like to see what kind of "public beating" she took???

Her taking the money IMO rather than seeking true justice for this ass hat is also despicable… Not on the same level as what happened to her but still despicable in its own right.

I get it you guys are all touchy feel and sympathetic to her frail female self and her "mental sensibilities" in relation to some "imaginary beating she took" in the public… Good for you.

Ive seen it too much I've testified on it too much. Quite frankly Im sick and tired of these guys getting off. Whatever the reason. Either it be $ or because the women are scared or they are just downright brainwashed into thinking "it won't happen again he loves me" Its a bitter circle that keep occurring. Its about damn time women actually stand up for themselves and make sure the right thing is done.

DISCLAIMER: None of this means Im saying She deserved what she got(cheesebeef)

Man, this is ugly also Shane.

 

[schutd]

I should not have jumped in. My fault. Be content with your opinion. I think it's misguided. I hope some day it changes.

 

[WildBB]

How Jones signed this guy and talked him up is beyond bizarre!

 

[Bert]

This is not comparable to an ordinary woman letting her man off for DV. Theres really no need to be so glib about it.

Like I said in my original post. When there are millions of dollars involved, who could know if they would turn that down unless they have been in that situation? He didn't beat up her child, she is making a personal decision for herself.

I find it very hard to believe that she entered this relationship with the intention for her to get the living crap beat out of her so she could gain financially. So she dated a rich famous football player, that makes her deserving of what she got? Because I dont really know hot to interpret what is being said here any other way than that.

If someone beat the hell out of me, and then offered me millions of dollars to just say it never happened, I cant lie, I might take it.

I dont see how that automatically makes her so bad.

 

[Darkside]

We live in a society where personal dignity is less important than money.

I don't believe anyone is saying she deserved to get her ass kicked.

But it's not a male vs. female situation, as far as this discussion is concerned. I mentioned Steve McNair being murdered earlier: many people still believe he put himself in that situation by cheating on his wife.

Nobody knows the whole story. Some people saw the pictures and went crazy. There's a reason she didn't go to trial, who even knows if it was monetarily related. People saw those pictures and labeled her as a saint without even knowing her.

Nobody in this thread has said Hardy should be on an NFL roster. Everyone has said he should be doing time. I'm not sure what some people are looking for, other than to point fingers to feel morally superior. Says more about some of you than the victim or Hardy.

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[Shane]

This is not comparable to an ordinary woman letting her man off for DV. Theres really no need to be so glib about it.

Like I said in my original post. When there are millions of dollars involved, who could know if they would turn that down unless they have been in that situation? He didn't beat up her child, she is making a personal decision for herself.

I find it very hard to believe that she entered this relationship with the intention for her to get the living crap beat out of her so she could gain financially. So she dated a rich famous football player, that makes her deserving of what she got? Because I dont really know hot to interpret what is being said here any other way than that.

If someone beat the hell out of me, and then offered me millions of dollars to just say it never happened, I cant lie, I might take it.

I dont see how that automatically makes her so bad.

If you or anyone else can't separate what's being said from thinking it means "she deserves what she got" then you have severe reading comprehension issues... My opinion is clear that she went for the money when it was offered instead of what was doing what I feel is the right thing. Makes her a money chaser pure and simple... And unfortunately criminally he gets off Scott free.... Never implied stated or hinted that she deserved said beating... To imply or state such on my behalf is frankly moronic!!!

 

[Shane]

We live in a society where personal dignity is less important than money.

I don't believe anyone is saying she deserved to get her ass kicked.

But it's not a male vs. female situation, as far as this discussion is concerned. I mentioned Steve McNair being murdered earlier: many people still believe he put himself in that situation by cheating on his wife.

Nobody knows the whole story. Some people saw the pictures and went crazy. There's a reason she didn't go to trial, who even knows if it was monetarily related. People saw those pictures and labeled her as a saint without even knowing her.

Nobody in this thread has said Hardy should be on an NFL roster. Everyone has said he should be doing time. I'm not sure what some people are looking for, other than to point fingers to feel morally superior. Says more about some of you than the victim or Hardy.

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Outstanding post!!!

 

[splitsecond]

Shane, I love ya buddy, but this is an Ugly statement. This almost reads like she deserved what she got.

I don't know if I would put the the same way as Shane, but let's be real here. You don't stay with a psychopath because he is a good listener.


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[Buckybird]

I don't know if I would put the the same way as Shane, but let's be real here. You don't stay with a psychopath because he is a good listener.


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Scared & fearful for their life is what mostly happens.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Does she take him to court if he is just another guy without the means to pay her off? Guess we will never know. Guessing is what gets us all in trouble.

Did she deserve to get slammed over and over again on to a bed filled with AK-47's by a man so powerful he could have killed her? Hello No.

Wait..... What? .......... A bed full of AK-47's?

 

[HeavyB3]

Does she take him to court if he is just another guy without the means to pay her off? Guess we will never know. Guessing is what gets us all in trouble.

Did she deserve to get slammed over and over again on to a bed filled with AK-47's by a man so powerful he could have killed her? Hello No.

Wait..... What? .......... A bed full of AK-47's?

He already paid her off. Didnt she refuse to testify against her?