Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

[Dback Jon]

They should have cast someone a little more rough and tumble for Krum, IMO.

I had the same thought - I pictured someone a bit uglier....

 

[Chaplin]

I had the same thought - I pictured someone a bit uglier....

I think that's a bad picture of him--he's actually much rougher looking in other shots.

 

[arthurracoon]

24 hour bump.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

24 hour bump.

Already got tickets for Saturday morning...

Mike

 

[arthurracoon]

Already got tickets for Saturday morning...

Mike

got some tix for 12:10 am Friday early morning.




Who did the music/score for this? Is it John Williams again?

 

[Chaplin]

Who did the music/score for this? Is it John Williams again?

Patrick Doyle. He has done scores for all of Kenneth Branagh's films (Dead Again, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein). Hollywood Reporter or Variety in their review said it is the best score of the 4 movies (and the best movie of the 4, period).

 

[arthurracoon]

Patrick Doyle. He has done scores for all of Kenneth Branagh's films (Dead Again, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein). Hollywood Reporter or Variety in their review said it is the best score of the 4 movies (and the best movie of the 4, period).

I've liked the scores from the previous ones, so thats good news.



Is there a reason Williams didnt do this one?

 

[arthurracoon]

Good movie.

Some good parts, some not so good.

There were definately some akward moments, and the movie jumped around a bit.

I dont know if you would understand all of it if you hadnt read the books, as it does jump around a bit.

Overall, still a very good movie.





It was sad that some carachters (ie: Sirius, Snape, Malfoy) were not developed in this movie, and were just afterthoughts.

 

[Chaplin]

It was sad that some carachters (ie: Sirius, Snape, Malfoy) were not developed in this movie, and were just afterthoughts.

To be fair, the book was the same way--there were certain characters that JK Rowling focused on, and some that were a little background. Sirius and Snape become much more prevalent in the next book, and Malfoy of course becomes more central in book 6.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Rotten Tomatoes has it tracking at 89%!

That's good news, can't wait to see it...

Mike

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Saw it today, loved it...one of the best ones yet.

Mike

 

[arthurracoon]

To be fair, the book was the same way--there were certain characters that JK Rowling focused on, and some that were a little background. Sirius and Snape become much more prevalent in the next book, and Malfoy of course becomes more central in book 6.

True, although I would have liked to see Sirius a little more before the 5th one (like at the end)

 

[arthurracoon]

Saw it today, loved it...one of the best ones yet.

Mike

of course, id rather them make a 3.5 hour movie and add in everything (or a lot of stuff).

 

[Mike Olbinski]

of course, id rather them make a 3.5 hour movie and add in everything (or a lot of stuff).

Yeah, but i'm glad all the Doby house elves crap wasn't in it.

Mike

 

[arthurracoon]

Yeah, but i'm glad all the Doby house elves crap wasn't in it.

Mike

well, I wouldnt mind seeing Dobby give Harry the gillyweed, but Im definately glad the SPEW stuff wasnt in it.

 

[D-Dogg]

well, I wouldnt mind seeing Dobby give Harry the gillyweed, but Im definately glad the SPEW stuff wasnt in it.

Suck and suck. No Dobby at all?

And I like the SPEW stuff...they could have made passing reference to it...it's part of Hermione's character...she's all activist and such, very passionate and nobody gives a crap. I thought it funny and was kind of sad it would be cut out. But no gillyweed from Dobby? That really stinks. Poor Dobby, left on the cutting room floor.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Suck and suck. No Dobby at all?

And I like the SPEW stuff...they could have made passing reference to it...it's part of Hermione's character...she's all activist and such, very passionate and nobody gives a crap. I thought it funny and was kind of sad it would be cut out. But no gillyweed from Dobby? That really stinks. Poor Dobby, left on the cutting room floor.

Dobby was highly annoying in the last move, I was happy he wasn't in there...

Mike

 

[Chaplin]

Dobby was highly annoying in the last move, I was happy he wasn't in there...

Mike

Not to mention the price it would be to include house elves in the film. Those computer characters are not cheap to produce.

 

[Stout]

Really, really good movie. At the moment, my second favorite one. I was HIGHLY upset that they kept beating us over the head with Barty Crouch Jr., and that he was such a cardboard villain. I saw the reasoning for including him (none of the investigative stuff with the trio was there), but I didn't think he needed to be there. They could have just left him as part of the reveal, after seeing a much more docile Barty Crouch Jr (like in the book) in the pensieve.

Still, even with that, I thought this movie was MASTERFULLY done. Two of my friends, who do not know each other, described it in the EXACT SAME WORDS...they were amazed that one movie could so butcher a book, but do it in the perfect way to bring across the book. Two thumbs up for me

 

[Chaplin]

Really, really good movie. At the moment, my second favorite one. I was HIGHLY upset that they kept beating us over the head with Barty Crouch Jr., and that he was such a cardboard villain. I saw the reasoning for including him (none of the investigative stuff with the trio was there), but I didn't think he needed to be there. They could have just left him as part of the reveal, after seeing a much more docile Barty Crouch Jr (like in the book) in the pensieve.

Still, even with that, I thought this movie was MASTERFULLY done. Two of my friends, who do not know each other, described it in the EXACT SAME WORDS...they were amazed that one movie could so butcher a book, but do it in the perfect way to bring across the book. Two thumbs up for me

How did it butcher the book, besides leaving a lot out and not really expanding on the Harry/Ron problems? Just wondering what you're interpretation is. You hate every adaptation that ever comes out because it "butchers" the source material. Can you enlighten us on why you think so in this case? Because IMO I thought the film did a pretty good job. The stuff they didn't include wasn't needed.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The movie grossed $101 Million this weekend. It did about 40 Mil more than I thought it would.

Amazing opening!

 

[Dback Jon]

Saw it last night - not really impressed with it - but then again, I know the books very well, and spent most of the movie comparing it to the book (how they changed things, etc). Will probably be better on a second viewing.

I just don't like the Michael Gambon as Dumbledore - he is too fidgety/intense for the character. Richard Harris played the character spot on, but alas, he died.

The last half of the movie was much better than the first - the scenes with voldermort was excellent.

Other quibbles - Molly Weasley would have never let her sons have long hair like they all did in this movie. Victor Krum did not look like he was described. As little as they paid attention to Rita Skeeter, they should have just cut her completely - none of the aftermath of her articles was every shown, so why show her at all? Didn't like inserting Barty Crouch Jr like they did.

 

[Chaplin]

Other quibbles - Molly Weasley would have never let her sons have long hair like they all did in this movie. Victor Krum did not look like he was described. As little as they paid attention to Rita Skeeter, they should have just cut her completely - none of the aftermath of her articles was every shown, so why show her at all? Didn't like inserting Barty Crouch Jr like they did.

Just a few comments...

Don't understand your observation about the Weasleys. Why do you say that? I don't remember Mrs. Weasley being against long hair.

Krum, I'm not sure what you expected him to look like. I think the only thing was that maybe he wasn't "ugly" enough, but that's it.

And I kinda agree with you about Rita Skeeter, but she served a dual purpose, IMO. One, she is the beginnings of the expansion of Harry's world. Rita Skeeter is the link to the outside world, which becomes so prevalent in the next book. Second, she is most definitely a lead-in to the next movie--because as we know, her articles against the "Voldemort is back" rumors make Harry's life a living hell in Order of the Phoenix. (select SPOILER text)

As for Barty Crouch, Jr., I've read a lot about people not liking how he was used, but I could care less, personally. They did what they had to do with him. He was the son of a high-ranking Ministry official. He also was a Death Eater and took part during the attack on the Quidditch World Cup. He was an imposter. Those are basically the most major aspects to his character. He wasn't interesting enough to do anything else.

 

[Dback Jon]

Just a few comments...

Don't understand your observation about the Weasleys. Why do you say that? I don't remember Mrs. Weasley being against long hair.

She specifically goes on about older son Bill's long hair, but is unable to do anything because Bill is an adult.

Krum, I'm not sure what you expected him to look like. I think the only thing was that maybe he wasn't "ugly" enough, but that's it.

Again, Rowling is very detailed about his description - long, crooked nose, beady eyes, ungainly walk on land, very shy - nothing like the character in the movie.

And I kinda agree with you about Rita Skeeter, but she served a dual purpose, IMO. One, she is the beginnings of the expansion of Harry's world. Rita Skeeter is the link to the outside world, which becomes so prevalent in the next book. Second, she is most definitely a lead-in to the next movie--

If they expand on it - Order is another huge book, they are going to have to cut much out. That is one of the problems of having different directors for each movie - lack of continuity on some items.

As for Barty Crouch, Jr., I've read a lot about people not liking how he was used, but I could care less, personally. They did what they had to do with him. He was the son of a high-ranking Ministry official. He also was a Death Eater and took part during the attack on the Quidditch World Cup. He was an imposter. Those are basically the most major aspects to his character. He wasn't interesting enough to do anything else.

Yeah - hard to do what the books said on him

 

[Dback Jon]

More comments....



I thought the way the scene with Myrtle and Harry in the bathtub was way to creepy......

It missed the veela references - from both the World Cup, and Fleur. It really needed that portion.

Didn't like the maze - it was all shrinking vines/hedge - none of the challenges that made the book scenes great - very weakly shot.

Would have liked to see them set up the next movie - nothing about the re-establishment of the order of the Phoenix


I did really like the Underwater scenes.