Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

[Chaplin]

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I thought the way the scene with Myrtle and Harry in the bathtub was way to creepy......

It missed the veela references - from both the World Cup, and Fleur. It really needed that portion.

Didn't like the maze - it was all shrinking vines/hedge - none of the challenges that made the book scenes great - very weakly shot.

Would have liked to see them set up the next movie - nothing about the re-establishment of the order of the Phoenix


I did really like the Underwater scenes.

So other than the Underwater scene, you hated the movie... You do know it was 2 1/2 hours already, right? If they would have put in what you think they should have, the movie would have run over 3 hours--not a good running time for a movie like this (as it is, 2 1/2 is pushing it).

 

[jenna2891]

I just don't like the Michael Gambon as Dumbledore - he is too fidgety/intense for the character. Richard Harris played the character spot on, but alas, he died.

i agree. he comes off as a little angry all the time. that makes dumbledore too human, harder to appreciate as the mentor that you come to expect to have every situation handled.

 

[Dback Jon]

So other than the Underwater scene, you hated the movie... You do know it was 2 1/2 hours already, right? If they would have put in what you think they should have, the movie would have run over 3 hours--not a good running time for a movie like this (as it is, 2 1/2 is pushing it).

I would have been happy with 3 hours - it would have flowed a lot better. Much of the movie seem rushed.

And I liked most of the latter half of the movie, but there were some major holes in it.

 

[Dback Jon]

i agree. he comes off as a little angry all the time. that makes dumbledore too human, harder to appreciate as the mentor that you come to expect to have every situation handled.

Yup - Dumbledore shouldn't have those outbreaks of anger - he's the levelheaded one when all around are in turmoil.

 

[Chaplin]

I would have been happy with 3 hours - it would have flowed a lot better. Much of the movie seem rushed.

And I liked most of the latter half of the movie, but there were some major holes in it.

First of all, a 3 hour movie, as you probably know, has profit implications. If the movie was 3 hours long, it would not have made more than 100 million in its first weekend.

Secondly, IMO there were no "major" holes. There were a few holes, as you pointed out, but nothing "major". That's just my opinion of course, but it's coming across as if you're someone who wants it to fail just because you feel like you know better because you read the books. I read the books too, but the movies are just fine and impecabbly well-made.

 

[Stout]

Would have liked to see them set up the next movie - nothing about the re-establishment of the order of the Phoenix

See, to me, this is the major gripe. After watching this movie, the 'alerted' part of the wizarding world is not at war. The problem is, it most undoubtedly IS at war. We needed to know that, to get that knowledge of Dumbledore's and the Order's efforts.

Still loved the movie. Went over other parts I thought should have been better, but I did love the movie.

 

[UncleChris]

I think this movie was haunted by the same ghost that haunted "The Lord of the Rings," i.e. How do you stuff 5 hours of material into a 2 1/2 hour movie. I thought they did one helluva job. I don't know how they could have cut it any differently (i.e. remove some existing part to insert another part).

The special effects were astounding....




p.s. DBJ - I thought the bathtub scene with Myrtle and Harry was great!!! You're right.... it was creepy, and meant to be so. But I still loved it (does this make me a pervert??? )

 

[Dback Jon]

First of all, a 3 hour movie, as you probably know, has profit implications. If the movie was 3 hours long, it would not have made more than 100 million in its first weekend.

Secondly, IMO there were no "major" holes. There were a few holes, as you pointed out, but nothing "major". That's just my opinion of course, but it's coming across as if you're someone who wants it to fail just because you feel like you know better because you read the books. I read the books too, but the movies are just fine and impecabbly well-made.

I know a three-hour movie wouldn't make as much the first weekend - but it will still gross 300-400 million - everyone that wants to see the movie will see it.

I was really looking forward to this movie - based on all the publicity, and the fact that the GOF is the best of the books. Like I said earlier, I will probably like it more on further viewings, but it is obvious the studio went for a director that was unfamiliar with the books, and attention to detail was not followed like it should have been. With the popularity of the books, it is a major hole not to do so.


Looking back further on the movie, another major hole is the directing of Dumbledore. He is so out of character it is like he is a totally different person than in the books/first three movies (and yes, I realize the character is portrayed by a different actor than the first two).

 

[Dback Jon]

See, to me, this is the major gripe. After watching this movie, the 'alerted' part of the wizarding world is not at war. The problem is, it most undoubtedly IS at war. We needed to know that, to get that knowledge of Dumbledore's and the Order's efforts.

It will be interesting to see how they do the transition in the first part of the next movie.

 

[Dback Jon]

p.s. DBJ - I thought the bathtub scene with Myrtle and Harry was great!!! You're right.... it was creepy, and meant to be so. But I still loved it (does this make me a pervert??? )

Yes, it does make you a pervert...

 

[Stout]

I agree on Dumbledore. I don't much like Gambon's Dumbledore, but I can live with it. Harris WAS Dumbledore, though.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I agree on Dumbledore. I don't much like Gambon's Dumbledore, but I can live with it. Harris WAS Dumbledore, though.

Knowing what happens in the the next few books, I have to agree...the old one was better....but we'll get used to this guy...it's not his fault that he has big shoes to fill.

Mike

 

[arthurracoon]

I agree on Dumbledore. I don't much like Gambon's Dumbledore, but I can live with it. Harris WAS Dumbledore, though.

yea

I would like to see Gambon slow down just a bit.

 

[Yuma]

I thought the new Dumbledore was better than adequate. He didn't even make you notice he was a "New" Dumblebore.

I was disappointed in the Crum character in that Ron went on and on how he liked Crum after seeing him in the World Cup. That part they included in the movie. Then in the book, the first time they see Crum at Hogwarts, he walks like a duck and everyone teases Ron about it. It was a great learning part of the book on how stars are never the same when you meet them in person. My son and I especially talked about this part of the book when we read it. It didn't ruin the movie, but it would have been better if it was in it, and it would have only taken two minutes more to bring it out. Like I said, it didn't ruin the movie.

Also, the part with Hagrid and Maxime was really superficial. That was also a great part of the book when Maxime refused to believe she was a Giantess. That was also a good life leason my son and I talked about. Again, it didn't ruin the movie, just a disappointment as far as the educational parts of the book seemingly being stripped away from the movie.

Would have liked to see the other contestants fighting their dragons as described in the book. Would have made the dragons seem even fiercer when Harry had to match wits with his. Also would have made Harry's accomplishment better than the others like in the book.

Overall, I thought it was the best movie ever of the series.

 

[Stout]

I thought the new Dumbledore was better than adequate. He didn't even make you notice he was a "New" Dumblebore.

He wasn't; Gambon was Dumbledore in the 3rd movie as well, and you could clearly see in Prisoner he was different.

I was disappointed in the Crum character in that Ron went on and on how he liked Crum after seeing him in the World Cup. Then in the book, the first time they see Crum at Hogwarts, he walks like a duck and everyone teases Ron about it.

Krum wasn't looked down upon at Hogwarts. Far from it. He was worshipped, by Ron and even by Harry, to a much lesser extent. Ron even tried to catch his eye to get him to sit at their table. Hermione did make comments about people only liking Krum because he was famous (especially girls).

Would have liked to see the other contestants fighting their dragons as described in the book.

It wasn't described in the book. We only had Harry listening to what was going on outside (which was in the movie) and a brief description of what the other champions had tried AFTER Harry had finished with his dragon.

Overall, I thought it was the best movie ever of the series.

Absolutely. Sorry to be a jerk, but I didn't want you making unfair digs at the movie. I thoroughly agree with your last statement.

 

[Yuma]

I thought the new Dumbledore was better than adequate. He didn't even make you notice he was a "New" Dumblebore.

He wasn't; Gambon was Dumbledore in the 3rd movie as well, and you could clearly see in Prisoner he was different.

Dumbledore was different in this book, too. I remember how Harry wondered what was wrong with him. He was being true to the character in that book.

I was disappointed in the Crum character in that Ron went on and on how he liked Crum after seeing him in the World Cup. Then in the book, the first time they see Crum at Hogwarts, he walks like a duck and everyone teases Ron about it.

Krum wasn't looked down upon at Hogwarts. Far from it. He was worshipped, by Ron and even by Harry, to a much lesser extent. Ron even tried to catch his eye to get him to sit at their table. Hermione did make comments about people only liking Krum because he was famous (especially girls).

Then you obviously forgot about his duck walk. Ron even used it later to tease Hermione about it. The boys in Hogwarts didn't think he was all that. Just like the girls, especially Hermione didn't think Fluer was all that either!

Would have liked to see the other contestants fighting their dragons as described in the book.

It wasn't described in the book. We only had Harry listening to what was going on outside (which was in the movie) and a brief description of what the other champions had tried AFTER Harry had finished with his dragon.

You could be right, but there was a synopsis about how one character was almost burned to a crisp, and the others were hurt also, giving the school doctor lots of work. In the book Harry had the least injuries of the 4 and had the most impressive snagging of the egg!

Overall, I thought it was the best movie ever of the series.

Absolutely. Sorry to be a jerk, but I didn't want you making unfair digs at the movie. I thoroughly agree with your last statement.

My son made me read each book to him TWICE. So I think I remember it pretty good.

 

[Stout]

My son made me read each book to him TWICE. So I think I remember it pretty good.

Not the above parts.

I've read them about 10 times each. Oh, and mine's bigger than yours

 

[UncleChris]

 

[Yuma]

Not the above parts.

I've read them about 10 times each. Oh, and mine's bigger than yours

If you can't remember Crum's duck walk, I seriously doubt you read the book at all! :callingsomeoneoutbecauseIwentandfounditinthebook:

 

[D-Dogg]

I didn't like that Rita Skeeter didn't get her comeuppance. She wasn't nearly as terrible as the book version...that really got to me, because I loved the way Hermione worked that chick over.

I agree on the handling of Crouch, Jr. and not showing his mom and him switching places to get out of Azkaban...they made it seem like he just broke out of Azkaban, which Sirus did. BCJr is no Sirus Black.

I missed the Dursleys, Molly, etc.


But this was a great movie; I loved Ron's character in it...he's awesome and Grint plays that character so well.

 

[Stout]

If you can't remember Crum's duck walk, I seriously doubt you read the book at all! :callingsomeoneoutbecauseIwentandfounditinthebook:

I thought you simply replied with one line...the text you added didn't differ at all in color on my screen.

I didn't say Krum didn't duck walk. I NEVER would say that, because he DID. He looked very awkward and out-of-sorts on the ground. That didn't mean he was derided; he was still a celebrity. Still have NO idea where you read I can't remember his duck walk I've read the book, and have a far vaster knowledge of it than you do. I didn't say you'd never read it, merely that you weren't quite as up to snuff as you thought. You know jack if you doubt I read it.

 

[starbucks]

saw the movie last night. kicked butt!!!

 

[D-Dogg]

saw the movie last night. kicked butt!!!

So the movie made you go fight someone?

 

[Louis]

I watched the movie over the weekend and I enjoyed it as well.

I still think #3 is the best one of the franchise.

This one jumped right into the adventure and pretty much kept up the pace. It was good not to have to put up with Harry's family at home.

This one didn't really have the intrigue of Harry learning about the Wizard life and his surroundings.

A few things in this episode didn't seem to work, but I won't name them for fear of spoiling this movie to anybody that hasn't seen it yet.

But it is a good film. The action and suspense can't be beat.

This film definitely wiped the bad taste out of my mouth thanks to the awful summer of movies this year.
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Did anybody think that the new Superman guy looks like Eminem dressed up as a superhero? Other than the dark hair, to me they look alike.

 

[Yuma]

I thought you simply replied with one line...the text you added didn't differ at all in color on my screen.

I didn't say Krum didn't duck walk. I NEVER would say that, because he DID. He looked very awkward and out-of-sorts on the ground. That didn't mean he was derided; he was still a celebrity. Still have NO idea where you read I can't remember his duck walk I've read the book, and have a far vaster knowledge of it than you do. I didn't say you'd never read it, merely that you weren't quite as up to snuff as you thought. You know jack if you doubt I read it.

Well, to be fair about it, you called me out on everyone deriding Krum, when I originally said everyone teased RON about it. I never said everyone derided Krum, you said that! So you were off on what I wrote to begin with! So there!

Then in the book, the first time they see Crum at Hogwarts, he walks like a duck and everyone teases Ron about it.