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My guess is A&M can pay more.
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My guess is A&M can pay more.
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Have confirmation that ASU has backed off Houston coach Kevin Sumlin. Likely reason: Can't match what Texas A&M will offer.
Have confirmation that ASU has backed off Houston coach Kevin Sumlin. Likely reason: Can't match what Texas A&M will offer.
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Haller is also saying that June Jones and Fedora are possibilities. Jones doesn't seem like a good option IMO.
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Wonderful, the leftover scraps! Seriously, the idea of June Jones is just disgusting. He's 58, hasn't been very good as of late, and offers zero upside. At this point, considering the dreck that's available, maybe time to take a shot at a young up and comer? Any reason a guy like Chryst isn't being considered?
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Fedora's going to end miserably, too. LOL Mullen's going to Penn State, Fedora gets the Miss State job (which will pay more than ASU, too), and ASU will look really, really bad.
June Jones is 58, wins 2 out of every 3 games, and has had only 3 losing seasons in 12 years as a HC. He is THE run-and-shoot expert. He also already makes $2 million a year at SMU.
June Jones is 58, wins 2 out of every 3 games, and has had only 3 losing seasons in 12 years as a HC. He is THE run-and-shoot expert. He also already makes $2 million a year at SMU.
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June Jones isn't as bad as some are making him out to be. Certainly not good though, might as well keep Erickson and save the money.
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When this is the scenario, things are really grim.
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Get rid of Lisa Love. I want a coach like Kirk Gibson.
I'm grasping at straws here but.....
what if Southern Miss upsets Houston? I wonder if the TAMU boosters wouldn't then put pressure on their AD to prefer Fedora to Sumlin and bring the local boy home. Sumlin could then have to revert back to his offer from ASU as the best deal on the table. Though I imagine, as often is the case, both sides would be too proud to re engage.
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I really hope they don't go with a re-tred like June Jones, I'll blow my brains out having to watch the Run and Shoot every Fall. I'd rather just take a huge dice roll on a guy like English, maybe he flames out entirely, but at this point I think I'm more in the mood to throw the Hail Mary than the short pass to the flats.
what if Southern Miss upsets Houston? I wonder if the TAMU boosters wouldn't then put pressure on their AD to prefer Fedora to Sumlin and bring the local boy home. Sumlin could then have to revert back to his offer from ASU as the best deal on the table. Though I imagine, as often is the case, both sides would be too proud to re engage.
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I really hope they don't go with a re-tred like June Jones, I'll blow my brains out having to watch the Run and Shoot every Fall. I'd rather just take a huge dice roll on a guy like English, maybe he flames out entirely, but at this point I think I'm more in the mood to throw the Hail Mary than the short pass to the flats.
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Pretty disheartening coming from you...
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June Jones has major health problems and is 58 years old.
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Art Briles has also been mentioned several times. He could be a great option.
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Of all the remanining potentials, Fedora is by far the best option. In fact, you can argue he was the better option over Sumlin.
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Get it done ASU!!!
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Fedora would be a good choice.
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I may be alone, but I really WOULDN'T mind Mora Jr. and have made my thoughts on Fedora known. Also wouldn't cry too much over Jones, yes he's older and his health issues are documented, but he's won at a school that hadn't won since coming off the Death Penalty and took Hawaii to the BCS. He'd be a 7-10 year fix but hell that's enough time to change a culture.
Why? Look at what conference Fadora coaches in and the teams in that conference. He has a win percentage around 60% in that conference.
Is he really that great of a prospect? Just asking.
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IMO, Lisa Love has already made two major mistakes in the coaching search. First, she puts out something to the effect that ASU will not enter into a bidding war. Strike one.
Second she lets Sumlin's selection get out before it was a done deal. Strike two.
If she cannot pull a rabbit out of the hat and land a good coaching prospect, well strike three.
Sadly, I was higher on the hire of Erickson than Sendek. Sendek coaches boring basketball, especially for the Pac 12. ASU needs to get back to an uptempo game that attracts top players like under the Ned Wulk era.
In other words Love is 0-2 in major sports hires but she cannot miss on another head coaching hire. ASU does have a proud legacy in football but unfortunately it dates back to the Frank Kush era.
I would like to see Love get this hire correct, but right now I am concerned. Please get this one right.
Second she lets Sumlin's selection get out before it was a done deal. Strike two.
If she cannot pull a rabbit out of the hat and land a good coaching prospect, well strike three.
Sadly, I was higher on the hire of Erickson than Sendek. Sendek coaches boring basketball, especially for the Pac 12. ASU needs to get back to an uptempo game that attracts top players like under the Ned Wulk era.
In other words Love is 0-2 in major sports hires but she cannot miss on another head coaching hire. ASU does have a proud legacy in football but unfortunately it dates back to the Frank Kush era.
I would like to see Love get this hire correct, but right now I am concerned. Please get this one right.
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Been there 4 years. His records have been:
7 & 6
7 & 6
8 & 5
10 & 2
Tells me his recruiting skills are very solild and havng an impact, moving the team in a very positive direction. He's an an OC at Oklahoma St and Florida. Yet, this year his defense is ranked 26th in the country! The guy can flat out coach!
Yes but isn't doing that in Conference USA and doing that in that Pac12 sort of like comparing apples to oranges? He is going to have to recruit against teams in the Pac12 and face much better coaching and teams year in and year out. The type of player you can recruit to go to Conference USA is not the type of player you need here at ASU to compete in this conference.
Maybe he can.....his hire just does nothing for me.
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Uh - he's coaching in Conference USA. So, um, yes, his record is specific to Conference USA where, yes, he is playing other Conference USA teams.
He can only do what he can do in the conference he works. Are you suggesting that great minor league baseball players could never turn into great major league players simply because they are only playing against minor league talent?
Or, are you suggesting we need to magically convince Urban Meyer or Nick Saban or Chip Kelly to leave their jobs to come to Tempe?
Or, are you in favor of going the retread route with a June Jones, because it certainly worked out well with Erickson??
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His name circulating for the ASU job worries me the most.
Those of you negative on C-USA, etc coaches likely would have been up in arms had ASU gone after a coach from Bowling Green - after all, Urban Meyer was just beating other MAC teams.
Remember, 11 years ago ASU declined to go after Ben Howland because he was only winning in the Big Sky.
Too bad Arizona screwed up and got Sean Miller - he was only winning in the lowly A-10.
Remember, 11 years ago ASU declined to go after Ben Howland because he was only winning in the Big Sky.
Too bad Arizona screwed up and got Sean Miller - he was only winning in the lowly A-10.
The guy Fedora replaced was there for 16 years and had the exact same winning percentage. In 12 years in the C-USA, Jeff Bower won less than 7 games (6-5, 2001) 1 time. Four times he won 9 games.
Southern Miss was not broken when Fedora took over. The only thing he's done Bower couldn't do is win 10 games instead of 9 in their best years. It's a program with built-in recruiting advantages over most of the other programs in the C-USA.
