Head Coach Candidates?

[Gaddabout]

Thats depressing. I assume English called Tomlin and asked him to do it? I imagine English is chomping at the bit for the ASU job, he really seems to respect Snyder and even hold him in higher regard than Lloyd Carr. He seems like such the obvious choice at this point, this is awful.

English absolutely adores ASU. It's his adopted home. He's maintained unusually loyal friendships with boosters here, and talks with them on a regular basis. Of course, I've never met anyone who's ever met English who doesn't think he's the coolest dude on the planet.

I think Ron will prove to be a better head coach than he was as an assistant. He gets it. He's a vision caster. He's all about long-term investment in the culture of a program. He ran off half the team after his first year at Eastern Michigan. He then got a school facing a $20 million deficit to invest $4 million in an indoor practice facility. Then he went about beating Western Michigan and Central Michigan for recruits the last two years, probably the first time that's happened ... ever. We're talking about a program that is historically and statistically probably the worst college football program of the 20th Century.

He returns most of the team that went 6-6 this year. They'll probably be the favorites to win the MAC.

 

[HooverDam]

English absolutely adores ASU. It's his adopted home. He's maintained unusually loyal friendships with boosters here, and talks with them on a regular basis. Of course, I've never met anyone who's ever met English who doesn't think he's the coolest dude on the planet.

I think Ron will prove to be a better head coach than he was as an assistant. He gets it. He's a vision caster. He's all about long-term investment in the culture of a program. He ran off half the team after his first year at Eastern Michigan. He then got a school facing a $20 million deficit to invest $4 million in an indoor practice facility. Then he went about beating Western Michigan and Central Michigan for recruits the last two years, probably the first time that's happened ... ever. We're talking about a program that is historically and statistically probably the worst college football program of the 20th Century.

He returns most of the team that went 6-6 this year. They'll probably be the favorites to win the MAC.

This post gives me a stomach ache.

Watching videos of him on Youtube, seeing his interviews, the "Embrace the Process" mantra, I love it...he really has a great fire.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

English absolutely adores ASU. It's his adopted home. He's maintained unusually loyal friendships with boosters here, and talks with them on a regular basis. Of course, I've never met anyone who's ever met English who doesn't think he's the coolest dude on the planet.

I think Ron will prove to be a better head coach than he was as an assistant. He gets it. He's a vision caster. He's all about long-term investment in the culture of a program. He ran off half the team after his first year at Eastern Michigan. He then got a school facing a $20 million deficit to invest $4 million in an indoor practice facility. Then he went about beating Western Michigan and Central Michigan for recruits the last two years, probably the first time that's happened ... ever. We're talking about a program that is historically and statistically probably the worst college football program of the 20th Century.

He returns most of the team that went 6-6 this year. They'll probably be the favorites to win the MAC.

Considering he's such an obvious candidate, it begs the question, why aren't they interested?

 

[Gaddabout]

 

[HooverDam]

Considering he's such an obvious candidate, it begs the question, why aren't they interested?

I think as Matt has alluded to before its the fact that English doesn't win the Press Conference, especially with uneducated fans or idiots like Gambo. They'll just go "he went 0-12" and "he only went 6-6 in the MAC!" and not bother to delve any deeper mentally.

 

[Gaddabout]

Considering he's such an obvious candidate, it begs the question, why aren't they interested?

I can only guess, but I'm certain it has something to do with not knowing how to sell Ron English to Dan Bickley or the guy who sits in the $99-a-year seat in the upper west stand.

But no one's ever accused our administration of being forward-looking.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Considering he's such an obvious candidate, it begs the question, why aren't they interested?

Because they're too worried about what the fan base, and worry that a number of them will have a public outcry over his head coaching record. Regretfully, not enough look at the entire picture, too many worry about the frame.

For the record, I'm in favor of English as a candidate.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Probably more than you'd like. I'm from Alabama and my family is plugged into the program. They like Kirby, but they're not terrified of him leaving because Saban is the defensive mind in that program. Kirby's a good recruiter who's been waiting on the Georgia job, his alma mater. With everyone but Georgia falling apart in the SEC East, it looks like Richt is going to hang on to the job for awhile. He does not want to leave the South, which is smart, since he has no clue what it takes to run a program elsewhere.

This, and there's also the ten - 100 million Saban to Texas rumor that won't go away.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

English absolutely adores ASU. It's his adopted home. He's maintained unusually loyal friendships with boosters here, and talks with them on a regular basis. Of course, I've never met anyone who's ever met English who doesn't think he's the coolest dude on the planet.

I think Ron will prove to be a better head coach than he was as an assistant. He gets it. He's a vision caster. He's all about long-term investment in the culture of a program. He ran off half the team after his first year at Eastern Michigan. He then got a school facing a $20 million deficit to invest $4 million in an indoor practice facility. Then he went about beating Western Michigan and Central Michigan for recruits the last two years, probably the first time that's happened ... ever. We're talking about a program that is historically and statistically probably the worst college football program of the 20th Century.

He returns most of the team that went 6-6 this year. They'll probably be the favorites to win the MAC.

It really is because administration types and casual fans don't like the process in which certain coaches tear something down just to build it up. It takes too much time even though there is a bigger picture. Except by going through the process that way and not just tweaking a thing here and there is ultimately how you change the culture of an organization. The problem that ASU faces is that a decent segment of the people involved believe that all the Devils need is some discipline (as if just a head coach who is only allowed a few hours per week with players can turn 85 of them from low IQ into high and headcases into choir boys) and everything will be fine since the talent is there. The reality is that you can't undo years of an undisciplined approach by plugging in one guy where another formerly was.

I have heard countless ASU fans discuss the importance of "keeping the recruiting class intact" and "retaining assistants" for some reason. Why is this? Did they see how the type of player Erickson recruited played on the field the last couple years? Do they not realize that those players are mostly scouted and individually tutored by these supposedly great assistants and not Erickson? I saw this at UA this year with a bunch of cries to keep assistants and when Miller got here too. What is ASU really holding on to where they need to keep some sort of status quo?

 

[jf-08]

http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/12/...ing_sundevils.html?blockID=621718&feedID=3702

ASU coaching search a comedy of errors

So freaking embarrassing.

 

[jf-08]

Even worse:

http://wireddevils.blogspot.com/

Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Chris Karpman: History Lesson/Reminder
The best reporting of the coaching search has come from ASUDevils.com. Well worth the price of a subscription. (And no, I don't get a cut!) Chris Karpman posted this to The Gold Rush message board on Tuesday 12/6 and kindly agreed to allow me to share it for all to read.

People here know that I've been around the Herb Sendek program for 5 years and what that means. It's with that knowledge that I'd like to pass along this story, which is absolutely true in its details according to multiple direct participants I have spoken with subsequent to the initial reporting those 5 years ago.

When ASU fired Rob Evans Lisa Love immediately targeted Pitt coach Jamie Dixon and did the hypothetical offer dance ('We'd probably consider an offer at X if you were willing to accept an offer at X, hypothetically'), Dixon played it for all it was worth, teased ASU badly with his expression of interest only to use the opportunity to renegotiate with Pitt.

Subsequent to that, Love made a strong play for Rick Majerus and even made a tentative offer subject to his passing a physical, which he did not pass and is the reason he didn't end up coaching at ASU (he was coming off leg surgery, travel was a major problem for recruiting etc., plus his weight/heart issues, which he fully admitted to after the fact).

These things were reported by us at the time, some conventional media scoffed at it, but they were very true and people who were here on the site remember this probably or do now after having their memory jogged by this re-telling.

..... and more

 

[az jam]

Interesting article Guden talking about Leavitt.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/DouglasHaller/150354

 

[crisper57]

Listening to 620 AM and per John Gambadoro twitter, ASU is backing off June Jones due to backlash.

http://twitter.com/Gambo620

Driving in today, Calvisi had an update. There were two reasons they backed away from June Jones:

1. Booster backlash (the minor reason)
2. There were "major concerns" with his background check

That is interesting to me for several reasons. One, with all the scandals in college coaching, background checks are a sensitive issue. If ASU really found something, SMU should be very concerned. Two, if this is a smokescreen to cover Lisa Love's bungling, then June Jones will have a pretty good lawsuit on his hands for slander.

Lisa Love sucks.

 

[Mainstreet]

http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/12/...ing_sundevils.html?blockID=621718&feedID=3702

ASU coaching search a comedy of errors

So freaking embarrassing.

I think Craig Morgan hits the nail on the head in the linked article dated 12-7-11.

It might be time to explore one of those hot-shot coordinators Love talked about in multiple press briefings following Dennis Erickson’s firing. At least an up-and-comer could be wooed by the prospect of coaching in a BCS conference with a glut of talent returning to the fold.

The problem is, we’re not convinced Love or Patterson (who’s in charge here, anyway?) ever compiled that list.

Love insisted that every AD does that sort of diligence before a coach is fired — before a coach is even in danger of being fired. But if Love really dug deep and compiled a long list of potential candidates, if she asked associates about them, found out why they are so promising, found out how much they’d cost and then gauged their interest in ASU, how in the world did ASU end up considering June Jones in the first place?

I do not think ASU was prepared to engage in alternatives.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Driving in today, Calvisi had an update. There were two reasons they backed away from June Jones:

1. Booster backlash (the minor reason)
2. There were "major concerns" with his background check

That is interesting to me for several reasons. One, with all the scandals in college coaching, background checks are a sensitive issue. If ASU really found something, SMU should be very concerned. Two, if this is a smokescreen to cover Lisa Love's bungling, then June Jones will have a pretty good lawsuit on his hands for slander.

Lisa Love sucks.

If there was a legitimate major concern, Love probably made the right decision, although you'd think a background check would be completed before an offer was extended. It will be interesting to find out the details about exactly when this supposed major concern came up, what it was, etc.

 

[Mathew81]

That is interesting to me for several reasons. One, with all the scandals in college coaching, background checks are a sensitive issue. If ASU really found something, SMU should be very concerned. .

A letter written by a U of Hawaii professor to a Hawaii newspaper has been floating around the various message boards for a few days now. This professor claims that Jones impregnated a UH volleyball player, was dating Tommy Chang's sister or cousin and was seen by multiple students having sex with a student in a car at a local high school.

https://sites.google.com/site/scandalisland/home/u-h-coach-june-jones

 

[crisper57]

A letter written by a U of Hawaii professor to a Hawaii newspaper has been floating around the various message boards for a few days now. This professor claims that Jones impregnated a UH volleyball player, was dating Tommy Chang's sister or cousin and was seen by multiple students having sex with a student in a car at a local high school.

https://sites.google.com/site/scandalisland/home/u-h-coach-june-jones

Yep. That would do it.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

A letter written by a U of Hawaii professor to a Hawaii newspaper has been floating around the various message boards for a few days now. This professor claims that Jones impregnated a UH volleyball player, was dating Tommy Chang's sister or cousin and was seen by multiple students having sex with a student in a car at a local high school.

https://sites.google.com/site/scandalisland/home/u-h-coach-june-jones

Could you imagine what it would be like if we hired June Jones, these allegations proved true, we lost by six touchdowns to Washington State, then found out that Mike Leach wanted the ASU job, but ASU never considered him because of his reputation?

 

[Renz]

A letter written by a U of Hawaii professor to a Hawaii newspaper has been floating around the various message boards for a few days now. This professor claims that Jones impregnated a UH volleyball player, was dating Tommy Chang's sister or cousin and was seen by multiple students having sex with a student in a car at a local high school.

https://sites.google.com/site/scandalisland/home/u-h-coach-june-jones

This is spin. Rumors about Jones and UH co-eds have been around for years. Crow just doesn't want to admit publicly that the boosters have emasculated him.

 

[AsUdUdE]

whatever about the background check.. they rightfully pulled the offer when they realized " Oh **** we're about to hire June ******* Jones"

And if they were sooo concerned about winnign the press conference that they are not even giving Ron English a shot, how the hell did they get soo close with June Jones??

That press conference would have gotten ugly fast..

further evidence of just how far removed this administration actually is

 

[Mainstreet]

This is spin. Rumors about Jones and UH co-eds have been around for years. Crow just doesn't want to admit publicly that the boosters have emasculated him.

I think Crow getting in touch with the boosters, even if in an unfortunate way, was a good thing. Lisa Love should have had the pulse on the situation. Now I think Crow is wondering why Lisa Love was not in touch with reality.

 

[Renz]

I think Crow getting in touch with the boosters, even if in an unfortunate way, was a good thing. Lisa Love should have had the pulse on the situation. Now I think Crow is wondering why Lisa Love was not in touch with reality.

I agree with you there. Not getting Jones was a good move in the end.

Well, depending on who ultimately gets hired.

 

[jf-08]

I think Crow getting in touch with the boosters, even if in an unfortunate way, was a good thing. Lisa Love should have had the pulse on the situation. Now I think Crow is wondering why Lisa Love was not in touch with reality.

Sendek extension.

WTF is going on at ASU?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Sendek extension.

WTF is going on at ASU?

Seriously, this is driving me nuts.

 

[Gaddabout]

As much as I like to joke about us fans having an impact, June Jones would be the head coach today if the middlemen in this deal had their facts straight on his SMU buyout. That's reality.