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Urban Meyer or Rich Rodriguez
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No chance of Meyer. He's probably going to get Saban type money from Ohio St. No chance of RichRod either. NCAA accused UM of what they consider "major violations" while he was there. ASU won't touch him.
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Kirby Smart or Venables would be amazing HC's. This team NEEDS a defensive minded coach that preaches fundamentals and discipline, something this team hasn't had in a very, very long time. If we have at least a semi-competent DC, this defense can be very good. With Magee coming back, and Burfict hopefully staying another year to develop, this could be a great defense if the coach knows what they're doing. Venables/Smart could turn this team around, and bring in some great recruits as well. Please don't be cheap ASU, "you get what you pay for".
I don't know how much of the blame for the baseball debacle falls on Love, but it's hard to be positive about any of the three big sports right now.
There are lots of guys on that list who are unemployable as head coaches, namely Steve Kragthorpe and Nick Holt, who makes the list something of a joke, anyway. Washington fans are still upset he makes so much money for so little production.
Paul Chryst is a rock star coordinator who will probably be a head coach next year. He definitely belongs near the top of that list.
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Now that Greg Byrne has hired Rich Rodriguez, do you think the pressure will be on Lisa Love to fire Erickson sooner than later? Erickson is basically a dead man walking so why wait because the quicker you get a coach, the more time he will have to salvage a recruiting class.
Personally I'm beyond disgusted that Erickson hasn't been canned yet. I think once everyone realized "Oh hey ASU can still make the P12 Title Game if this weird scenario plays out!" they decided they had to give him that shot.
I really wanted him canned once I realized that possibility though, my worst fear is ASU beats Cal and goes to the Title game and people try to use that to justify keeping Erickson. If the unthinkable happens and they then go on to upset Oregon in the title game (less than .05% chance of happening, but college football is weird) then ASU could really be screwed & stuck with him.
I'm hoping Love and Erickson have worked out a deal for him to step down at the end of the year, regardless of how the year plays out. Maybe him knowing he has this insane long shot to make the Rose Bowl in his last year here will finally light a fire under his ass and the players, but I doubt it.
On another note, from the AzCentral article about UA's RichRod hiring:
I wonder if Bellotti backed off on that job when it started to look like the ASU job would be opening up? Bellotti wouldn't be my #1 choice for the Devils, I'd rather have someone young who could be here for a long while, but it would certainly be a safe choice and someone who could hopefully right the ship.
Just look at his record at Oregon after all, even without Phil Knights money I think its a reasonable model for what a good Coach at ASU could do:
Oregon Ducks (Pacific-10 Conference) (1995–2008)
1995 Oregon 9–3 6–2 3rd L Cotton
1996 Oregon 6–5 3–5 T–5th
1997 Oregon 7–5 3–5 T–7th W Las Vegas
1998 Oregon 8–4 5–3 T–3rd L Aloha
1999 Oregon 9–3 6–2 T–2nd W Sun
2000 Oregon 10–2 7–1 T–1st W Holiday
2001 Oregon 11–1 7–1 1st W Fiesta
2002 Oregon 7–6 3–5 8th L Seattle
2003 Oregon 8–5 5–3 T–3rd L Sun
2004 Oregon 5–6 4–4 T–5th
2005 Oregon 10–2 7–1 2nd L Holiday
2006 Oregon 7–6 4–5 T–5th L Las Vegas
2007 Oregon 9–4 5–4 T–4th W Sun
2008 Oregon 10–3 7–2 T–2nd W Holiday
Oregon: 116–55 72–43
Lots of 8-10 win seasons, a few mediocre 6-7 win years and a clinker here and there for good measure. Lots of bowl games and a decent record in said Bowl Games. No Rose Bowl on the resume, but it was tough with Troy on the roll that they had.
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I'll take Rodriguez over Bellotti. Bellotti is 61 and who knows how much he has left in the tank. He left an Oregon team that was loaded. Also, would the fans buy into hiring another 60+ head coach? I'm glad Bellotti isn't the coach at the UofA.
I personally don't care about age. Just wins.
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You might not but the recruits do, especially when opposing coaches use that as a negative toward Bellotti.
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I think it's more likely UCLA than ASU, but overall I don't think Bellotti is coming back. UA Football certainly doesn't have as high a ceiling at ASU but it's the safer choice for a guy like Bellotti right now since he only has five years left or so in the tank. The reason is AD's: Bellotti has known Byrne forever compared to Lisa Love who might be gone at any time.
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Agreed that ASU has long been lacking the Kush/Snyder brand. Sans the butt monkey in Cooper. I still remember ASU going down and THUMPING Miami.
Like Belotti, but much like DE, what's left in the take?
There's no reason ASU shouldn't compete for the South/Championship every 3-4yrs and to do that I believe you need a younger coach w/ fire and passion.
To do that you need a younger coach that understands the game.. Understands the UA rivalry, is able to motivate players so they're not push overs against SC, OR, etc.
I still remember the DE into preso and he looked like a whipped puppy.
It's time for a coach to bring back ASU football and resurrect this apathetic fan base.
Like Belotti, but much like DE, what's left in the take?
There's no reason ASU shouldn't compete for the South/Championship every 3-4yrs and to do that I believe you need a younger coach w/ fire and passion.
To do that you need a younger coach that understands the game.. Understands the UA rivalry, is able to motivate players so they're not push overs against SC, OR, etc.
I still remember the DE into preso and he looked like a whipped puppy.
It's time for a coach to bring back ASU football and resurrect this apathetic fan base.
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One thing I read about Bellotti is that he was either going to coach for just a handful more years or retire/do TV. That is very worrisome. I'd still hire him since he knows how to win out here but he's a hire you have to make with a successor on staff. That's difficult to do.
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I want Kevin Sumlin to be our coach. If he comes to ASU then maybe he can bring Jim Jeffcoat in to be our d-line coach or d coordinator. They worked together at Houston for a couple of years.
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Well.. Its Tuesday afternoon and DE is still our head coach...
I swear, if Erickson someone scams Love into an extension, I think every ASU booster on the planet needs to immediatly stop all payment and checks to the University..
Kindof hard to pay DE with no money...
Because it is the worst case scernio, and my entire sports life is in the toilet, it will be par for the course and I fully expect it to happen..
So depressing...
I swear, if Erickson someone scams Love into an extension, I think every ASU booster on the planet needs to immediatly stop all payment and checks to the University..
Kindof hard to pay DE with no money...
Because it is the worst case scernio, and my entire sports life is in the toilet, it will be par for the course and I fully expect it to happen..
So depressing...
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I think you nailed it. Erickson is a bump on a log. There is no excitement and it has our team underachieving. We need some passion to help us win those games that we are not supposed to win, and to be up for the ones we are supposed to win.
Hopefully combined with a great deal of competence so we can have better game planning and make adjustments.
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That must have been '97 - I really wouldn't put that up as a hallmark game figuring out Miami finished that season 5-6 and didn't beat a single team with more than 4 wins all year as they were reeling from sanctions
I wouldn't look at that game as the glory days
I don't think UCLA will fire Slick Rick at this point. Earlier in the season it looked like a sure deal, but now he's got his team in position to play for a chance at the Conference Title. Its been slower going there than there fans would've liked, but they seem to be trending in the right direction.
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The boosters are upset, believe me. The hate for Love has finally boiled over with the ASU Alumni, and the only reason why Erickson is still employed is due to the fact that a replacement is being found for Love, as we speak. Once the new AD is in place, Erickson will be fired, and they will decide who the new HC will be. I don't know any specific names yet, but the change should be made within a month.
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Good stuff. I have heard some of the same from people I talk with but not to that extent.
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I think that DE will be gone, but not until after the Cal game. With USC coming back strong, ASU can't afford to throw away their only chance at a Pac12 game for the next couple years. It isn't all that far fetched, USC must beat visiting UCLA (likely), Utah must beat Colorado (likely), and of course ASU must beat Cal (50/50 maybe).
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Boivin should just stop writing articles that have anything to do with recruiting...
She does realize a lame duck coach doesnt keep your recruits in town, right?
She does realize a lame duck coach doesnt keep your recruits in town, right?
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Just goes to show how weak the media is in AZ, they can never press the issue. Erickson's recruiting class this year is among the top 25 in the country, and if ASU wants to maintain that, they need to hire a well known coach. UofA's hire of RR puts a lot of pressure on ASU to make a big move, and there is a lot going on behind the scenes right now, so it will be interesting to see what direction they go in...
