Head Coach Candidates?

[Gaddabout]

As for Briles, I've read that his buyout is HUGE and will probably prevent him from leaving.

Tech wanted to hire him last year but he has a $4 million buyout clause.

 

[Gaddabout]

Dumb question, but with the influx of money the PAC 12 is now getting, why not go after a Urban Meyer? You can afford it now and the hiring would cause enough of a buzz to increase revenues, not to mention a untapped recruiting potential of the South East. For Meyer, a weak PAC 12 South would make him a instant winner.

1. Ohio State may be the only job that could lure him out of retirement. Well, that and Notre Dame.

2. Even with the financial boost, ASU would struggle to come up with half of what Meyer will command on an annual basis. I'm guessing he'll be the highest paid coach in America, college or pro. And his staff will command as much respect. I'm guessing $5 mil a year for Meyer and about half that a year for his staff.

 

[Gaddabout]

Thanks, interesting perspective. Rationale with Chryst? Thoughts on Leach?

On Leach:

1. For a program that wants so badly to be discussed on ESPN, you can't hire a coach that's in the middle of a lawsuit against them and is essentially persona non-grata with the network.

2. Stability counts. Leach is not stable. He's a nut job.

I will give you this: If your primary goal is to win the press conference and sell season tickets, that's your guy.

For me, I care enough about defense that it's enough for me to turn my nose up at him.

On Chryst:

I met Geep Chryst in 1998 while covering the Cardinals, when he had been promoted to QBs coach from tight ends. He turned Plummer into a legitimate NFL QB. It was such a dramatic change, I had to talk to Chryst about it. When Chryst left the next year for the Chargers, Plummer reverted back to his enigmatic form. He's now working his QB guru magic with Alex Smith. People are heaping praise on Harbaugh, but I think Chryst is the real miracle worker there.

While talking to Geep, he said he felt his brother, Paul, was going to be the future head coach. Paul just had ... that special thing, and he was a details/organization kind of guy with same family ability to teach. I've been following the guy's career ever since, and after watching what he's done to consistently improve the Wisconsin offense since taking over 2006, I'm a believer. PC is a recruiter, organizer, teacher, x's and o's guy ... he's the whole package. He's also an amazing evaluator of talent, especially at the tight end position (which is his area of specialty).

 

[Gaddabout]

ASU is screwed.

Never before has the gap at every prominent positon (AD, Bball HC, and Football HC)in a Athletic Department been so pronounced between the two schools. I was concerned RichRod was going to end up at ASU but I am sure glad we struck first.

The irony is as big of a chasm as there is between Sean Miller and Herb Sendek, there maybe an even bigger one between Greg Byrne and Lisa Love. And I am not sure there is a hire out there that can close that gap.

I would make the argument Arizona has the best young AD and best young basketball coach in the NATION.

Rich Rod (at 48) and anything he does is just icing on the cake and to me he was the perfect hire for our program.

Good luck ASU but I am guessing last Saturdays game was just the tip of the iceberg in terms of problems for you and the fan base.

You sound so concerned here, I almost didn't notice you gagging on your own insincerity. Passive-aggressive flaming is the lamest kind.

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[Dback Jon]

On Leach:

1. For a program that wants so badly to be discussed on ESPN, you can't hire a coach that's in the middle of a lawsuit against them and is essentially persona non-grata with the network.

2. Stability counts. Leach is not stable. He's a nut job.

I will give you this: If your primary goal is to win the press conference and sell season tickets, that's your guy.

For me, I care enough about defense that it's enough for me to turn my nose up at him.

On Chryst:

I met Geep Chryst in 1998 while covering the Cardinals, when he had been promoted to QBs coach from tight ends. He turned Plummer into a legitimate NFL QB. It was such a dramatic change, I had to talk to Chryst about it. When Chryst left the next year for the Chargers, Plummer reverted back to his enigmatic form. He's now working his QB guru magic with Alex Smith. People are heaping praise on Harbaugh, but I think Chryst is the real miracle worker there.

While talking to Geep, he said he felt his brother, Paul, was going to be the future head coach. Paul just had ... that special thing, and he was a details/organization kind of guy with same family ability to teach. I've been following the guy's career ever since, and after watching what he's done to consistently improve the Wisconsin offense since taking over 2006, I'm a believer. PC is a recruiter, organizer, teacher, x's and o's guy ... he's the whole package. He's also an amazing evaluator of talent, especially at the tight end position (which is his area of specialty).

So we hire Paul, on the condition that Geep is his OC. Smith reverts to suckage, ASU wins, Cardinals win.

 

[Gaddabout]

So we hire Paul, on the condition that Geep is his OC. Smith reverts to suckage, ASU wins, Cardinals win.

It's a plan!

I was actually thinking Geep as Cards HC

 

[HooverDam]

"Geep"? How do you pronounce that? Is it like how it looks? Or is it "Jeep" or....?

 

[Gaddabout]

"Geep"? How do you pronounce that? Is it like how it looks? Or is it "Jeep" or....?

Pronounced "Geep." You got it. I never asked him. Always assumed it was a Wisconsin thing.

 

[HooverDam]

Pronounced "Geep." You got it. I never asked him. Always assumed it was a Wisconsin thing.

It always throws me when a family has one kid with an odd name (Geep) and another with a plain one (Paul). "Oh hello, have you met my children? Superfly and Bob?" Seems like you'd either go all oddball name or all normal name as a parent.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

When we were in search mode I heard that Chryst hoped to one day go back to the NFL and that he viewed jobs such as Arizona as more of a stepping stone. I'd imagine the same would be the case for ASU. But yeah, he's much better than Sumlin in my opinion. Not to mention I doubt Sumlin leaves them before the BCS game they likely end up in so you're looking at a mid-January hire. Leach is not a sane person. If I was ASU I'd just go get Ron English, put a bunch of money into his surrounding staff, and go from there.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

ASU is screwed.

Never before has the gap at every prominent positon (AD, Bball HC, and Football HC)in a Athletic Department been so pronounced between the two schools. I was concerned RichRod was going to end up at ASU but I am sure glad we struck first.

The irony is as big of a chasm as there is between Sean Miller and Herb Sendek, there maybe an even bigger one between Greg Byrne and Lisa Love. And I am not sure there is a hire out there that can close that gap.

I would make the argument Arizona has the best young AD and best young basketball coach in the NATION.

Rich Rod (at 48) and anything he does is just icing on the cake and to me he was the perfect hire for our program.

Good luck ASU but I am guessing last Saturdays game was just the tip of the iceberg in terms of problems for you and the fan base.

Unfortunately Byrne won't be in Tucson long-term. This is a stepping stone job for him, I think he wants to end up in professional sports.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Utah losing to Colorado in the 4th. Just missed a field goal that would have tied it. Wow.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

And now Utah fumbles on the drive they needed a score on. 4 minutes left. Nope of any PAC 12 Title game now, and no hope for Erickson's job whatsoever.

 

[Gaddabout]

When we were in search mode I heard that Chryst hoped to one day go back to the NFL and that he viewed jobs such as Arizona as more of a stepping stone. I'd imagine the same would be the case for ASU.

I'm perfectly OK with that. I *want* coaches like that. Coaches like that tend to win. If they want to come here and start a winning tradition then go someplace else, they can leave their best two or three assistants behind and keep it going.

I think both schools suffer from a poor perception, that coaches come here to kill their careers. It doesn't have to be the case, but I don't think either program is in the position to demand the hire be successful AND long-term. The second portion of that is serendipity in this day and age, not something you can project with any candidate. Just ask Hawaii with June Jones. You can still ruin a good thing even with a homeboy.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

OK hold on, Utah will have the ball back with about 3 minutes left.

 

[azsportsfan01]

I'm perfectly OK with that. I *want* coaches like that. Coaches like that tend to win. If they want to come here and start a winning tradition then go someplace else, they can leave their best two or three assistants behind and keep it going.

I think both schools suffer from a poor perception, that coaches come here to kill their careers. It doesn't have to be the case, but I don't think either program is in the position to demand the hire be successful AND long-term. The second portion of that is serendipity in this day and age, not something you can project with any candidate. Just ask Hawaii with June Jones. You can still ruin a good thing even with a homeboy.

I agree. If he wants to view ASU as a stepping stone and actually acts on it it means he has the program winning. It would then be easier to get a new coach to build upon whats already been built.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

And the Utah kicker misses his 3rd field goal of the day. That's OK. ASU doesn't deserve to be in the title game anyway.

 

[HooverDam]

Ug, Im not even going to bother to stay up to watch the ASU game tonight now that its meaningless (it starts 10:15 here). Im sure ASU is just going to lay down anyhow. Erickson better be fired in the morning so the search can begin.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I'm perfectly OK with that. I *want* coaches like that. Coaches like that tend to win. If they want to come here and start a winning tradition then go someplace else, they can leave their best two or three assistants behind and keep it going.

I know what you're saying but it's not exactly a trait that an AD or whoever is running a coaching search is looking for.

 

[Renz]

UCLA can win the South, play in the PAC-12 title game, and still end up not being bowl eligible.

If the Bruins lose to USC and then lose the PAC-12 title game they will be 6-7 and ineligible for a bowl due to a losing record. LOL.

Too bad SC got probation. An Oregon/USC title game would have been good for the conference.

 

[Gaddabout]

I know what you're saying but it's not exactly a trait that an AD or whoever is running a coaching search is looking for.

You're probably right. I could also care less about the perception of that first press conference, but that's all ADs seem to care about.

People have been saying Kirk Ferentz is going to the NFL for years. Iowa threw enough money at him (way too much for what they get in return, IMO) and he's entrenched. You never know how a coach's personal life is going to change 5 years into a deal. I'm sure Florida fans are still baffled over what happened to Urban Meyer.

 

[TJ]

On Leach:

1. For a program that wants so badly to be discussed on ESPN, you can't hire a coach that's in the middle of a lawsuit against them and is essentially persona non-grata with the network.

2. Stability counts. Leach is not stable. He's a nut job.

I will give you this: If your primary goal is to win the press conference and sell season tickets, that's your guy.

For me, I care enough about defense that it's enough for me to turn my nose up at him.

This is exactly why I didnt want Leach in Tucson.

The majority of my fellow alum were desperate for him but didn't realize how parasitic he was. They look at his overall record and dynamic offenses, but fail to see the overall body of work and how much of a liability he could be.

You hire Leach, you are almost assuredly not going to get any games televised on ESPN or ABC due to the lawsuit.

There is a reason he hasn't coached since 2009; yet, his teams have averaged nine wins per season. His baggage makes Rich Rod's look like a nap sack by comparison.

And like you said, he is completely unstable. Here is an example (explicit language):



And you can always count on him blaming his players' fat girlfriends when they lose.



Stay far away....

 

[Gaddabout]

Pretty sure if you hire Leach, you're required to make Gary Busey honoroary AD.

 

[TJ]

Pretty sure if you hire Leach, you're required to make Gary Busey honoroary AD.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Leach and Burfict would make quite the pair. Those two could employ an army of shrinks just by themselves.