Heat @ Suns 12-7-18

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I agree, why call up the two-way players unless there is an expectation they are going to play. With King it could be a reward type thing but the Suns really need help at point guard. It would have been nice to see Evans play for a few minutes. I'm anxious to see what he brings to the game.

Practice. It allows the coaches a first hand opportunity to observe and work with them. I wouldn’t assume call ups should indicate plying unless it’s okobo and Melton ping ponging back and forth.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Kings played well but hasn't play in a week or more. Injury I believe, He was playing better then Jackson in G league.

 

[1tinsoldier]

We have to find a way to draft Zion and put him next to Ayton. With tbe way our season is going we should have best odds for the #1 pick.

we can be no better than being one of 3 teams with the best odds
and
odds are better that none of the 3 get the #1 pick

 

[sdscard4]

Yeah have a whole lineup of 1-15 picks and still suck to holy hell

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yeah have a whole lineup of 1-15 picks and still suck to holy hell

Yes we have a 1, two 4's, an 8 and a 10 but the average draft position for our current roster is 26. Compare our top picks to the Lakers for example who have a 1, four 2's and an 8. And the real problem, our 3 highest picks are 21 or under.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yes we have a 1, two 4's, an 8 and a 10 but the average draft position for our current roster is 26. Compare our top picks to the Lakers for example who have a 1, four 2's and an 8. And the real problem, our 3 highest picks are 21 or under.

Are you counting Daniels as a 61st pick? He was undrafted so I couldn't figure out how to add him to the average. The average is 22 if you exclude Daniels.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Are you counting Daniels as a 61st pick? He was undrafted so I couldn't figure out how to add him to the average. The average is 22 if you exclude Daniels.

Sure, I think calling all undrafted players 61 is about the only way to do it. It makes more sense than just excluding the player especially if you choose to compare rosters. And I had every intention of comparing our roster to others until I realized I just didn't care enough about this issue to put that kind of work in.

 

[BC867]

And the question remains . . . was that his decision . . . or his Coach wanting him to stay in the game?.

I agree that it's a combination but that doesn't seem to be how BC saw it with the way he worded his last post, questioning if it's his decision or if he's following the coaches instructions...

He's been used as more of a PF than C so far even though he's not sharing the floor with a C. He's playing in the high post offensively and facing up his man more often than posting up.

I don't get it, PH. I raised the question if how Ayton has been playing is his or the Coach's doing, even though I have my own opinion. And you respond by saying, "He's been used as more of a PF than C so far..."

Which answers my question. How Ayton has been playing is the Coach's decision. Which is also my opinion.

Aren't we saying the same thing? Whose decision? The Coach's decision.

Or, to put it another way, the Coach's mistake, playing him up to 23 feet from the basket on offense, setting picks at the 3-point line, nowhere near the basket on a pick & roll. Especially without an NBA quality distributor to feed him.

 

[Superbone]

Yeah, I had to laugh when the announcer called it a 50-50 ball. It was a 99 - 1 ball in our favor and we stood around flat footed and watched it bounce 47 times to a surprised Miami Heat player. We all but gift wrapped it and it led to a 3 IIRC.

This has been the most frustrating thing to me lately. Suns just aren't getting defensive rebounds. The opponent often gets 2 or 3 attempts each time down. Suns are always one and done.

 

[Hoop Head]

I don't get it, PH. I raised the question if how Ayton has been playing is his or the Coach's doing, even though I have my own opinion. And you respond by saying, "He's been used as more of a PF than C so far..."

Which answers my question. How Ayton has been playing is the Coach's decision. Which is also my opinion.

Aren't we saying the same thing? Whose decision? The Coach's decision.

Or, to put it another way, the Coach's mistake, playing him up to 23 feet from the basket on offense, setting picks at the 3-point line, nowhere near the basket on a pick & roll. Especially without an NBA quality distributor to feed him.

It's sort of chicken or the egg question. Is Ayton soft because Kokoskov plays him that way or is Kokoskov playing him that way because he's soft?

From your recent post I'm taking that as you believe it's Kokoskov that has Ayton playing soft rather than Ayton himself just being soft. I think it's a combination of the 2. Ayton isn't strong or determined enough to be an interior weapon right now. That isn't how Kokoskov is using him either. I'm not sure why he's not using him that way but I think that falls more on Ayton than Igor.

 

[BC867]

It's sort of chicken or the egg question. Is Ayton soft because Kokoskov plays him that way or is Kokoskov playing him that way because he's soft?

From your recent post I'm taking that as you believe it's Kokoskov that has Ayton playing soft rather than Ayton himself just being soft. I think it's a combination of the 2. Ayton isn't strong or determined enough to be an interior weapon right now. That isn't how Kokoskov is using him either. I'm not sure why he's not using him that way but I think that falls more on Ayton than Igor.

I agree with you that it is on both of them. But I also think that it is comparable to a father-son situation.

It is the responsibility of the Head Coach to teach the player more than for an NBA rookie to have it inherently in his system.

That was my mindset in helping raise two sons.

 

[1Sun]

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[Mainstreet]

Practice. It allows the coaches a first hand opportunity to observe and work with them. I wouldn’t assume call ups should indicate plying unless it’s okobo and Melton ping ponging back and forth.

I think bringing up Evans where he has a chance to practice before a game is more ideal. If Evans wows, I don't want to waste eligibility.