Here we go: GSW, MIN and CLE show interest in Amare

[Ronin]

ramon Sessions anyone?

Yes please!

 

[tobiazz]

What exactly is the point of trading for Rubio? If I remember correctly, he already said he is not coming to the NBA any time soon.

He just didn't want to be on the Wolves. I believe he was hoping for Sac to draft him. I'm not sure if he would like coming to the Suns in a year or two.

If he were, it would be good to have him come over in a couple of years so that we could get 1-2 lottery picks in the meantime. I'm not a major Rubio fan though.

I would rather go the route of getting a bunch of young, long defenders and then being terrible for a couple of years to draft a scoring Messiah.

 

[joshstmarie]

Hickson and Powe are future role players in this league, how could you think of them as great pieces, omfg.

"OMFG" Before powe wrecked his knee he was considered one of the celtics key future pieces. They had to let him go because of cap implications. Celtics fans absolutely loved him.

Hickson has shown improvement and even earned 20 minutes per game on a team that has championship aspirations in only his 2nd season. You cant say what he is or isnt yet.


On top of all this all these contracts will have expired by the time nashs extension runs out. So we will either we will have a crap ton of cap space or a couple of nice bigs we can build around.

 

[krazyasiankid]

I would rather go the route of getting a bunch of young, long defenders and then being terrible for a couple of years to draft a scoring Messiah.

. Good luck to our F.O for doing that. They'll probably sell the picks so Sarver can buy himself a nice new Rolex or something.

 

[slinslin]

Rubio is a pretty good defender for his age in europe and he is long.

In a fantasy scenario where we get him why not get him over as quick as possible and suck a couple of years with him, surely that would progress him more if he gets playing time.

 

[slinslin]

"OMFG" Before powe wrecked his knee he was considered one of the celtics key future pieces. They had to let him go because of cap implications. Celtics fans absolutely loved him.

Hickson has shown improvement and even earned 20 minutes per game on a team that has championship aspirations in only his 2nd season. You cant say what he is or isnt yet.


On top of all this all these contracts will have expired by the time nashs extension runs out. So we will either we will have a crap ton of cap space or a couple of nice bigs we can build around.

Powe is the definition of future role player. He is 6'8 that is not "big". He blew out his knee already. If he was a key piece for the Celtics they wouldn't let him go.

Suns fans also love Amundson, doesn't mean he is any good to rebuild around.

 

[tobiazz]

Corey Brewer is a bust. Maybe he turns it around he has some talent but he has no value at this point.

Rubio, their 2 mid first rounders and filler contracts would be my expectation for anything Minnesota can offer.

I wouldn't be able to say no to that. It's time to gather a bunch of youth and see who pans out.

And with Rubio here, the Suns could possibly keep Nash until Rubio comes over because it doesn't seem like they want to trade the face of the franchise unless Nash really wants to go somewhere else. The list of teams that would give up much for Nash is rather slim however. Of course, if Ray Allen could garner a #5 pick, why can't the (sort of) ageless Nash do so?

 

[cly2tw]

No way Amare want's to stay in Min. He is not the franchise player to carry a whole team by himself. He needs to be paired with a dominant perimeter scorer to have best impact on the game, like Ellis, Rose, Paul, Wade, Durant, JJ, and Mayo.

 

[joshstmarie]

Ok amares not going to resign with the wolves so we can forget that.

 

[krazyasiankid]

Rubio is a pretty good defender for his age in europe and he is long.

In a fantasy scenario where we get him why not get him over as quick as possible and suck a couple of years with him, surely that would progress him more if he gets playing time.

Like I said, by "sucking" you mean getting high draft picks at the end of the season? And this is going with the illusion that the Suns can actually draft a good player?

 

[slinslin]

For what it is worth one guy on the Suns realgm board with 24k posts and supposed "contacts" wrote this a couple days ago..

warriors pushing hard....

biedrins, curry, randolph - plus expirings of claxton and raja bell -for amare and barbosa - maybe clark too

claxton and bell would be waived, along with collins or taylor griffin to keep us at the minimum

hmmmmmmmm

 

[slinslin]

Ok amares not going to resign with the wolves so we can forget that.

If the Suns can sign Amare to a 3yrs/60M$ extension right now they can trade him to anyone. Questionable if they can get Amare extended though. Guess why they are meeting with his agent this week? mmm

 

[elindholm]

For what it is worth one guy on the Suns realgm board with 24k posts and supposed "contacts" wrote this a couple days ago..

biedrins, curry, randolph - plus expirings of claxton and raja bell -for amare and barbosa - maybe clark too

Suns need a pick and they keep Clark. Otherwise it's okay. I'd be satisfied to get Biedrins.

 

[tobiazz]

Ok amares not going to resign with the wolves so we can forget that.

MINN may not care, but only if they send us Jefferson, since it sounds like they may like to get out of that deal. Trading for Jefferson seems pointless as he has had bad injuries, is not much younger than Amare, and is even less explosive than post-micro Stoudemire.

Jefferson would only make sense if the Suns also traded Nash to NJ for Harris. NJ would have Nash the Distributor to help lure LBJ, etc. The Suns would have a fast, driving PG with Rolo and Jefferson to crash the boards. I would'n be too excited by that, but there would be some logic to it.

 

[joshstmarie]

Powe is the definition of future role player. He is 6'8 that is not "big". He blew out his knee already. If he was a key piece for the Celtics they wouldn't let him go.

Suns fans also love Amundson, doesn't mean he is any good to rebuild around.

As I said, he was injured and they couldnt afford him. Im not saying the dude is going to be a future allstar but if he turned into a 15/10 guy with more PT (which isnt unrealistic considering he did 7/5 in 17mpg) along with hickson who looks like hes a pretty high ceiling as well.

 

[slinslin]

I wouldn't want any part of Biedrins and his contract, I can live with Lopez as our center for rebuilding.

I am also not too fond of Curry although he will be a pretty good player eventually. I don't know if I would rather have Biedrins and Curry or Ellis.

Definately don't want to give up Clark.

Amare/JRich/Dudley/Amundson for Jefferson/Brewer/Blount/Cardinal and the rights to Rubio. A little big and maybe too good for us value wise.

 

[tobiazz]

For what it is worth one guy on the Suns realgm board with 24k posts and supposed "contacts" wrote this a couple days ago..

warriors pushing hard....

biedrins, curry, randolph - plus expirings of claxton and raja bell -for amare and barbosa - maybe clark too

claxton and bell would be waived, along with collins or taylor griffin to keep us at the minimum

hmmmmmmmm

What!? After offering (allegedly) just Biedrins, the non-Curry pick, and Wright for Amare before. I like that, but it sounds impossible.

EDIT: I missed the mention of Clark. I'm not sure his shooting will ever come around, but he will be our best defender in a year or two. He may end up being better than Randolph.

Some points:

1. Amare thought GSW giving up Biedrins for himself would be a bit much before. Perhaps Amare would not want to go there without a great rebounder to help ease his load.

2. We don't know for sure if GSW reneged on the draft day trade or if Kerr was too incompetent to finalize the deal before GS picked. Maybe the Suns didn't know GS was hot for Curry and cheered without realizing that was a player that GS hoped would fall to them. My instinct says GS screwed the Suns, but I don't think anyone has said for sure.

3. Has Nellie already fallen out of love with Curry?

 

[Blackification]

Jefferson complained about Love taking all his rebounds so they probably have chemistry issues.

 

[cly2tw]

What!? After offering (allegedly) just Biedrins, the non-Curry pick, and Wright for Amare before. I like that, but it sounds impossible.

EDIT: I missed the mention of Clark. I'm not sure his shooting will ever come around, but he will be our best defender in a year or two. He may end up being better than Randolph.

Some points:

1. Amare thought GSW giving up Biedrins for himself would be a bit much before. Perhaps Amare would not want to go there without a great rebounder to help ease his load.

2. We don't know for sure if GSW reneged on the draft day trade or if Kerr was too incompetent to finalize the deal before GS picked. Maybe the Suns didn't know GS was hot for Curry and cheered without realizing that was a player that GS hoped would fall to them. My instinct says GS screwed the Suns, but I don't think anyone has said for sure.

3. Has Nellie already fallen out of love with Curry?

The issue then was uncertainties, 1. about Amare's health and how he recovers and 2. about how Ellis gets out of all the negative reports surrounding him.

Now GS realizes that Ellis is the keeper and Maggette could behave well as the 2nd or 3rd option. They'd take the risk on Amare by giving us whatever they have and Amare would want to resign there to team up with Ellis and Maggette. Also, meanwhile, I believe Biedrins has regressed a bit maybe partially due to constant small injuries. Hence, the offers and demands have changed considerably. Simple as that.

 

[jagu]

Jefferson complained about Love taking all his rebounds so they probably have chemistry issues.

Amare would fit right in then, he would never be in a position to steal rebounds over Love anyway.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Biedrins has not regressed he is just stagnant and has met his ceiling IMO... He has been pretty much the same player since he's been in the league and he is what he is and that is it...

I just dont see the Dubs parting with AB, Curry, and Randolph... I'd say its two of them and it would most likely be AB and Randolph...

 

[carey]

I'm pretty sure if Randolph and Curry were offered he'd be traded already.

 

[cly2tw]

Suns need a pick and they keep Clark. Otherwise it's okay. I'd be satisfied to get Biedrins.

With Randolph on board, I don't think we really have time to develop Clark. Besides, with the core of Amare/Ellis/Maggette set, GS should be confident that they wouldn't need their picks anyway. Two picks from them might be accepted too.

 

[AsUdUdE]

For what it is worth one guy on the Suns realgm board with 24k posts and supposed "contacts" wrote this a couple days ago..

If there is ANY SEMBLENCE OF THIS TRADE... I would drop down and worship Kerr/Sarver, forgiving them of EVERYTHING they have done to screw up the suns...

Too bad that trade in some dude living in fantasyland, there is no well in hell that that trade goes through...

which sucks...

 

[slinslin]

I would rather get their lottery pick for that chance at John Wall than Curry.

I also think that just Biedrins and Randolph would be way too little.

Randolph's value is down since the offseason too.

I also think that Biedrins value is limited due to his contract and the Suns might be reluctant to take him on.