Heroes: Season 2 (SPOILERS! Beware)

[TBaslim]

An ok mini-finale. At least it moved faster then some of the previous episodes. B / B-

Actually, the writer's strike and the downtime it forces might be good for the show.

I really think the creative team broke down this year. Maybe too much pressure being the GE/NBC 'ratings hero'. Maybe too much online/alternate content creation sapping creative focus.

All I do know is they really need to circle the wagons and come up with some plot threads that they can stick with over a season or two, in and amongst the episodic trials and tribulations. Waaaay too all over the place in the last 11 shows.

Another thing - a great part of the show might be it's downfall.

It is so willing to accelerate the plots...characters killed, entire story arcs played out in an episode or two. Very gratifying and great for awhile, but now I'm left wanting more substance. Kind of like dessert.

Shows can go too far to either side. More often they make the mistake of dragging out plot threads forever, with no reveal, with no viewer rewards. XFiles and Lost at their worst were like this.

On the other hand, you have to build some emotional investment and substance with the audience. It can't all be dessert. Heroes needs to move back in that direction, without loosing its uniqueness. They had some nice moments last year. Not so much this year.

Oh, and don't ya love the 'online, live action' version of the show they plugged tonight?

Hmmmm...why online? Cause then they don't have to pay the Writer's Guild!

What's that phrase? "stay classy NBC...stay classy!"

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I thought it was a great episode, outside of Mohinder not being killed

 

[Louis]

Why can Peter and Adam die from a shot to the head?

Noah came back to life after receiving Claire's blood. I assume her regenerative powers are the same as Adam's. We know they are the same as Peters.

We've also seen Claire suffer a "mortal" head wound.

Also why do the people at Primatech totally not give a hoot. And I mean the workers loading and unloading paper. First a fight involving a guy with a sword and guy with lightning bolts in his palms. Then Hiro getting ko'd. Then 2 more guys coming in.

Nobody ever attempts to stop them. Nobody stops loading paper. Primatech pwns Dunder-Mifflin.

 

[arthurracoon]

good episode

 

[earthsci]

But I just want to say that the writers seemed to have completely thrown out any continuity in the plot.

Dude. The writer's strike threw out the continuity in the plot. This season was supposed to be about 15 more episodes. That would screw up the writing for any show.

 

[earthsci]

What happened to Adam is creepy. Very. That is forever alive.

Can the healers suffocate or drown?

 

[Chaz]

What happened to Adam is creepy. Very. That is forever alive.

Can the healers suffocate or drown?

I was wondering about starvation.



All things considered it was a pretty good wrap up of Volume 2.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I am 99% sure that he put Adam in Hiro's father's coffin.

 

[phxrising]

I am 99% sure that he put Adam in Hiro's father's coffin.

No way, just seems too disrespectful for him to do that.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

No way, just seems too disrespectful for him to do that.

Watch it again and see where the grave site is compared to where his father was buried. I would call it poetic justice.

 

[earthsci]

Watch it again and see where the grave site is compared to where his father was buried. I would call it poetic justice.

His father was buried next to Hiro's mom, which was up the hill in the background.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

His father was buried next to Hiro's mom, which was up the hill in the background.

I know but it was the same columns, fresh dirt, ect...

It is a freshly dug asian family grave. Do you think Hiro put him in someone else's grave? Do you think Hiro dug it himself, decorated it himself, ect...

 

[earthsci]

I know but it was the same columns, fresh dirt, ect...

It is a freshly dug asian family grave. Do you think Hiro put him in someone else's grave? Do you think Hiro dug it himself, decorated it himself, ect...

Gotcha. It's wierd because wouldn't the body, any body, be in that casket with him?

 

[Heucrazy]

Why can Peter and Adam die from a shot to the head?

Noah came back to life after receiving Claire's blood. I assume her regenerative powers are the same as Adam's. We know they are the same as Peters.

We've also seen Claire suffer a "mortal" head wound.

Also why do the people at Primatech totally not give a hoot. And I mean the workers loading and unloading paper. First a fight involving a guy with a sword and guy with lightning bolts in his palms. Then Hiro getting ko'd. Then 2 more guys coming in.

Nobody ever attempts to stop them. Nobody stops loading paper. Primatech pwns Dunder-Mifflin.

They can't die from being shot in the head they can die from having their head cut off.

 

[earthsci]

They can't die from being shot in the head they can die from having their head cut off.

The mother of the year did say that the only way to get rid of Peter was a shot to the head.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I can't believe some of you thought it was a good episode, I thought it was utter trash

Horrible plot holes, meaningless plots...etc.

I wrote about it on my blog, but seriously.

THe entire time, Peter could have read Adam's mind and knew what was going on, but never did? Why not?

Anyways...it was awful :0

 

[Heucrazy]

The mother of the year did say that the only way to get rid of Peter was a shot to the head.

Adam said the only thing there was "no coming back from" was having your head cut off.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I can't believe some of you thought it was a good episode, I thought it was utter trash

Horrible plot holes, meaningless plots...etc.

I wrote about it on my blog, but seriously.

THe entire time, Peter could have read Adam's mind and knew what was going on, but never did? Why not?

Anyways...it was awful :0

Have we ever seen Peter actually read minds? Peter is like a blunt object. He lacks any precision with his powers. The only ones he uses well are the ones he relies on constantly, namely telekinesis and electricity.

In fact, nearly everything Peter does is instinctual. He sorta can travel through time, but not like Hiro. He can sorta protect himself from Parkman, but can't come close to doing what Parkman does. While the other Heroes spend their time honing their one ability, Peter bounces to whatever fits, never mastering any.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Have we ever seen Peter actually read minds? Peter is like a blunt object. He lacks any precision with his powers. The only ones he uses well are the ones he relies on constantly, namely telekinesis and electricity.

In fact, nearly everything Peter does is instinctual. He sorta can travel through time, but not like Hiro. He can sorta protect himself from Parkman, but can't come close to doing what Parkman does. While the other Heroes spend their time honing their one ability, Peter bounces to whatever fits, never mastering any.

A jack of all trades, master of none, yes?

I'm not sure if Adam is in Hiro's dad's coffin, but he may be in a different coffin other than that of Hiro's dad. It didn't look like there was another body in there, but who knows? Part of me wonders if Hiro traveled back and screwed with time, yet again, and saved his father in spite of his wishes. I doubt it since they tied that who story line up nicely, but who knows?

I thought it was a good ending to things. Am not sad to see Nikki go. And bummed about Nathan. Do you guys think he'll really be totally dead? I mean, Peter saw Adam save Nathan before. Any chance he tries to save him with his own (Peter's) blood? Any chance he seeks out Claire?

My final thought is that Peter and Nathan's mom is one cold-hearted ******.

 

[Joe Mama]

So Peter can blow up in a thermonuclear explosion, but if he gets shot in the head or gets his head cut off that's it, he's dead? I was asking why Hiro didn't just take Adam to a Turkish prison or the moon when he initially froze time and saw that it was Adam killing his father.



Joe

 

[Chris_Sanders]

So Peter can blow up in a thermonuclear explosion, but if he gets shot in the head or gets his head cut off that's it, he's dead? I was asking why Hiro didn't just take Adam to a Turkish prison or the moon when he initially froze time and saw that it was Adam killing his father.



Joe

Because his father asked him to leave him to his fate. After that Hiro was free to seek his vengeance and did.

Peter's "explosion" is much like the Human Torch when he goes nova blast. The energy emits from him not through him.

If Hiro teleported anyone to the moon he would die immediately.

 

[Louis]

And bummed about Nathan. Do you guys think he'll really be totally dead? I mean, Peter saw Adam save Nathan before. Any chance he tries to save him with his own (Peter's) blood? Any chance he seeks out Claire?

My final thought is that Peter and Nathan's mom is one cold-hearted ******.

Peter knows he aborbs powers right?

So wouldn't he use his blood and give it to Nathan?

Or Claire now knows her blood saved Noah. Nathan's assassination is public knowledge. Wouldn't she just call?

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Also why does a shot to the head kill Peter/Adam, yet a shot to the head to Noah doesn't mean the end of him because he got blood from somebody who can regenerate?

 

[phxrising]

Anyone else think Noah killed Nathen?

 

[Gaddabout]

I know of only one person that could answer these questions:

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[Chris_Sanders]

Anyone else think Noah killed Nathen?

Absolutely.