Hightower loses starting job or Whis loses credibility

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I know most NFL teams have a running backs coach.

The Cardinals might want to think about investing in one...
 
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I seriously start Wright next week if he can manage not to fumble at some point between now and then.
 

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But Shane, do you see the talent that Beanie has?

Can you just concede that TH should be the permanent back up?

I have always seen Well's talent. Problem is his overall YPC is less than Timmy. That's how you judge a RB. Plus timmy is far and away a better pass catcher and protector. So no he shouldn't be benched!
 

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You guys are all full of it. Sorry but wells has more fumbles than Hightower he has just been insanely lucky that they werent recovered by the D like Timmy's. So if you wanna bench him for pure running ability fine. But to say it's cus of fumbles you are all hypocrites!

I know I know you guys are gonna come back and say Beanie doesn't have more fumbles based on the stats. Well luckily for beanie neither of his dropped pitch passes were logged as fumbles even though they are. Also had another fumble that wasn't logged as well.
You are probably the only one on this board who is in immense love with Hightower... we can understand. But his fumbles have hurt the team, Beanie's hasn't as much.
 

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No way Whis, if he wants to remain credible, can let Hightower continue as starter. Edge was benched for less last year and Hightower's got fumbilitis in his head now.

Stop dicking around with the Wells isn't starter game-playing and just make the move. The time is now. If both of them are going to be fumble risks, there's no reason not to start the much more explosive Wells.

Put Hightower back in the situational/relief role where he belongs.

I would like to nomiminate this for the most ridiculous post of the season!!!! You just exposed yourself !
 

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You are probably the only one on this board who is in immense love with Hightower... we can understand. But his fumbles have hurt the team, Beanie's hasn't as much.

I'm not in love with him. Do very much like what he brings to the table I do with Wells too.. As far as you last sentence? Thats luck and nothing else. Wells has had luck with his teamates being in the right spot. Timmy not so much.
 

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I have always seen Well's talent. Problem is his overall YPC is less than Timmy. That's how you judge a RB. Plus timmy is far and away a better pass catcher and protector. So no he shouldn't be benched!

Shane there is no reason to argue with these people! They love beanie and hate Hightower.............period! Anytime THT does something great they say how much better it would have been if Beanie had the ball. Anytime THT does something bad they say how Beanie would not have done that. Anytime Beanie does something bad they say he just need to be in there to improve. Bottom line is they are not objective! They wont see that the combo of THT and BW has been working. They would rather this team lose games and Beanie get the start and bulk of carries. Well BW has had the bulk of the carries this season and THT has out produced him. But who cares!!! they both have been productive and are BOTH averaging over 4 ypc !

I am getting sick of this BW b@lls licking personally!
 

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Beanie is 100x more talented than THT with the ball but it doesn't matter if they both fumble.... damnit
 

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At this point, arguing in favor of either one is kind of hard to do. Of all the 7 turnovers we made, those two fumbles hurt the worst of all. We can't really count on either one in big games to take care of the ball.

Are we even sure they are different people? Notice how they are never in the game at the same time?
 

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Shane there is no reason to argue with these people! They love beanie and hate Hightower.............period! Anytime THT does something great they say how much better it would have been if Beanie had the ball. Anytime THT does something bad they say how Beanie would not have done that. Anytime Beanie does something bad they say he just need to be in there to improve. Bottom line is they are not objective! They wont see that the combo of THT and BW has been working. They would rather this team lose games and Beanie get the start and bulk of carries. Well BW has had the bulk of the carries this season and THT has out produced him. But who cares!!! they both have been productive and are BOTH averaging over 4 ypc !

I am getting sick of this BW b@lls licking personally!

Good stuff!
 

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Beanie is 100x more talented than THT with the ball but it doesn't matter if they both fumble.... damnit


13 games in and the bulk of the carries and he doesnt produce more than the less talented THT? please explain!!
 

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At this point, arguing in favor of either one is kind of hard to do. Of all the 7 turnovers we made, those two fumbles hurt the worst of all. We can't really count on either one in big games to take care of the ball.

Are we even sure they are different people? Notice how they are never in the game at the same time?

:lmao:

That's funny right there!
 

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Hightower and Wells both fumble through great effort at least..who will learn quickest and best to hold on yo the ball?
 
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At this point, arguing in favor of either one is kind of hard to do. Of all the 7 turnovers we made, those two fumbles hurt the worst of all. We can't really count on either one in big games to take care of the ball.

Are we even sure they are different people? Notice how they are never in the game at the same time?
You are right... Beanie's essentially killed whatever little hope we had left which wasn't much.

Three freakin' lost fumbles inside or near the 20 yard line... unbelievable

I like TH, but his fumbles just have been at the worst possible times and place...
 

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TH had the same fumble problem last year but he got away with it because we recovered them.
But if we are going to bench players for fumbling we have Q LSH BW KW and TH on the bench for the next game....personally I think a little credit has to go to the 9ers D they went after the ball at every opportunity and it paid off BIG for them
Don't get me wrong these fumbles are unacceptable and we have to get this cleared up but what we don't need is a scapegoat
 

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They both need to quit fumbling but i'm giving SF credit for those fumbles. Both guys had the ball in good position but the SF defenders made good plays and put their helmets right on the ball. I'd say 95% of the RB's out there would have fumbled on those hits. Unless you want the guys to run with both arms around the ball, those 2 plays are going to be fumbles. Now Warner's 2 int's are something that should've never happened.

It was nice to see Beanie get in a rhythm and show what he could do if fed the ball consistently. I think that we'll see alot more of that in the last 3 games.
 
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