Hightower set the tone...just like in the Colts game

[Timm Rosenbach]

That predictable fumble put the rest of the team in "I have got to make a play" mode and led to careless mistakes.

 

[joshstmarie]

yup, just like the vikings game that we won.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Is that 4 first quarter fumbles? If anything, Beanie should start to get rid of that trend alone.

 

[TJ]

Who the hell teaches this team ball control?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Who the hell teaches this team ball control?

That's a trick question, there is no one.

 

[splitsecond]

Is that 4 first quarter fumbles? If anything, Beanie should start to get rid of that trend alone.

Yes, and Beanie should start.

 

[Shane]

1st qtr fumbles are no more disastrous than 2nd 3rd and 4th qtr fumbles. They all blow equally!

 

[82CardsGrad]

1st qtr fumbles are no more disastrous than 2nd 3rd and 4th qtr fumbles. They all blow equally!

No doubt... but on the road, in a game of this magnitude and on National TV when the opposition is in frenzy mode, 1st quarter fumbles are like feeding raw meat to a Lion....

 

[ajcardfan]

Hightower's fumble put us in a hole and Wells' fumble snuffed out our last hope. Which was worse? Does it even matter? Fact is, we don't have a back we can trust to hold onto the ball. Well, except for Jason Wright, MAYBE.

 

[Shane]

Hightower's fumble put us in a hole and Wells' fumble snuffed out our last hope. Which was worse? Does it even matter? Fact is, we don't have a back we can trust to hold onto the ball. Well, except for Jason Wright, MAYBE.

Word!

 

[nashman]

I would say on Beanies fumble the guy hit the ball with his helmet HARD, I think damn near any back in the league fumbles that ball imo. TH fumble was terrible and inside the 10yrd line at the beginning of a huge game with NO GREAT play on the ball to knock it loose.

 

[Shane]

I would say on Beanies fumble the guy hit the ball with his helmet HARD, I think damn near any back in the league fumbles that ball imo. TH fumble was terrible and inside the 10yrd line at the beginning of a huge game with NO GREAT play on the ball to knock it loose.

I say you all make excuses for Wells. Yes he hit the ball. But Welss was in traffic. If he has his other arm on the other side of the ball like he should it doesn't come out. TWO hands on the ball in traffic PERIOD!

 

[Russ Smith]

Hightower's fumble put us in a hole and Wells' fumble snuffed out our last hope. Which was worse? Does it even matter? Fact is, we don't have a back we can trust to hold onto the ball. Well, except for Jason Wright, MAYBE.

Beat me too it. Hell I can argue that Hyphen's fumble was the biggest because it went from one mistake to uh oh here we go again after his.

They were all bad, can't win with that many mistakes.

 

[Russ Smith]

I would say on Beanies fumble the guy hit the ball with his helmet HARD, I think damn near any back in the league fumbles that ball imo. TH fumble was terrible and inside the 10yrd line at the beginning of a huge game with NO GREAT play on the ball to knock it loose.

The hit on Hightower was pretty similar, it was the impact of the hit that caused the fumble. he wasn't holding the ball loose at all(like Warner does) just a perfect hit.

 

[nashman]

Shane 2 hands sure the hell didn't help your boy TH! Beanie had fine control of he ball when a defender makes a hard hit with helmet on ball it will come out sorry. I understand you like TH but its clear that Beanie should start to almost everybody.

 

[Shane]

Shane 2 hands sure the hell didn't help your boy TH! Beanie had fine control of he ball when a defender makes a hard hit with helmet on ball it will come out sorry. I understand you like TH but its clear that Beanie should start to almost everybody.

Um timmy wasn't using two hands either. So WTF are you referring to?

 

[mrbyte]

Well personally I'm not sure Beanie is safer with the ball, he nearly fumbled the ball last night without even being touched. They showed it on a off tackle run he had the ball poppinh up out of his arms and had to secure it with his other hand and he hadn't been touched

 

[Early]

We would come back in the game and the game would be tied if Wells doesnt fumble. The momentum was completely turned arround

If Tim doesnt fumble it also keeps the game at least tied

There is no difference there at all. Both were horrible plays

 

[nashman]

What the TH lovers are seeing is beyond me. It is clear who the more talented back that should be the starter is! When both backs have fumble issues well you play the better f'n back its pretty obvious geesh.

 

[DieHardCardFan]

What the TH lovers are seeing is beyond me. It is clear who the more talented back that should be the starter is! When both backs have fumble issues well you play the better f'n back its pretty obvious geesh.

Dont get frustrated! Some of us would just like to see both do well. Some others seem to revel anytime THT struggles and make excuses when BW does. It is what it is. I hope they both smash the hell out of the Lions.

 

[Shane]

What the TH lovers are seeing is beyond me. It is clear who the more talented back that should be the starter is! When both backs have fumble issues well you play the better f'n back its pretty obvious geesh.

Ok first and foremost I am a Well's and Hightower lover. I like them both a lot and like what they both bring to the table. When I chime in its all you Timmy haters that say Timmy should just plain be benched. Which IMO is plain and simply silly

But since we are on the topic can you name me one single stat that Well's is BETTER than Timmy in? Just one that's all I ask? The production on the field doesn't bear out what you are saying in anyway shape or form. That is a fact through 14 weeks. Although Hightower is clearly and easily the better pass catcher and blocker of the two.

In fact Well's is supposed to be our break away RB. Yet we have yet to see it. Timmy is the one with at least two runs of over 30 yards.

There is no question that Well's has more physical talent. That is unarguable. But the bottom line is that Timmy produces and does so quite well. They both do so at about an even clip. I like the rotation and keeping them both fresh.

 

[DieHardCardFan]

Ok first and foremost I am a Well's and Hightower lover. I like them both a lot and like what they both bring to the table. When I chime in its all you Timmy haters that say Timmy should just plain be benched. Which IMO is plain and simply silly

But since we are on the topic can you name me one single stat that Well's is BETTER than Timmy in? Just one that's all I ask? The production on the field doesn't bear out what you are saying in anyway shape or form. That is a fact through 14 weeks.

In fact Well's is supposed to be our break away. Yet we have yet to see it. Timmy is the one with at least two runs of over 30 yards.

There is no question that Well's has more physical talent. That is unarguable. But the bottom line is that Timmy produces and does so quite well. They both do at about an even clip. I like the rotation and keeping them both fresh.

I expect ............crickets noises to this post!

 

[mrbyte]

Ok first and foremost I am a Well's and Hightower lover. I like them both a lot and like what they both bring to the table. When I chime in its all you Timmy haters that say Timmy should just plain be benched. Which IMO is plain and simply silly

But since we are on the topic can you name me one single stat that Well's is BETTER than Timmy in? Just one that's all I ask? The production on the field doesn't bear out what you are saying in anyway shape or form. That is a fact through 14 weeks.

In fact Well's is supposed to be our break away. Yet we have yet to see it. Timmy is the one with at least two runs of over 30 yards.

There is no question that Well's has more physical talent. That is unarguable. But the bottom line is that Timmy produces and does so quite well. They both do at about an even clip. I like the rotation and keeping them both fresh.

didn't we say all this last week?

 

[nashman]

I like them both too read my post I NEVER this season have asked for TH to be totally benched! I want them both to play as well but Wells should be starting and recieving the majority of the RUNNING carries/touches. I want to see the both succeed all I am saying it is time for Wells to be the starter period.

 

[Early]

What the TH lovers are seeing is beyond me. It is clear who the more talented back that should be the starter is! When both backs have fumble issues well you play the better f'n back its pretty obvious geesh.

Beainie isnt the best back, Timmy is. He is perhaps the best blocking/recieving back in the whole league. Combine his superb blocking skills that make our 4 WR sets work so well with his recieving that rescue us when there is nothing down the field, yes he is as good as it gets. Beanie isnt even close in that cetegory

In this scheme, the above is what matters just as much as running with the ball

When we talk about running, he was by far the best one against Vikings. This game we didnt see him in that role because of the fumble. Beanie has been running really good, there is no doubt about that as well

You dont bench Kurt Warner because of one bad game, the same as you dont bench Peyton Manning due to one bad game

Hightower's skills are nothing short of superb for our scheme and he has been outstanding. And no, you dont bench him because of 4 fumbles

Fumble problems for backs can be solve relatively easy by the way, there are lots of great examples on that. Learning to block THAT good and recieving that good, does not get learned by most backs in their entire NFL career

Tim Hightower is an amazing back and just the type of back that needs to start for this offense. Beanie is just the type of back that needs to come in anc change the pace when we are in front and need to pound the ball.

Everything is as it should be. There is no need to change anything besides our RB coach working on ball protection with all our backs. beanie, hightower AND LSH . They have all fumbled once in last game, and all three fumbles were crucial for the game. First two for getting SF the lead. The last for not getting us back in the game and win it.