How Attractive is the AZ Job?

[Totally_Red]

I could be wrong but I think one of the big negatives of the Cardinals job is the brutal NFC West. If you are a young assistant looking for your first gig,
You get to go up against Pete Carroll, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan. You may have your QBOTF on the roster, but he's arguably the fourth best QB
in the division at this point.

I'm lukewarm on Adam Gase, but sometimes a coach learns from his mistakes at his first NFL job and rebounds to be a good or very good head coach. (See Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick).

The success of Sean McVay with the Rams should be a blueprint for the Cardinals. In that case, McVay focused on the offense, retained an elite special teams coach and hired a seasoned and proven defensive coordinator. I'm just not sure Gase showed in Miami that he can build the kind of rapport with his players that has been a key to McVay's success.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I could be wrong but I think one of the big negatives of the Cardinals job is the brutal NFC West. If you are a young assistant looking for your first gig,
You get to go up against Pete Carroll, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan. You may have your QBOTF on the roster, but he's arguably the fourth best QB
in the division at this point.

I'm lukewarm on Adam Gase, but sometimes a coach learns from his mistakes at his first NFL job and rebounds to be a good or very good head coach. (See Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick).

The success of Sean McVay with the Rams should be a blueprint for the Cardinals. In that case, McVay focused on the offense, retained an elite special teams coach and hired a seasoned and proven defensive coordinator. I'm just not sure Gase showed in Miami that he can build the kind of rapport with his players that have been a key to McVay's success.

I'd expect any aspiring H-C to have as much fear of Pete Carroll, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, as McVay and Shanahan had of Carroll and Arians.

 

[oaken1]

Strongly agreed. This talk of manyyears is nonsense. When Keim goes, so will the coach.

childish misconception. NFL history doesnt even suggest it. Plenty of GM's lose their jobs and the coach stays.

so are we also worried any new coach will want to can Rosen because he wants his own draft pick at QB??

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I know MANY great people that have fallen prey to a DUI. In most cases, it was the best thing that ever happened to them. They cleaned themselves up, got back in the saddle, and are even better professionally than before the DUI took place. Unless MB is lying, Keim has done everything asked of him in regards to the DUI. I'll take his 49-30 record prior to the 2018 season & see if he returns to the form that earned him 2 Executive of the Year awards.

But you’re not “taking” the 3-13 2018 season? Wtf?

 

[PACardsFan]

But you’re not “taking” the 3-13 2018 season? Wtf?

That's a silly question. There are far too many of MB's fingerprints on the 2018 season for me to put that crap on Keim. You can argue with me until you're blue in the face, and you won't change my perspective. I know too much about what went down with the Wilks hire. Do you think it was coincidence that Michael jumped on the hand grenade during the Wilks firing presser? MB swallowed that blame whole.

 

[football karma]

I know too much about what went down with the Wilks hire.

source? Im not trolling with this -- and I don't need names, but give me something

its a material fact that impacts one key criticism of Keim for me: hiring a DC who runs a 4-3

 

[GuernseyCard]

source? Im not trolling with this -- and I don't need names, but give me something

its a material fact that impacts one key criticism of Keim for me: hiring a DC who runs a 4-3

On day one, Wilks said we were moving to a 4-3 (cheered by many here) and the choice of D-C was his as per usual.

 

[TRW]

Cronyism is the appointment of friends and associates to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications. Rod Graves may not have been particularly good at the job, however, he was qualified and did convince Dollar Bill to structure contracts more in keeping with League standards. Keim is clearly qualified for the job and two Executive of the Year awards speaks to the fact that it's recognized by his peers.

BIM: admirable

Thanks Dr. Dictionary. You’re the smartest

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Execs to ESPN: Cardinals’ head-coach opening ranks 2nd-to-last in NFL

http://arizonasports.com/story/1789...-head-coach-opening-ranks-2nd-to-last-in-nfl/

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Execs to ESPN: Cardinals’ head-coach opening ranks 2nd-to-last in NFL

http://arizonasports.com/story/1789...-head-coach-opening-ranks-2nd-to-last-in-nfl/

“Hey, we’re not Cincinnati! Wanna coach our team?”

 

[football karma]

On day one, Wilks said we were moving to a 4-3 (cheered by many here) and the choice of D-C was his as per usual.

referring more to the implication that Mike B hired Wilks / Keim wasn't on board or was ambivalent

 

[TJ]

Execs to ESPN: Cardinals’ head-coach opening ranks 2nd-to-last in NFL

http://arizonasports.com/story/1789...-head-coach-opening-ranks-2nd-to-last-in-nfl/

Switch out the names “Cardinals” and “Packers” and the ranking is much more preferential.

Arizona’s position is far better than over half of the vacancies:

-Cap flexibility
-QBoF in place
-#1 Draft pick
- Waiver priority
- Good nucleus of talent already on the payroll
- Location

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

How attractive is the Cards Job? I'd say they are the NFL equivalent of this:

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[Chopper0080]

Back to the OP..less attractive than I am. But, that is ok...I am pretty attractive.

 

[football karma]

how about "Attractive enough"

 

[gimpy]

Cronyism?

Give me a break.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's a silly question. There are far too many of MB's fingerprints on the 2018 season for me to put that crap on Keim. You can argue with me until you're blue in the face, and you won't change my perspective. I know too much about what went down with the Wilks hire. Do you think it was coincidence that Michael jumped on the hand grenade during the Wilks firing presser? MB swallowed that blame whole.

So this season was all wilks and MB? Wow. Guess personnel decisions over the past years just don’t count for 2018. That’s just a lame and indefensible position imo. But no need to go blue in the face for you.

 

[Willie D]

I think I'd put Arizona's HC gig above Cincy, and Miami as well. Cincy...isn't their new coach ordained to be Hue Jackson? Why are they even on the list? Miami firing Gase, demoting their GM and generally looking like Steven Ross got too much sun on South Beach one day...that's dysfunction you only see at Thanksgiving dinner.

The family is obviously more loyal to GMs than coaches. BA and Wizz lasted 5 years...longer than any other coach since moving west. Billy Bowtie gave up pretending to be Jerrih' Jones in 1987 and hired a real GM. With the exception of BuddyBall, they all lasted > 5 years, especially Rod Graves. Mikey has never had to hire a GM before, just promote them from within. This include some really lean years when the team was staring upwards, praying for at least mediocrity.

So in retrospect, I'm not surprised they kept Keim, but all the platitudes about a #1 pick and #1 waiver wire preference--that might last for one single year. Then it's back to middling picks and waiver signings, and that's when the team seems to head south.

 

[bojack]

5 years is ridiculous, you don't need 5 years to turn a team around in the NFL.

You only need 5 years when the front office is an incompetent mess. I don't think we are at that level but I also don't think Keim is a GM capable of taking us from 3 wins to 10 wins in just a couple seasons based on how poorly he has managed this roster for the past few years .