How good is Booker?

[Hoop Head]

I think max money is based on a lot of factors...

Current production
Potential upside
Age (younger the better)

Then some more intangibles like player image (face of the franchise)...chemistry... value to the team.

I think Booker gets max or near max in almost every criteria. He's an extremely young scoring phenom with a good guy demeanor and a perfect image for a franchise. He can anchor this team for the next decade (contract willing).

I agree with that, what scares me though is McD and/or Sarver trying to offer him near the max to sign and he gets offended and decides to seek greener pastures. Without Booker this team falls back a decade, I don't care who they draft this year. He is the future of this club and considering he hasn't had any bad injuries or attitude issues, you pay him top dollar.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

I agree with that, what scares me though is McD and/or Sarver trying to offer him near the max to sign and he gets offended and decides to seek greener pastures. Without Booker this team falls back a decade, I don't care who they draft this year. He is the future of this club and considering he hasn't had any bad injuries or attitude issues, you pay him top dollar.

Even Foamy isn't that stupid, Foamy is in the same mold as Louis XVI in general self awareness, but even he from a self preservation standpoint has to realize that he would be the laughing stock of the NBA world to low ball Booker. The org. is already running things through Booker, Sarver will just chalk up the max as basketball and front office work, to tell himself he is getting a good deal.

If he low balls him, bring out the guillotine.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I think it would take some crazy turn of events from here until the summer for them to not offer a max. The only place I could possibly see a hangup would be in the raise percentages, but that would be a ludicrous reason to stop a deal from happenning.

 

[elindholm]

If you look at the level of player that has gotten no-stress maximum extensions the last several years, putting Booker in that group is a no-brainer.

 

[GatorAZ]

I'm curious who you consider a max player right now, that plays SG in the NBA currently.

Derozen is worth his max even though it seemed like an overpay when he signed it. Klay is a two way player that deserves it. Beal possibly? Man the position isn't what it used to be...

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think it would take some crazy turn of events from here until the summer for them to not offer a max. The only place I could possibly see a hangup would be in the raise percentages, but that would be a ludicrous reason to stop a deal from happenning.

No hang up with anything. It’s kind of funny that Steph Curry got less than the max at this point in his career, but it was because of ankle issues I think.

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree with that, what scares me though is McD and/or Sarver trying to offer him near the max to sign and he gets offended and decides to seek greener pastures. Without Booker this team falls back a decade, I don't care who they draft this year. He is the future of this club and considering he hasn't had any bad injuries or attitude issues, you pay him top dollar.

I can't see the Suns offering Booker less than max unless Booker wants to use some of the money to add a key player. Then I don't see it happening unless there is a way his contract can be structured to help do so.

Booker is the Suns foundation piece and he will be paid accordingly.

 

[JS22]

Anything other than the max would make me completely drop support of the team that I've been following since 1987. At least until the current ownership / FO is purged.

Thing is, I don't look at Booker as a true "max" player. But in the current NBA landscape he absolutely is. Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and I'm sure I'm missing a few. Those are "max" players to me. Booker is currently a few notches below those guys.

But to offer him anything less than the max in today's NBA is an insult. The Suns would take a positive step towards improving their reputation by offering a no-hesitation max the SECOND they can. If they dance around it and try to get a "hometown discount" they will continue to be the one of the laughing stocks of the NBA.

 

[SirStefan32]

Yeah, I agree with everyone other than one person here. Pay Booker as soon as possible, as much as possible.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Anything other than the max would make me completely drop support of the team that I've been following since 1987. At least until the current ownership / FO is purged.

Thing is, I don't look at Booker as a true "max" player. But in the current NBA landscape he absolutely is. Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and I'm sure I'm missing a few. Those are "max" players to me. Booker is currently a few notches below those guys.

But to offer him anything less than the max in today's NBA is an insult. The Suns would take a positive step towards improving their reputation by offering a no-hesitation max the SECOND they can. If they dance around it and try to get a "hometown discount" they will continue to be the one of the laughing stocks of the NBA.

Who is worthy of max money is determined by the players currently in the league. Don’t see the point in bringing up past players considering they have no bearing on the current landscape.

 

[Ronin]

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Devin Booker is one of 9 players currently averaging a 25-4-4 stat line. The others are LeBron, Harden, Giannis, Curry, KD, Boogie, DeRozan and Lillard

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Don't worry folks, Sarver will find a way to short change Booker and piss him off. When Booker makes it clear he is gone, McD will hold a press conference bad mouthing Booker and finding some way to blame him for it.

 

[devilalum]

Don't worry folks, Sarver will find a way to short change Booker and piss him off. When Booker makes it clear he is gone, McD will hold a press conference bad mouthing Booker and finding some way to blame him for it.

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[BC867]

Anything other than the max would make me completely drop support of the team that I've been following since 1987. At least until the current ownership / FO is purged.

Thing is, I don't look at Booker as a true "max" player. But in the current NBA landscape he absolutely is. Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and I'm sure I'm missing a few. Those are "max" players to me. Booker is currently a few notches below those guys.

But to offer him anything less than the max in today's NBA is an insult. The Suns would take a positive step towards improving their reputation by offering a no-hesitation max the SECOND they can. If they dance around it and try to get a "hometown discount" they will continue to be the one of the laughing stocks of the NBA.

Book is only 21 and is already involved in the team's personnel decisions going forward. Even though it is unfair to compare him to Jordan, Kobe, Shaq and LeBron so soon, he is the Suns "max" player and we could sure use some positive publicity on the team.

 

[GatorAZ]

Yeah, I agree with everyone other than one person here. Pay Booker as soon as possible, as much as possible.

Who would that be?

 

[Phrazbit]

Anything other than the max would make me completely drop support of the team that I've been following since 1987. At least until the current ownership / FO is purged.

Thing is, I don't look at Booker as a true "max" player. But in the current NBA landscape he absolutely is. Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and I'm sure I'm missing a few. Those are "max" players to me. Booker is currently a few notches below those guys.

But to offer him anything less than the max in today's NBA is an insult. The Suns would take a positive step towards improving their reputation by offering a no-hesitation max the SECOND they can. If they dance around it and try to get a "hometown discount" they will continue to be the one of the laughing stocks of the NBA.

If guys like that got their actual worth then they'd get double the max. It is stupid that a guy like Derozan gets paid the same amount as LeBron or Curry but it's because of the stupid "max" contract in the CBA. The best of the best don't get what they're worth and the guys a notch below that get overpaid because the money is there to give.

 

[SirStefan32]

Who would that be?

I had to look back. I was referring to you. Upon further reading, I take back my comment- you did not disagree that he should get the max. My apologies!

 

[pokerface]

If guys like that got their actual worth then they'd get double the max. It is stupid that a guy like Derozan gets paid the same amount as LeBron or Curry but it's because of the stupid "max" contract in the CBA. The best of the best don't get what they're worth and the guys a notch below that get overpaid because the money is there to give.

The "best of the best" get double and triple their salary in endorsements so pardon me if I don't cry for their "losses".

 

[Phrazbit]

The "best of the best" get double and triple their salary in endorsements so pardon me if I don't cry for their "losses".

I'm not saying they don't, im more viewing it from the perspective of competitive balance.

 

[pokerface]

I'm not saying they don't, im more viewing it from the perspective of competitive balance.

Yeah I get what you're saying but no system will ever be perfect either. I think salaries are kinda a complex thing in some ways. Some players are paid based on need too instead of just sheer statistics numbers. Plus we've found out in years prior that teams will pay stupid money to rip off a player on another team.

 

[Hoop Head]

Booker is 9th in fan voting amongst Western Conference guards right now. Ahead of him are Curry, Harden, Westbrook, Klay, Ginobli, Chris Paul, Damien Lillard, and Lonzo Ball. I know he won't get voted into the starting lineup but he should be ahead of Ginobli and Ball for sure. He seems well liked by players around the league as well so there is a shot he makes the All-Star game this year. I think he'll make it next year if he doesn't this year though. It's just a matter of time.

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[JS22]

Who is worthy of max money is determined by the players currently in the league. Don’t see the point in bringing up past players considering they have no bearing on the current landscape.

I did say twice that Booker is a max player in today's NBA. I was just using a random collection of past / present players as an example of what a "true" max player is. (In my opinion.)

Booker is getting there, which makes him a max player in the current landscape.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Booker is starting to get the national attention he deserves:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1/5/16852950/nba-devin-booker-kyrie-irving-phoenix-suns

The go-to comparison for Booker seems to be moving from Klay Thompson to James Harden.

 

[Superbone]

Booker is starting to get the national attention he deserves:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1/5/16852950/nba-devin-booker-kyrie-irving-phoenix-suns

The go-to comparison for Booker seems to be moving from Klay Thompson to James Harden.

As it should.

 

[elindholm]

The go-to comparison for Booker seems to be moving from Klay Thompson to James Harden.

I'm not sure that's an upgrade, or even accurate, for that matter.