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BACH said:
Huh???

Watch the game again.That's exactly what they're trying to do on most plays. It might not look like that in the hole because of a pull, but look at the rest of the line instead of just the hole.

Obviously you don't understand what I'm trying to describe but that's understandable without video. In the blocking scheme I'm talking about nobody pulls. The line just fires out at a slight angle rather than straight ahead. They maintain a tight line and try to move the defense to that side. It's almost like a swinging gate with the TE or Tackle as the post except that it moves downfield as it swings.

Maybe the Cards are trying to do that and just aren't any good at it so the line gets out of whack.

No big deal.
 

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Duckjake said:
Obviously you don't understand what I'm trying to describe but that's understandable without video. In the blocking scheme I'm talking about nobody pulls. The line just fires out at a slight angle rather than straight ahead. They maintain a tight line and try to move the defense to that side. It's almost like a swinging gate with the TE or Tackle as the post except that it moves downfield as it swings.

Maybe the Cards are trying to do that and just aren't any good at it so the line gets out of whack.

No big deal.
Actually I got it. The way Indy blocks, right?

That also a type of zone-blocking. That is actually also what we're trying to do, but with a little twist (more pulling). Try watching the 49'ers game again, AND it's very clear that it's what we're trying to do (in that game at least).

My whole point was that all teams use some degree of zone-blocking, but very few teams (DEN, ATL, HOU) use the "pure"/"original" zone-blocking scheme.

From a scale from 1 to 5, where Pittsburgh is 1 and Atlanta is 5, we're probably right in the middle (If I interpret the scheme correctly, of course :) ) Indy would rate as a 4 on that scale.

I would compare the scheme to what the Chiefs use. A power block (pull) in the hole, with zone-blocking on the back-side to create a cut-back lane. IMO that also the scheme that fits our bigger OL the best. Look at the long drive in the 4th against the 49'ers. I'm expecting that's what we're trying to do.
 

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Thanks. I wasn't so much comparing it to what the Cards are trying to do as I was just curious about that blocking scheme.
 

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Duckjake said:
Thanks. I wasn't so much comparing it to what the Cards are trying to do as I was just curious about that blocking scheme.
Well, that's similar to a pure zone-block because it moves the entire LOS with the OL as a unit.

The main difference is that type of zone-blocking vs. the type that ATL and DEN uses is that ability to read based on the blocks. The strength of the pure zone-block is that if perfectly executed it opens both the running lane AND a cut-back lane. The bocking on inside runs will therefore look the same for the defense whether you run left or right. (where a scheme like Indy's clearly shows which side you're running to) That also why the Falcons run so many counter plays.
 
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