I hATE ROBIN LOPEZ

[Steel Sun]

I'm ashamed to be a UA alum right now. Kerr sucks.

UA SUCKS!!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The irony was not lost on me when my 5 year daughter screamed out "He's got clown hair!"

that's hilarious and sad on two fronts.

just so it's known - i didn't choose my name on this forum. i allowed the cards board to name me. so i'm a clown in cyberspace only.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I'm not a big fan of bashing the Suns' pick. The Suns don't have room for a star to come in and eat up minutes, but then need a role player to fill minutes and defend.

The Suns, historically, have done a good job picking mid first rounders. And for those of you too young, we can always look back to the Marjerle pick to know most fans know jack squat about the players.

Check back in 3 to 5yrs and see how the pick pans out.

a) we will need a star when nash, shaq, hill, bell are gone, which is right around the corner.

b) you can get dirt workers in the 2nd round (turiaf, powe, varejeo, etc.). this pick is not value.

c) this is a completely different cast of characters that selected majerle. just b/c "suns" is on the door to the office doesn't make their acumen the same. i think we've seen that over the past three years.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I think this thread is hilarious. Everyone is mad we are not taking the OBVIOUS NBA superstar who was sitting their at 15. I mean what was Kerr thinking?

You know why this was a smart pick? Because for the love of god we couldn't defend the pick and roll and thats basically all they ran this guy for during work outs. He is going to be a stout 7 footer who can come off the bench and defend big men and rebound a little ala Anderson Varejo.

You know what might have won us a championship last year? A big man who could guard the pick and roll for 20 minutes a game.

Geez - how ironic that all the people who wanted to get rid of DA want to draft a boom or bust pick who has a .05% chance of being a all star at some point. You wanted us to bring on more offense? for what reason exactly? Was that our problem last year?

Wouldn't you rather have the guy who can help us win a championship next year? Everyone is so worried that we don't have any solid youth for when Nash and Shaq are done but when those guys fall off the books youthink we are going to have trouble getting a A+ player to come here for the max?

Suns fans are never happy. I for one am glad we are retooling and going for it all next year with a better attitude about defense and rebounding.

 

[AfroSuns]

I think this thread is hilarious. Everyone is mad we are not taking the OBVIOUS NBA superstar who was sitting their at 15. I mean what was Kerr thinking?

You know why this was a smart pick? Because for the love of god we couldn't defend the pick and roll and thats basically all they ran this guy for during work outs. He is going to be a stout 7 footer who can come off the bench and defend big men and rebound a little ala Anderson Varejo.

You know what might have won us a championship last year? A big man who could guard the pick and roll for 20 minutes a game.

Geez - how ironic that all the people who wanted to get rid of DA want to draft a boom or bust pick who has a .05% chance of being a all star at some point. You wanted us to bring on more offense? for what reason exactly? Was that our problem last year?

Wouldn't you rather have the guy who can help us win a championship next year? Everyone is so worried that we don't have any solid youth for when Nash and Shaq are done but when those guys fall off the books you think we are going to have trouble getting a A+ player to come here for the max?

Suns fans are never happy. I for one am glad we are retooling and going for it all next year with a better attitude about defense and rebounding.

Right on!!!
I doubt you will be able to change the minds of all the armchair coach/manager on these board. Some of em wanted the Suns to draft greene, who didn't get picked until 28th. I think this thread title is stupid. they didn't even give the kid a chance to contribute, dude is hyped up and ready to play and you welcome him with a "I hate you thread? Classless

 

[Chaplin]

Right on!!!
I doubt you will be able to change the minds of all the armchair coach/manager on these board. Some of em wanted the Suns to draft greene, who didn't get picked until 28th. I think this thread title is stupid. they didn't even give the kid a chance to contribute, dude is hyped up and ready to play and you welcome him with a "I hate you thread? Classless

Agreed. We had a need for a defensive dirt worker--we got that. And no matter how much Ouchie wants to try to convince us a player as good as Lopez would have been there at 48, he's living in fantasy land.

 

[Covert Rain]

Agreed. We had a need for a defensive dirt worker--we got that. And no matter how much Ouchie wants to try to convince us a player as good as Lopez would have been there at 48, he's living in fantasy land.

Regardless of whether or not Lopez turns out to be a solid player or a dud. There is one thing in the NBA that you can count on. That's NBA teams drafting guys too high based on height. You hear it over and over that you can't teach height.

There was no way Lopez was still there after the first round. Somebody was going to draft that guy regardless of what they thought about his skill as a player at the current time.

 

[tobiazz]

Agreed. We had a need for a defensive dirt worker--we got that. And no matter how much Ouchie wants to try to convince us a player as good as Lopez would have been there at 48, he's living in fantasy land.

If the Suns need was a player that could contribute right away, I'm not sure they addressed that need. Regardless, I'm going to stop worrying about the pick and just see how he does this year. This is officially Kerr's chance to either be a genius or idiot, so let's give him a shot.

 

[tobiazz]

Agreed. We had a need for a defensive dirt worker--we got that. And no matter how much Ouchie wants to try to convince us a player as good as Lopez would have been there at 48, he's living in fantasy land.

Hibbert went two spots after Robin, so Robin probably would have went somewhere in the 17-27 range.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

If the Suns need was a player that could contribute right away, I'm not sure they addressed that need. Regardless, I'm going to stop worrying about the pick and just see how he does this year. This is officially Kerr's chance to either be a genius or idiot, so let's give him a shot.

Didn't this board say that with Shaq? How many official chances do you get?

 

[damo]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned this in another thread, but Bill Cartwright's presence on staff gives me some hope.

I was thinking of what player Lopez could be like, and Cartwright came to mind. Then I remembered he was on staff.

Hopefully Cartwright will take Lopez under his wing and teach him all the dirty tricks and shortcuts that he used to use. How to clear space when Amare/Nash/Hill drive, boxing out, all the dirt work that Cartwright did back in the day. That may prove Lopez a valuable pick.

 

[Errntknght]

I don't know diddly about Robin Lopez but I heartily commend Kerr and the rest of the staff for their effort to bring in a C that does play defense. Now I may get ill when I see him on the floor but at present, I'm content to wait to see him play before I agree drafting him was an unmitigated disaster.

I won't be shocked if he blossoms once out of the shadow of his twin - though that possibility is too remote to be grounds for drafting him.

 

[Mulli]

Did anyone catch Brook crying when Charlotte didn't pick him? that was unfortunate for him.

 

[tobiazz]

Didn't this board say that with Shaq? How many official chances do you get?

Kerr said it himself with Shaq, but getting bigger in the front court was a pressing matter. I didn't have a problem with the Shaq trade and I think it was a worthwhile risk. Perhaps they could have pulled off a better trade involving Marion but I don't know.

This is different because they got the #1 player they wanted with each pick. There are no caveats to this draft. If these picks don't pan out, Kerr has no excuse.

 

[Joe Mama]

a) we will need a star when nash, shaq, hill, bell are gone, which is right around the corner.

b) you can get dirt workers in the 2nd round (turiaf, powe, varejeo, etc.). this pick is not value.

So I guess the question is this. Do you take a guy at #15 with great size who you feel has a 75% chance of being a solid, defensive minded center, or do you go for a home run like Greene who has maybe a 5-10% chance of being like Rashard Lewis a couple years down the road? I think when you feel that your championship window is still open you go for the big man who fills one of your biggest needs.

Joe

 

[Chaplin]

If the Suns need was a player that could contribute right away, I'm not sure they addressed that need. Regardless, I'm going to stop worrying about the pick and just see how he does this year. This is officially Kerr's chance to either be a genius or idiot, so let's give him a shot.

At #15, with Rush already gone, name me one player that was remaining that fulfilled a need AND could contribute right away. Out of everyone available, Robin fit the bill the most.

He's a rookie, sure there will be adjustments, but as long as he learns positioning, I don't think there's any reason to think he won't be a solid contributor by November.

 

[Chaplin]

So I guess the question is this. Do you take a guy at #15 with great size who you feel has a 75% chance of being a solid, defensive minded center, or do you go for a home run like Greene who has maybe a 5-10% chance of being like Rashard Lewis a couple years down the road? I think when you feel that your championship window is still open you go for the big man who fills one of your biggest needs.

Joe

This pretty much sums it all up nicely.

 

[justAndy]

No! - I wanna panic and be angry about a 20 yr old kid!
i KNOW he's gonna be a bust!
Suns should have drafted ____________ - he's a can't-miss STUD!

 

[JCSunsfan]

Didn't this board say that with Shaq? How many official chances do you get?

In the draft, most gm's miss more than they hit. JC had plenty of draft blunders.

 

[devilalum]

At one point yesterday it looked like Brook might slip to #15. I never read about them working out Brook. If he had slid would the Suns have taken him over Robin?

 

[Covert Rain]

The Suns drafted the only player they felt fit a need for sure that was left available. So for that I can't fault the Suns. They even attempted to trade down.

However, if you watch the draft war room video, I find it interesting that the team coveted Goran Dragic more then Lopez. Griffith said if they thought he could play this year, they would have taken him over Lopez.

I am not sure what to think about that. It probably means that Suns are not as convinced about Lopez as they are Dragic. If the Suns #1 priority was defense around the basket and they would have passed on any of the players left for Dragic....what does that say?

 

[Treesquid PhD]

In the draft, most gm's miss more than they hit. JC had plenty of draft blunders.

Just checking the process here. I have no issues with Kerr at this point, I think he is doing a good job.

 

[Covert Rain]

In the draft, most gm's miss more than they hit. JC had plenty of draft blunders.

Yes but what separated him from others was his ability to find diamonds in the rough further down the draft on what seemed like a regular basis.

 

[Chaplin]

The Suns drafted the only player they felt fit a need for sure that was left available. So for that I can't fault the Suns. They even attempted to trade down.

However, if you watch the draft war room video, I find it interesting that the team coveted Goran Dragic more then Lopez. Griffith said if they thought he could play this year, they would have taken him over Lopez.

I am not sure what to think about that. It probably means that Suns are not as convinced about Lopez as they are Dragic. If the Suns #1 priority was defense around the basket and they would have passed on any of the players left for Dragic....what does that say?

It also could say that they are more concerned with backup point guard than defensive big, and 75% of this board would agree with him.

 

[Drop D]

I'm ashamed to be a UA alum right now.

What took so long.