I think we need to go all out to get Andrew Luck no matter the cost.

[Black Jesus]

Locker turned down $50 mil last draft to stay at Washington. Leinart turned down $25 mil +/- guaranteed in 2005 to stay at USC one more year. Anything is possible.

You just gave two reasons why he will be entering the draft.

100% he goes. Locker, Leinart drops, injury possibility, etc.

We need to take after the niners and lose out the rest of the season.

 

[Reddog]

Just read up on Luck. He's only a sophomore (redshirted his freshman season). His family is well off and he's an Architectural Design major that was also co-valedictorian of his graduating class (2008).

I could see him staying at least one more year in college.

If he is that smart and the undisputed #1 pick he will come out. Foolish to risk the plunge or injury by staying in.

 

[az jam]

Harbaugh will be the Head Coach of the 49ers next year. Singletary will get fired. 49ers are also in the Luck sweepstakes.

However, I think we have a better chance on getting Mallet or Newton. Just don't know if they are worth a top ten pick.

 

[Broseph]

i also agree that we have a better chance of nabbing mallet, newton, or locker. i really feel luck will go #1 and i don't see us trading up for him or the team that has the #1 pick accepting a trade from a team to move up. luck has tons of hype and looks like the real deal. the kids mega smart which you need to be to play quarterback.

 

[slinslin]

Mike Vick is probably the best QB in the league right now and I doubt he is the most intelligent.

 

[Russ Smith]

The way I've seen the quote is a response to a pointed question:

"I believe he is [NFL-ready]," Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh said recently. "He's physically mature, he's mentally mature. He's got a rare talent."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../andrew-luck-heisman/index.html#ixzz15zD9cUPs

Someone asked if he was NFL-ready. What's Harbaugh going to say...No? Of course he's going to say he is. He might be, but it doesn't mean he'll come out. I see him wired more like a Peyton Manning...who stayed in school.

I don't know where SI printed it but that quote was in a column by Tim Kawakami of the SJ Mercury News.

Harbaugh also said this.



"I watch him every day," Harbaugh said of Luck. "He's a pro quarterback.
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There's no question about it."

It was easily the most Harbaugh has said about it all year and even Kawakami said it was highly unusual for a coach to sound like he's encouraging a redshirt soph to go pro.

Up until I read that column I was convinced he was staying in school, now I'm not so sure.

I'm probably reading too much into it but something tells me Harbaugh is going to move on himself and since he thinks Luck is ready, he decided he should encourage Luck because he doesn't want Luck hanging around thinking Harbaugh will too?

 

[Russ Smith]

You just gave two reasons why he will be entering the draft.

100% he goes. Locker, Leinart drops, injury possibility, etc.

We need to take after the niners and lose out the rest of the season.

Leinart definitely dropped but I don't think Locker did. Locker would have fallen last year if he'd come out too, he had all the same problems last year inconsistency, inaccuracy, reading defenses. Scouts would have seen it in the workouts just like they did with Clausen who went from top 10 pick to 2nd round pick. Locker would probably have been picked right around where Clausen was IMHO.

 

[Russ Smith]

Harbaugh will be the Head Coach of the 49ers next year. Singletary will get fired. 49ers are also in the Luck sweepstakes.

However, I think we have a better chance on getting Mallet or Newton. Just don't know if they are worth a top ten pick.

That's been my fear for months that they will hire Harbaugh.

 

[john h]

I think it's finally time to bite the bullet, trade whatever needs to be traded to get up to the #1 overall selection and take Andrew Luck. The band aid approach is to go after a Kyle Orton or even a Kevin Kolb (no way would I trade a 1st and a 3rd for Kolb). People on this board talk about Kolb like he is a pro bowl caliber quarterback right now. He may eventually be, but the guy has had some games that he has been terrible and he plays in a very quarterback friendly west coast system.

I've heard that Luck is the best quarterback in terms of smarts, game management, and pocket awareness to come out since Peyton Manning. I can't make an honest evaluation because I haven't seen him enough, but there are good evaluators out there who swear by this guy.

We have waffled around the quarterback situation for to long. Getting Kurt Warner was a fluke that allowed us to catch lightning in a bottle for a couple of years, but he wasn't a 10-15 year solution. Matt Leinart was supposed to be the answer,but for various reasons he wasn't. Because we invested a first rounder in a quarterback 4 years ago and it didn't work out, people will say that the best approach is to get a veteran to appease our superstar reciever (Larry Fitzgerald). I'm sorry, but teams that have a wide receiver as the face of their franchise typically don't win. If appeasing Larry Fitzgerald is the only reason not to pursue a kid like Luck, then we really are screwed as an organization.

This is a quarterback driven league. Outside of Trent Dilfer in 2000, teams that go and win superbowls have stars at the quarterback position. Andrew Luck may or may not be a superstar in the future, but the evaluators say he has the goods and its time to take that chance. It's amazing what having a stud at the most important position on the field can do to mask other deficiencies on a team. Brady does it with the Patriots, Manning with the Colts, and Kurt Warner did it with the Cardinals. Brady and Manning have won and won big with mediocre guys to throw to. They make marginal recievers look like stars. Larry Fitzgerald is one of my alltime favorite Cardinals, but as great as he is, he will never be the reason we go to another superbowl.

It will be because we have a franchise quarterback. If Luck has that potential, then do anything and everything possible to make that a reality. This is a great year to make it a reality. We will have a really high pick anyway, and teams who potentially could be at the #1 spot, may be willing to part with the pick (Bills-Fitzpatrick is playing really good, Lions have Stafford, Panthers drafted a QB in the 2nd round last year), so we may not have to sell the farm to get to that spot.

Do it Cardinals. Its time.

You can be very very sure that there will be several teams wanting to move up to take what ever QB they want if the team with the #1 pick does not need a QB. It will not only take a lot of picks to get that position but taking the #1 pick in the draft will cost a lot of money. Once again do we have the ownership who will dish out that kind of money in addition to the draft picks it might cost us. A lot will have to do with out the pros perceive these QBs coming out. To you and many Luck may seem a lock at this point but by the time the combine and season ends anyone of several could be considered the best or all nearly equal. Luck may be such a guy but Mallet may be right behind him and cost a lost less money. The Bidwills will surely take that into consideration. There also may be a QB that is not on anyones radar right now that may surface as the next coming. A number one pick in the draft who is a QB is going to cost major dollars for who ever signs him.

 

[football karma]

That's been my fear for months that they will hire Harbaugh.

I dunno Russ

Harbaugh is in a situation where he can practically name his next job

for an up and comer that will get multiple offers over the next couple years from mega-college programs and/or the NFL: do you take the 49ers job?

Given the whacky ownership -- I have to question if you would.

 

[john h]

Buffalo. Ryan Fitzpatrick is probably going to be their guy if he continues to play how he has recently.

I agree that Buffalo is not going to take a QB. They would get the best deal offered them for the rights to #1. We could very easily end up with the #3 pick and have a look at Mallet and the bad boy from Auburn. Of course it is not impossible that some team may look at the other two QBs as the one they wanted anyway. It is going to be interesting to see just how this draft works out. There are a number of teams needing a QB. Even Seattle. I do not see the Bengals giving up on Palmer. We still have a way to go to see who drafts where.

 

[Russ Smith]

I dunno Russ

Harbaugh is in a situation where he can practically name his next job

for an up and comer that will get multiple offers over the next couple years from mega-college programs and/or the NFL: do you take the 49ers job?

Given the whacky ownership -- I have to question if you would.

Anything is possible but people forget, Jim Harbaugh is a Bay Area guy too. He was born in Ohio and lived in Michigan for years, but he also went to HS in the Bay Area, first at Pioneer in San Jose, and then at Palo Alto HS(I played basketball against him when he was at Paly). He went back to Michigan for college but there's a reason he coached at San Diego and then Stanford, he loves California and wanted to get back to the Bay Area. He has two sons in school in Oregon so the 49er job keeps him closer to his 2 sons(Has 2 daughters), and it keeps him in the Bay Area.

There are obviously issues with the 49ers but Harbaugh is the perfect guy for that job. HE has the same philosophy that Singletary does, hard work, tough, good execution etc. Singletary has already built the offense, the difference is Harbaugh could build the offense. They're just like us if they can't get Luck they will be going after guys like Kolb or Palmer and if Harbaugh had the job and got a QB he's got an offense that is already being built the way he wants to play, tough smashmouth ball, but with a very creative lean to it both in play calling and in formations.

It may not be the best job in the NFL but for a guy who lived in the Bay ARea in HS during the Bill Walsh early years, I can see it being a very attractive job to him.

 

[Black Jesus]

Harbaugh will be 49ers coach, you are right Russ.

 

[Snakester]

If this is the last year where the draft will be uncapped Luck is going to have 80 million reasons to declare. I don't really care how 'well off' his family is, if you throw around $60M in guaranteed money in front of a 22yo and tell him this is the last chance to get an initial payday that huge, it's going to be hard to turn down. But who knows, if Luck is as intelligent as it seems he might not be wired like other 21-22 year olds. As a 21yo student, there is not a chance hell I would turn that down, but that's just me.

Bingo! Show him the money! Two, Who says we are not going to be drafting number one? Just in case somebody has not followed the Cardinals this year, we are playing so badly that we may not win another game. Drafting number one is a very good possibility.

 

[earthsci]

If Carolina doesn't win this weekend against Cleveland they won't get more than two wins. Cincy is in the same boat, Cleveland is their only hope for three wins.

 

[187]

If the football god's feel for us and allow us to draft Luck not only do we have our QB of the future, but we've got our thumper to replace Hayes at ILB as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9PFJI_t5I&feature=player_embedded#!

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[Arizona's Finest]

Co-Sign with the OP.

My worst fear is the Niners get Harbaugh as coach and Luck as QB.

:shiversdownmyspine:

 

[Buckybird]

I don't know where SI printed it but that quote was in a column by Tim Kawakami of the SJ Mercury News.

Harbaugh also said this.



"I watch him every day," Harbaugh said of Luck. "He's a pro quarterback.
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There's no question about it."

It was easily the most Harbaugh has said about it all year and even Kawakami said it was highly unusual for a coach to sound like he's encouraging a redshirt soph to go pro.

Up until I read that column I was convinced he was staying in school, now I'm not so sure.

I'm probably reading too much into it but something tells me Harbaugh is going to move on himself and since he thinks Luck is ready, he decided he should encourage Luck because he doesn't want Luck hanging around thinking Harbaugh will too?

I still say the safest way to go is to go all out for Kolb. It would probably be cheaper in draft picks & money for a player that many already know can play in the NFL at a high level. He probably could be had for a #2 and/or a player or another pick.

 

[daytripper]

My two cents says we need too many upgrades on D to put our eggs in the first round round QB basket gamble. A change to a 4/3 and new D coordinator along with a 1st round DT would seem a better tack. THere wont be many if any long term high dollar deals next year if the labor issues dont settle that should open the door to a decent starter to bridge the gap until a long term answer can be found.

 

[Jersey Girl]

My two cents says we need too many upgrades on D to put our eggs in the first round round QB basket gamble. A change to a 4/3 and new D coordinator along with a 1st round DT would seem a better tack. THere wont be many if any long term high dollar deals next year if the labor issues dont settle that should open the door to a decent starter to bridge the gap until a long term answer can be found.

This. My inclination is that we are not rich enough to go after Luck no matter what the cost.

And I pray to God Harbaugh does not coach for the Niners. That would kill me. (Been a Harbaugh fan for years.)

 

[Duckjake]

Ya'll can forget about a first round draft pick in 2011 at the QB position.

Our QBOF as far as the Cards brass is concerned is already on the roster.

John Skelton. And Moxie Max Hall will be the backup.

Don't believe me?

Josh McCown was still starting games at QB for the Cards on New Year's Day 2006!

 

[desertdawg]

A lot of others teams have went QB in the first and are really benefiting now. Not all were the first QB chosen either. It truely does suck about the Matty and how it all turned out, (no matter which side you were on) but that shouldn't stop us from picking one in the first again. So Luck, Mallet, or Newton. Even if we pick up a vet, unless its Kolb.(you know what I mean)

 

[Russ Smith]

I still say the safest way to go is to go all out for Kolb. It would probably be cheaper in draft picks & money for a player that many already know can play in the NFL at a high level. He probably could be had for a #2 and/or a player or another pick.

IF we can't get Luck yeah Kolb is on my short list with Palmer as guys I'd pursue.

The good thing about Palmer is that CIncy is currently ahead of us in the draft and would almost certainly pick Luck if they got the chance. It would suck we don't get Luck, but it would make Palmer even more likely to be moved.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Why, for no particular reason, am I starting to like Ryan Mallet . I still want no part of Scam Newton though.

 

[Russ Smith]

Today's front page story from Kawakami in the SJ Merc is basically a plea for the 49ers to hire Jim Harbaugh.