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I’d be knocking on it as I write this. I think we finally have a draft so deep at need positions that even Keim can handle it.

In round 1 Keim can likely choose among LB Simmons, RT Wirfs, CB Okudah, DL Brown or WR Lamb. He could trade back slightly and still have Lamb, WR Jeudy, DT Kinlaw, RT Becton or RT Thomas. The first pick is almost impossible to blow. All these choices are sound. They should be productive and durable.

I won’t take the time yet to list all the round 2 options, but again it he just doesn’t reach, Keim should secure a contributing player. The options in 3 are a little tricky, but there’s a better than average shot at a third quality player.

All in all this should be a draft to remember.
 

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I’d be knocking on it as I write this. I think we finally have a draft so deep at need positions that even Keim can handle it.

In round 1 Keim can likely choose among LB Simmons, RT Wirfs, CB Okudah, DL Brown or WR Lamb. He could trade back slightly and still have Lamb, WR Jeudy, DT Kinlaw, RT Becton or RT Thomas. The first pick is almost impossible to blow. All these choices are sound. They should be productive and durable.

I won’t take the time yet to list all the round 2 options, but again it he just doesn’t reach, Keim should secure a contributing player. The options in 3 are a little tricky, but there’s a better than average shot at a third quality player.

All in all this should be a draft to remember.
Harry, if we pass on Lamb what would you think of Claypool in the 3rd or 4th round?

I know he can’t compare to Lamb, Juedy or others but I love the thought of adding a big target for Kyler especially in the red zone.

What is your thoughts on him?
 
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Best case scenario IMO is that the Raiders want to trade up to 38 to get the first WR off the board, and will give us their best 3rd round pick to do so.

We could still get a stud at #12, and use that extra 3rd to move back up for someone or stock the trenches.

Just as a thought. Trade back to #12 and get #80 in the trade.

#12 Bechton, Wills, or Wirfs

Trade back up with Pats (#23 for #40 and #80)....and take AJ Epenesa at #23.

3rd rounder an Edge guy like Weaver or Willekes....or a WR that slips like Pittman or Claypool.

#12 - Wirfs
#23 - Epenesa
#72 - Pittman Jr.
 

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I’d be knocking on it as I write this. I think we finally have a draft so deep at need positions that even Keim can handle it.

In round 1 Keim can likely choose among LB Simmons, RT Wirfs, CB Okudah, DL Brown or WR Lamb. He could trade back slightly and still have Lamb, WR Jeudy, DT Kinlaw, RT Becton or RT Thomas. The first pick is almost impossible to blow. All these choices are sound. They should be productive and durable.

I won’t take the time yet to list all the round 2 options, but again it he just doesn’t reach, Keim should secure a contributing player. The options in 3 are a little tricky, but there’s a better than average shot at a third quality player.

All in all this should be a draft to remember.
That's us screwed, then.
 
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Harry, if we pass on Lamb what would you think of Claypool in the 3rd or 4th round?

I know he can’t compare to Lamb, Juedy or others but I love the thought of adding a big target for Kyler especially in the red zone.

What is your thoughts on him?
I think he’s round 3. I’m not a fan. He’s big and fast but lacks good hands and lacks the ability to use that big body to wall off defenders. I’d say Butler is better but also his hands need work. If someone is really patient he might develop. He is a bit of a freak. I don’t see much immediate impact.
 

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I think he’s round 3. I’m not a fan. He’s big and fast but lacks good hands and lacks the ability to use that big body to wall off defenders. I’d say Butler is better but also his hands need work. If someone is really patient he might develop. He is a bit of a freak. I don’t see much immediate impact.

He seems to get open pretty often considering he is 240 pound wr
He improved a lot his receiving skills the last season from what I heard
 

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Harry - With our options pretty much clarified at #8, I gotta question:

Is Simmons significantly better for us than Buccannon was? As a S? As a LB? Both? How so?

I like the idea of Simmons playing next to Budda in deep patrol - but only if he's the real deal. I also could get excited about Simmons wreaking havoc as a LB - but, like the safety position, he's got to be "can't miss" or why bother.

The Lamb option is as interesting as it is unorthodox, but making him another present to K Murray would be an admission that we blew the overall WR-strategy of last year's draft.

I like the possibility of trading back for one or more picks, but finding a trading partner is iffy and cedes control to another team.

Let the fun begin!
 
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Harry - With our options pretty much clarified at #8, I gotta question:

Is Simmons significantly better for us than Buccannon was? As a S? As a LB? Both? How so?

I like the idea of Simmons playing next to Budda in deep patrol - but only if he's the real deal. I also could get excited about Simmons wreaking havoc as a LB - but, like the safety position, he's got to be "can't miss" or why bother.

The Lamb option is as interesting as it is unorthodox, but making him another present to K Murray would be an admission that we blew the overall WR-strategy of last year's draft.

I like the possibility of trading back for one or more picks, but finding a trading partner is iffy and cedes control to another team.

Let the fun begin!
Simmons is real and would be a fine choice. Much better than Buc. I don’t let previous misses govern this year’s choices. Drafts stand alone. I’m just a believer in chemistry. Murray & Lamb have it. This is a rare opportunity to make this offense truly explosive. I’m good with taking the chance and going back a little. Lamb figures to be more desirable for the Cards than those close behind.
 

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The first pick is almost impossible to blow. All these choices are sound. They should be productive and durable.

I am in NJ, and I heard Keim just say "hold my beer"



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Harry. What do you think of offensive tackle Isaiah Wilson as our 2nd round pick? I've seen some drafts where he's picked in bottom of first round but others where he goes in third. Thank you for your contributions to this board.
 

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Harry - With our options pretty much clarified at #8, I gotta question:

Is Simmons significantly better for us than Buccannon was? As a S? As a LB? Both? How so?

I like the idea of Simmons playing next to Budda in deep patrol - but only if he's the real deal. I also could get excited about Simmons wreaking havoc as a LB - but, like the safety position, he's got to be "can't miss" or why bother.

The Lamb option is as interesting as it is unorthodox, but making him another present to K Murray would be an admission that we blew the overall WR-strategy of last year's draft.

I like the possibility of trading back for one or more picks, but finding a trading partner is iffy and cedes control to another team.

Let the fun begin!

I could care less what drafting Lamb says about last year's draft. We learned that last year's bust sometimes means this year's luck (Kyler Murray) and if Lamb is seen as someone who can finally come in and take the reins from Larry you take that dude every time. That being said, Wirfs or Simmons are fine picks at 1 too. And at least 1 of these guys will be there at 8.
 
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Harry. What do you think of offensive tackle Isaiah Wilson as our 2nd round pick? I've seen some drafts where he's picked in bottom of first round but others where he goes in third. Thank you for your contributions to this board.

Interesting name and from what I hear you’ve got him in the right round (2) but the Cards’ pick would be early.

No one expected him to declare this year. Next year he could well go round one. Now he’s a project. His technique is very raw. He’s a mountain and athletic for his size. He’s a good drive blocker. In pass protection he tends to over compensate for outside speed moves. The NFL guys will flip back inside. If he takes a tighter inside set he’ll have trouble with speed rushers. The Cards have a great line coach and if anyone can make him work it’s Kugler. Still I’d pass but he might well be best available OT when the Cards second pick is called.

Thanks for the kind words. I try my best but at my age I confess I get quite a bit of help from former colleagues.
 

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