If Marcus Vick is on the board on day 2, do the Cards Roll the dice?

Marcus Vick is on the board on day 2, do the Cards roll the dice? Which round?

  • round 5

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • round 6

    Votes: 19 27.1%
  • round 7

    Votes: 19 27.1%
  • no way, he's a thug

    Votes: 26 37.1%

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If the Cardinals do not select a QB in the 1st round and Marcus Vick is on the board, do they roll the dice and select the troubled but talented bro of Mike Vick??

Funny thing, I was in a doctor's office recently and they had an old S.I. from last year raving about Marcus. This was of coarse before he went cookoo at the end of the season.
 

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no way..but not because I think he is a thug. I really don't think he is, but I also don't think he is any good.
 

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roll it i say - if we havent picked a QB by 6 or 7 then why not - whilst its risky on one hand - its low risk on another as how often does a pick taken then make it anyway!! Green can sit on him till he listens :eek:

also, i bet every team has a msg board asking the same Q this week too!
 

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I would take a chance on him, but NOT as a QB. Use him like the Steelers used Randle El. An awesome kick-returner and a 3rd WR capable of making a trick play work.
 

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BACH said:
I would take a chance on him, but NOT as a QB. Use him like the Steelers used Randle El. An awesome kick-returner and a 3rd WR capable of making a trick play work.

He is not fast enough or quick enough to return kicks or be a WR. He does not have wheels like Mike. He can only be used as a QB. He has a better arm than Mike and has better on-field intelligence than his brother. Why not take a chance.
 

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round 6 and 7 guys have little or no shot. Take him and see. At 6 and 7 there's little risk.

to think there is any value at 6 and 7 is obsurd...sure there are a few gems that have been found (Brady), but there's a thousand driving trucks for a living listening to Sirius radio too.
 

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ARZCardinals said:
round 6 and 7 guys have little or no shot. Take him and see. At 6 and 7 there's little risk.

to think there is any value at 6 and 7 is obsurd...sure there are a few gems that have been found (Brady), but there's a thousand driving trucks for a living listening to Sirius radio too.

There are also hundreds who are making a contribution in the NFL, so they arent throw away picks either.
 

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joeshmo said:
There are also hundreds who are making a contribution in the NFL, so they arent throw away picks either.


I totally agree. There are even a number of FA's not drafted that make NFL rosters and contribute. Also think about how many players that are drafted and fall flat on their face.

Also wasn't Pat Tillman selected by the Cardinals in the 7th round?

Picks in the 6th and 7th rounds are not throw away picks unless the drafting teams have not done their research.
 
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I'd rather take Reggie McNeal on day two.

i with you on this. i believe mcneal has more upside than vick. if mcneal their when the cardinals pick in round 4 then i say take him.
 

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azcardsfan1616 said:
He is not fast enough or quick enough to return kicks or be a WR. He does not have wheels like Mike. He can only be used as a QB. He has a better arm than Mike and has better on-field intelligence than his brother. Why not take a chance.

From The War Room:
Vick arrived at the Combine and answered questions about -- what else? -- his character. "I want to show them the type of person I am, not the person some people make me out to be -- that I'm a bad guy," he said. "Those people don't know me." Few scouts doubt Vick's athleticism. What general managers want to know is whether he's disciplined enough to survive the rigors all young quarterbacks must endure -- even if that means being a backup for a year or two. Vick offers a simple response: He's learned from his indiscretions. Vick's job is to convince NFL scouts his indiscretions are over and that he's ready to play professional football. -- Associated Press

An agent friend called the other day and told me something that will be disturbing for most, yet revealing at the same time: Vick will be picked a lot higher than you think in April's NFL draft.

Vick is working out with noted trainer Chip Smith of Competitive Edge Sports in Atlanta. And Vick is absolutely killing there. His 40-yard dash has dipped into the low 4.3s and high 4.2s, while trainers at CES say Vick is showing uncanny explosion and redirection in various drills. Now he is at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, and you'll be hearing about Vick's ridiculous numbers (Wonderlic notwithstanding).
So what does it all mean?

Look, I said last season that Marcus was a better quarterback than his brother, and I was called an idiot by just about everyone (including my editor). But I'm telling you right now, Marcus Vick is a steal if someone can set him straight. And you better believe someone in the NFL will try.

Don't even bring up the Maurice Clarett saga. They're similar in one way only: They're both turds. At least at this point.

Clarett showed up at the NFL Combine out of shape and with a surely attitude. He ran a 7.32 40 (I kid; but that fark photo of Clarett finishing behind the old man was an absolute classic) and turned off NFL execs with his standoffish personality.

Vick will be different. Scouts will rave about his pure athletic ability after he works out. And he'll be contrite (trust me, he's good at it; he fooled me in April 2005). The only question then becomes: Can he hold it together mentally?

Any player who knows he's in the spotlight, who knows everyone is watching his every move and still pulls a gun on teenagers at a fast food joint is missing more than a few cards from his deck. If the Vikings weren't still staving off the Good Ship Lollypop P.R. fiasco, I'd say Minnesota is the perfect spot for Vick -- so he can continue his tutelage under QB coach Kevin Rogers, the only guy who has gotten through to Vick, albeit briefly.

My guess: Someone will take Vick on Day 1 of the draft. If he does what I think he'll do at the Combine, it's hard to pass up first round value past the third round.

No matter how risky. -- Matt Hayes, Sporting News
 

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ARZCardinals said:
round 6 and 7 guys have little or no shot. Take him and see. At 6 and 7 there's little risk.

to think there is any value at 6 and 7 is obsurd...sure there are a few gems that have been found (Brady), but there's a thousand driving trucks for a living listening to Sirius radio too.
Little or no shot? Our 6th and 7th round picks the last three years. Nuff said.
Lance Mitchell LB Oklahoma
LeRon McCoy WR Indiana (Pa.)
Nick Leckey C Kansas State
John Navarre QB Michigan
Reggie Wells T Clarion
Tony Gilbert LB Georgia
 

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BACH said:
But I'm telling you right now, Marcus Vick is a steal if someone can set him straight. And you better believe someone in the NFL will try.

The only question then becomes: Can he hold it together mentally?

If someone can set him straight and if he can hold it together? I'll pass. His talent doesn't overweigh his problems.
 

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Round 6 or 7, I'd give it a shot, but with a SHORT leash. People DO change, just not many or often.

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