Impressive Quarter back

[Mulli]

I wasn't grading on a scale. He's a rookie playing in the first game of the season. No, he's not average as compared to veteran starters at the position. He's probably better than average if you compare him to the long list of rookies playing in this situation for the past 50 years. He did some things poorly (accuracy, timing), he did others well (pocket presence, demeanor).

JMHO

Ya, he was under constant pressure and didn't have a lot of breakdowns, like some QB's we can all rattle off the top of our head.

Max Kolb
John Hall
Matt Skelton
Derek TakesThisSeriously

 

[Cardiac]

Wilson did fairly well considering. Don't know what Carrol was thinking starting a rookie QB against our blitz crazy D. He may be their future so Carrol wants to get the learning curve started asap but is Flynn really that bad?

Hawks next opponent is the Cowboys. Another very good D with a DC that likes to blitz and they have an elite pass rusher.

Then they play the Packers. Not a scary D but they will put a lot of pressure on Wilson to match the Packers Offense output.

 

[kerouac9]

I think he's going to be fine. I'm seeing you guys through around words like "average" and "ordinary." Guys, he wasn't supposed to make the team, much less start in his first game as a rook. "Average" and "Ordinary" under these circumstances is pretty good, IMO.

I think the thing that impressed me the most is his pocket presence. The Cards were in the backfield all day and he was giving them fits by moving in the pocket.

Does today signal greatness for him? No way; not by a long shot. But it also doesn't signal his demise. He looks to be on the way to becoming a decent NFL QB, IMO.

I know that the Ken Whisenhunt Experience would suggest otherwise, but in the NFL, rookie third-round picks are generally expected to make the team.

Good news: he didn't throw three INTs like some of the starting rookies. He looked like a below-average QB playing on the road against a structurally difficult defense. But, to me, he didn't look like a guy who's going to blossom into a star. I wasn't one of the posters who were predicting disaster for him, but how many third-downs did he really pick up through the air?

One underrated aspect (and this may be based on officiating) was his ability to bait our secondary into committing pass interference penalties. That's a skill in the NFL, in combination with this receivers.

But the fact of the matter is that he was in the position to win the game for his team in four tries from the four yard line, and wasn't able to complete a pass to 6'3" Braylon Edwards over 5'8" Mike Adams.

If he turns into a league-average quarterback over the year, that's a pretty good accomplishment for a third-round pick. But he's not there yet, and there weren't very many "highs" to talk away from his performance.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I was impressed. He shows amazing poise and presence for a rookie. Makes a lot of smart decisions and is of course, extremely athletic. I also think he's got more than he needs in arm strength.

However, he is short. Not even 6 feet. I think his height more than anything else will hold him back. In order for him to become a high-quality NFL starter, aside cashing in on a delayed growth spurt, he would have to be letter-perfect in every other phase of the QB position.
Certainly could happen... and, given his maturity, smarts and presence, I could see it happening. Time will tell...
Just glad Baldwin dropped the laser Wilson threw him in the end zone on the final drive!

 

[john h]

Kolb was very impressive in the last drive. But Russell Wilson is for real. If he continues to play as he did today, he will be a real star in the NFL. He was calm, cool and collected and accurate with most of his passes.

I really was not that impressed with Wilson. He made some good plays but with 4 plays to get the winning TD into the end zone he failed to produce. I am happy your old QB was not out there and is a backup at TN. I think he would have put that ball into the end-zone on your last drive. In fact I wish we had him as he would likely be a starter for us. It is early and Wilson may turn out great but in this game he was average at best and less than average when the final drive came which could have won the game.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Good composure. Seemed like they kept the reigns in on him. Didnt seem as dynamic as he had in preseason and college which is to be expected. The last 3 plays I was convinced he was going to tuck and run.

RG3 looked great. Hes still not better then Andrew Luck. One game doesnt change that. Just for reference sake here is Andrew Lucks and Peytom Mannings first games as starting QB:

Manning @ home against MIA: 21/37 302 Yards 1 TD 3 INTs

Luck Yesterday on road against Chicago: 23/45 309 Yards 1 TD 3 Ints

Kinda eerie. Peyton ended up throwing 28 INTS his first year, but I dont think Luck will get that high. Still have no question he is head and shoulder above Bob Griffin. Like RG3 but seems to me injuries will be a factor based onhis body type and style of play. Will be fun to watch.

 

[Redheart]

Hmmmm...Wilson to Wilson looked good...

Congratulations AW on your INT!

 

[Mulli]

Hmmmm...Wilson to Wilson looked good...

Congratulations AW on your INT!

That pass looked like a punt. AW almost called for a fair catch.

 

[kerouac9]

Hmmmm...Wilson to Wilson looked good...

Congratulations AW on your INT!

That entire sequence was awesome. I wasn't watching the game live, but I checked in on my phone right when that play happened, and the game cast from that play didn't make any sense to me:

10) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep middle intended for 89-D.Baldwin INTERCEPTED by 24-A.Wilson at ARI 12. 24-A.Wilson to ARI 10 for -2 yards. Lateral to 21-P.Peterson to ARI 28 for 18 yards (68-B.Giacomini).

Um... okay. But when I watched it on DVR, it was amazing and would've been an ESPN SportsCenter Top Play if it had actually worked out.

 

[Pariah]

That entire sequence was awesome. I wasn't watching the game live, but I checked in on my phone right when that play happened, and the game cast from that play didn't make any sense to me:



Um... okay. But when I watched it on DVR, it was amazing and would've been an ESPN SportsCenter Top Play if it had actually worked out.

It was SOOO heads-up for Wilson to hand the ball off to Peterson. There was a lot of running around--it was a little chaotic IIRC. Very smart play.

 

[ryanshaug]

Yeah sorry, but Wilson wasn't anything to write home about. He had only a couple of down field passes, most of his stuff was short yardage crap. He was the benefit a lot of bad calls. He may be a decent QB someday, but he's not going to be anything spectacular. Will end up being a career backup in somewhere.

 

[kerouac9]

It was SOOO heads-up for Wilson to hand the ball off to Peterson. There was a lot of running around--it was a little chaotic IIRC. Very smart play.

I don't know about head's up. Go back and watch the replay, and you can see Peterson calling for the ball, and then comments by the play-by-play guys that the defense "was trying to set up a wall". Remarkable that this was something that we apparently worked on during the preseason. It would have been fantastic if the sequence had worked out.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Kolb was very impressive in the last drive. But Russell Wilson is for real. If he continues to play as he did today, he will be a real star in the NFL. He was calm, cool and collected and accurate with most of his passes.

100% disagree. He had drives continued repeatedly by phantom pass interference calls, free no sacks, and extra time outs.

He had shortened fields due to special teams as well.

Out of all of it, I never thought he was going to win. Wouldn't take him over Skelton, Kolb, or even Lindley.

 

[Big Deal]

I think he's going to be fine. I'm seeing you guys through around words like "average" and "ordinary." Guys, he wasn't supposed to make the team, much less start in his first game as a rook. "Average" and "Ordinary" under these circumstances is pretty good, IMO.

I think the thing that impressed me the most is his pocket presence. The Cards were in the backfield all day and he was giving them fits by moving in the pocket.

Does today signal greatness for him? No way; not by a long shot. But it also doesn't signal his demise. He looks to be on the way to becoming a decent NFL QB, IMO.

In what universe is a 3rd round pick not expected to make a team? Why waste a 3rd round pick on someone who isn't supposed to make the team? It isn't like he was the undrafted Max Hall or anything.

 

[gmabel830]

I was fairly impressed by Wilson -- not so much statistically, but in his pocket presence and decision making. As others have mentioned, I think their game plan was to keep the reins on him and have him not make mistakes that would cost his team the game. A few random thoughts:

1. There were at least a couple of plays where a guy came in unblocked and he was able to get the ball out/complete quickly. I thought to myself (at the time): "Man, Kolb would have been half way back to Texas on that play." He also showed pretty good ability to escape the pocket and turn negative plays into at least modest gains (blame our bad tackling if you'd like - but I think guy has some quickness back there).

2. He obviously doesn't have a rifle arm, but he did throw the ball downfield a couple of times and seems like he has an arm adequate to do so -- might need to work on deep ball accuracy though (didn't really see enough opportunities to properly assess it).

3. The INT was essentially a hail mary and I don't blame the backward lateral on him -- it was a horrible play call that got blown up. He didn't make the mistakes that ultimately cost his team the game.

4. We'll see how the season plays out, but I think/hope we have a true, elite, top 5-10 defense in the NFL. If our defense is as good as I hope it will be, you have to take the context of what he was facing into account - especially for his first ever start.

If I'm a Seattle fan, I would be thinking I saw something that could be built on. He's obviously not Drew Brees, but I think the guy still has a lot of potential.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

About the only good thing anyone has said about him is that he had poise. Big deal, that gets you nothing if you can't play. Max Hall had moxie, what did that do for him? Wilson's PLAY left alot to be desired.

 

[Pariah]

About the only good thing anyone has said about him is that he had poise. Big deal, that gets you nothing if you can't play. Max Hall had moxie, what did that do for him? Wilson's PLAY left alot to be desired.

Poise and pocket presence--he extended a lot of plays that a guy with less poise and pocket presence wouldn't have been able to.

Maybe he won't amount to anything. I don't think this game tells us that either way, though.

 

[Pariah]

I know that the Ken Whisenhunt Experience would suggest otherwise, but in the NFL, rookie third-round picks are generally expected to make the team. /QUOTE]

In what universe is a 3rd round pick not expected to make a team? Why waste a 3rd round pick on someone who isn't supposed to make the team? It isn't like he was the undrafted Max Hall or anything.

You're right. My bad.

Point remains unchanged. He's a rookie. He wasn't expected to win the job. It was his first game. Away. Against a defense that put a lot of pressure on him. Did he light the world on fire? No. He played well considering, IMO.

For the life of me I don't understand why this board is so quick to write him off. This game was not definitive.

 

[CardLogic]

Point remains unchanged. He's a rookie. He wasn't expected to win the job. It was his first game. Away. Against a defense that put a lot of pressure on him. Did he light the world on fire? No. He played well considering, IMO.

For the life of me I don't understand why this board is so quick to write him off.

I don't think the majority of the posts in the thread are dismissing Wilson, moreso it's just a reaction to Paso Fino's opening post pronouncing him an All-Star.

Clearly, Wilson has shown some moxie! And we all know how far that will get you.

 

[kerouac9]

Point remains unchanged. He's a rookie. He wasn't expected to win the job. It was his first game. Away. Against a defense that put a lot of pressure on him. Did he light the world on fire? No. He played well considering, IMO.

For the life of me I don't understand why this board is so quick to write him off. This game was not definitive.

Who's writing him off? I'm not in that camp that says there's no way he succeeds. In some ways he reminds me of a (very) young Drew Brees. His play reminds me a lot of Jeff Garica. What he did well was stay behind the line of scrimmage and not try and take of running. In that way he did operate within the offense.

But I didn't see "special" qualities from him yesterday. At any point, really. Point to one quality drive. Heck, Wilson attempted 34 passes. Point to five quality attempts.

The thing with Brees and Garcia is that they took ages to become above-average QBs in the NFL. I'd be really happy if Carroll and his staff spent so much time waiting for Russell Wilson to figure it out.

 

[Pariah]

Who's writing him off?

These guys:

Anybody who thinks Russell Wilson is going to be good is delusional.

Wilson sucked.

I just didn't see anything that makes him a NFL starting QB.

Will end up being a career backup in somewhere.

Wouldn't take him over Skelton, Kolb, or even Lindley.

 

[Mulli]

These guys:

Please go back and look at each of his attempts and point out the quality ones.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Kolb was very impressive in the last drive. But Russell Wilson is for real. If he continues to play as he did today, he will be a real star in the NFL. He was calm, cool and collected and accurate with most of his passes.

The only Wilson I want is in Arkansas

 

[Pariah]

Please go back and look at each of his attempts and point out the quality ones.

No, thank you. I've stated my position and my reasoning. I don't need to convince anyone else. I think what's going on here is a quick dismissal of a rival's young key player because it makes us feel better to think they've made a mistake. I just don't see it like that--it's waaaay too early to make that call.

 

[Mulli]

No, thank you. I've stated my position and my reasoning. I don't need to convince anyone else. I think what's going on here is a quick dismissal of a rival's young key player because it makes us feel better to think they've made a mistake. I just don't see it like that--it's waaaay too early to make that call.

Jeez sorry. What mistake are you referring to? I didn't have anything to do with the draft.