Can he play power forward?
Isn't right now the best time for a trade?
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Can he play power forward?
He can actually. Got the size to do it. He's an excellent rebounder and often works in the paint.
But I can picture Denver laughing their arses off when the Suns even mention the possibility of a trade happening between them including 'Melo.
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Completely agree.
I can't think of a one-two punch combo of franchise players ever paired together that were so good offensively....and yet so bad on the defensive end(speaking of Nash/Amare).
A match made in heaven for PHX basketball.
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No. Your extreme exaggeration completely invalidates your point. Your point is that Hedo is a decent defender and that Amare is horrible. It's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on this board in awhile, and that's saying something.
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There were times when Amare was making sure he didn't foul, which was the case most of the time his first couple years under D'Antoni, when he made no effort whatsoever to defend the paint. He'd still get back on defense and stay between his man and the basket fairly well. His size kept him from getting pushed around the way Hedo does and that plus his jumping ability made him harder to shoot over.
Another thing I've noticed about Hedo is that if he has a tough cover, he'll switch off him at any opportunity and leave an even smaller player to deal with his man. You never saw Amare do that.
Heck, just watch how routinely teammates come to double Hedo's man early to try to get the ball out of his hands. It did happen with Amare at times but typically the double on his man came after he'd started his move - a normal defensive help manuever.
The one area where Hedo is actually a better defender is that he doesn't commit as many useless ticky-tack fouls.
Another thing I've noticed about Hedo is that if he has a tough cover, he'll switch off him at any opportunity and leave an even smaller player to deal with his man. You never saw Amare do that.
Heck, just watch how routinely teammates come to double Hedo's man early to try to get the ball out of his hands. It did happen with Amare at times but typically the double on his man came after he'd started his move - a normal defensive help manuever.
The one area where Hedo is actually a better defender is that he doesn't commit as many useless ticky-tack fouls.
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I was wondering if I was just being too harsh on Hedo or if I was actually seeing what I thought I was seeing. Glad to know someone else has noticed him switching to the easier opponent.
As for ticky-tack fouls, I'm not sure that's all Amare's fault. I think he damaged his relationship with the refs early on and that leads to many of the ticky-tack calls. Actually, I guess that is his fault in that it's his actions that have biased the refs against him. If I were a coach, even before I worked on his defense, the first thing I'd teach him is how to work the refs and yelling "and one" is the first thing I'd get rid of.
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Solution, trade J.Rich for a BIG... and or a YOUNG stud
move Hedo to SG.
PG: Nash
SG: Hedo
SF: Hill
PF: Warrick or a BIG
C: Frye
move Hedo to SG.
PG: Nash
SG: Hedo
SF: Hill
PF: Warrick or a BIG
C: Frye
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Hedo guarding Kobe would be pretty funny. I rather play Hill as the SG than Turk if this was the case. JRich is going to get you some salary cap relief with an expiring scrub and maybe a pick. This is the NBA bro...
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Wow...I know I disagree with you often but your shifting blame of Amare's lack of defense to the refs and ticky tack fouls?? It's one thing to support Amare, he is a gifted athlete and NBA player, but making excuses like that one is just inexcusable IMO. Amare got to the free throw line a lot in games, if NBA referees really wanted to screw him, they'd let him get hacked and not even blow the whistle.
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Wow...I know I disagree with you often but your shifting blame of Amare's lack of defense to the refs and ticky tack fouls?? It's one thing to support Amare, he is a gifted athlete and NBA player, but making excuses like that one is just inexcusable IMO. Amare got to the free throw line a lot in games, if NBA referees really wanted to screw him, they'd let him get hacked and not even blow the whistle.
How in the world did you draw this conclusion from my post? I'm not excusing his defense. Now, if you're really going to disagree with my contention that the way you treat the refs will ultimately determine the kind of breaks you receive from them, then fine, go for it. But don't take that point and use it to suggest I'm blaming Amare's defense on the refs.
His over-reactions to referee calls and especially his "and one" yell have to irritate those guys. Anybody that watches the NBA can see that some players get away with more things than others do and it's because some players have learned how to deal with the refs. Amare hasn't learned this very basic lesson and it frequently costs him with ticky-tack calls that would never be whistled on Duncan or Gasol. If you don't think the refs are influenced by player behavior, give Rasheed Wallace a call and ask his opinion.
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We need to go after Thabeet if the Grizzlies shop him that hard.
We need size desperately and Thabeet has enough potential that the is worth a gamble.
We need size desperately and Thabeet has enough potential that the is worth a gamble.
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If you ask me, Amare is just as good defending PFs as Hedo is defending SFs.
Turkoglu hasnt been that bad defensively ever since playin his natural position (SF) off the bench and Amare has also improved defensively in NY.
Turkoglu hasnt been that bad defensively ever since playin his natural position (SF) off the bench and Amare has also improved defensively in NY.
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Wow that would be a great pickup. Are they shopping him?
What is great about Thabeet??
He cant run in the Suns offense, looks soft, stiff and clumsy. Rolo is a lot better than Thabeet.
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If the SUNS were rebuilding Thabeet would be a worthy project IMO.....but we're not,so i dont think he'll be targeted.
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One of my worst Suns nightmares is that we'll awake any day now and discover we actually are rebuilding. We're just not very good at it.
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Dalambert is not going to play Wednesday for the Kings for personal reasons. I so hope the Suns are after him.
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Except Thabeet actually has potential to board the ball. He actually puts effort on the glass when he gets playing time instead of trying to just smack it with one hand which is the only thing that Lopez does.
Not to mention Thabeet doesn't get injured every time a player touches him a little too hard.
Thabeet>Lopez
What have you seen to make you think Thabeet has the potential to be anything other than a complete stiff? Why else do you think Memphis is so willing to get rid of him the year after taking him with the 2nd pick of the draft?
Lopez this season, despite playing injured before he sat out, has still rebounded better than Thabeet ever has during his time the NBA. And based on his play last season, Lopez has at least demonstrated he is capable of being a starting big man in this league if he can ever stay healthy.
The way you treat the ref's has nothing to do with getting breaks or not. Just take a look at Nash as he gets hacked quite a bit without getting very many calls.
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I'm guessing you're suggesting that Nash treats the refs well. I'm not sure I'd agree with this. Nash and Amare complain to the refs about as much as anyone in the NBA.
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But that's never gonna happen cause he's too lazy to hit the gym.
Work ethic is needed if you wanna have a good long career in the NBA.
Oh right so now it's Robin's work ethic.
Or it could be that just about all 7 footers have injury troubles now and then.
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Its ok if it was every now and then but Lopez gets injured everytime someone touches him a little too hard.
Only Oden is more fragile than this guy!
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Lopez's most recent injury was caused by Dudley falling in to his knee causing a hyper-extension. How exactly is that prevented?
His previous injury was a bulging disc, and before that a foot problem; both are likely related to his extreme height. People who have bodies that push the extremes of human norms usually have health problems.
