Jalen Smith

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,012
Reaction score
58,299
I'm hoping the Suns address power forward in free agency but I thought it would be interesting to start examining players that might fit the Suns needs no matter the position.

It would be fun to cover a player a day or something like it with everyone joining in.

I will start with power forward prospect Jalen Smith age 20. Smith is 6'10" and weighs 220 pounds.

Tankathon has him going #27 in their current mock but I think players will move around a lot before the draft.

NBA Draft Room has him going #21 and describes his strengths and weaknesses at the link below:

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/jalen-smith.html
 
OP
OP
Mainstreet

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,012
Reaction score
58,299
Here is some video on Jalen Smith.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 

Raze

Suns fan since '89
Joined
May 20, 2017
Posts
626
Reaction score
599
Location
Arizona
I love talking about this guy. Great prospect that is getting zero love. I wrote this up on the Draft thread so I thought I'd move it here.
I can't figure why so many mocks have Smith in the 20's. I like him better than Jaden McDaniels who keeps projecting into the teens. This guy fits the mold for the modern day PF. (Anyone else see Raj Thomas from What's Happening when they watch Smith? Must be the goggles.)

Smith is a SOLID rebounder who does a great job fighting for position. Excellent at sealing his man on box outs. Can easily see him near 10 boards a game as he matures. Good timing on blocks, with room to grow. His shot form is also impressive. Good line from elbow down. Has a good rhythm. His release is a tad low, but nothing alarming at 6-10. His 37% from 3 doesn't seem to be a fluke. Could also end up an 80% FT shooter with his good form (75% this year).

My biggest concern is his stiffness. He plays too rigid, especially below the waist. (Needs to take some dance classes.) This can be a big problem against more agile NBA PFs that he'll face. Too me, this is his biggest knock. It can make or break him. I also wonder how well he'll be able to put the ball down from the 3 and attack the rim. He'll need to be two dimensional from out there. He also doesn't appear to have a big vertical, but he compensates well with hard work and timing. I'll be very interested to see his measurables.

He would be a great PF prospect coming off the bench for the Suns, especially when DA comes out, since he'll likely do well on the boards. If he can increase his agility I could really seeing him being a great rebounding/D role player.
 
OP
OP
Mainstreet

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,012
Reaction score
58,299
I love talking about this guy. Great prospect that is getting zero love. I wrote this up on the Draft thread so I thought I'd move it here.

I can't see this guy lasting into the twenties either. When I started looking at the prospects I started looking at later prospects because I thought there was a better of them being available when the Suns draft. His video and scouting reports blew me away.
 

JerkFace

(Formerly offset) i have a special purpose
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
3,751
Reaction score
2,340
Location
Surprise
Jalen Smith spent his freshman and half his sophomore year looking like a solid college player with limited skills that would transfer over to the NBA, but the second half of the season he flipped the switch and started showing some 3pt range and defensive consistency and turned himself into a legit pro prospect. I think he was serious hurt by the cancelling of March madness. I had him pegged as a player that could see his stock seriously improve during March madness.
 
OP
OP
Mainstreet

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,012
Reaction score
58,299
Jalen, please be there at #10 if the Suns keep the pick. I have a feeling there are better players in the draft than I initially thought.
 

overseascardfan

ASFN Addict
Joined
Apr 9, 2005
Posts
8,807
Reaction score
2,096
Location
Phoenix
I know he's slated in the 20s range but the talent from arguably #6 on to end of first round is pretty close with little drop off. I wouldn't consider Jalen Smith a reach at #11 or #12 but some will say its a reach. It can't be any worse than taking Cam Johnson at #13 last year. Last year's draft is pretty damn similar in being a 3 player draft. Edwards, Ball & Wiseman are considered Top 3 with Toppen arguably the 4th best player but no player in this draft should be considered a face of the franchise guy.
 

JerkFace

(Formerly offset) i have a special purpose
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
3,751
Reaction score
2,340
Location
Surprise
In his final 18 games Jalen averaged almost 3.5 3pt attempts per game and made them at a 40% clip. He also averaged 17.2 pts, 10.8 rbs, and 2.4 blks.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 
Last edited:

1Sun

ASFN Addict
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Sep 8, 2018
Posts
8,750
Reaction score
1,129
Location
Chandler, AZ
I know he's slated in the 20s range but the talent from arguably #6 on to end of first round is pretty close with little drop off. I wouldn't consider Jalen Smith a reach at #11 or #12 but some will say its a reach. It can't be any worse than taking Cam Johnson at #13 last year. Last year's draft is pretty damn similar in being a 3 player draft. Edwards, Ball & Wiseman are considered Top 3 with Toppen arguably the 4th best player but no player in this draft should be considered a face of the franchise guy.

I would concur with this. I don't think Jalen Smith is anywhere near the reach at 10 this year than Cam Johnson was at 11 last year.
 
Last edited:

Raze

Suns fan since '89
Joined
May 20, 2017
Posts
626
Reaction score
599
Location
Arizona
I know he's slated in the 20s range but the talent from arguably #6 on to end of first round is pretty close with little drop off. I wouldn't consider Jalen Smith a reach at #11 or #12 but some will say its a reach. It can't be any worse than taking Cam Johnson at #13 last year. Last year's draft is pretty damn similar in being a 3 player draft. Edwards, Ball & Wiseman are considered Top 3 with Toppen arguably the 4th best player but no player in this draft should be considered a face of the franchise guy.
I agree. Which begs the question: if the Suns truly desired Smith AND he's widely considered to go in the late 20's, do they attempt a trade back somewhere in the #17-22 range, gain some assets, and still land their guy? (If so, I personally hope JJ shows better wisdom in his trade back than he did last year.)

I could easily put Smith right behind:

Ball, Wiseman, Edwards, Avdija, Toppin, Haliburton, and Okongwu.

However, I'd put him before Hayes, Okoro, Carey, and Maledon. I guess, for now, I've got him #8 on my board. But since the perceived value is in the 20's it would be savvy to trade back somewhere in the middle.

Interestingly enough draftnet has Smith going in the 2nd round at the Suns old draft spot (#40 via Jackson trade). This guy gets NO respect.
 

hcsilla

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Sep 22, 2002
Posts
3,353
Reaction score
187
Location
Budapest,Hungary
Smith seems quite underrated, he reminds me of Jonathan Isaac more than Jaden McDaniels does who is usually compared to Isaac.
 

Superbone

Phoenix native; Lifelong Suns Fan
Supporting Member
Joined
Jul 31, 2005
Posts
6,337
Reaction score
3,475
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Any kid of Will Smith is good with me. Wait, who?
 

1Sun

ASFN Addict
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Sep 8, 2018
Posts
8,750
Reaction score
1,129
Location
Chandler, AZ
A bit of a reach, but given how much of a crap shoot this entire draft is, I would be fine with Smith at 10.
 

Yuma

Suns are my Kryptonite!
Joined
Jan 3, 2003
Posts
22,684
Reaction score
12,434
Location
Laveen, AZ
On ESPN they are saying there is a solid 9 players in one tier, and of course the next tier of players starts at 10. I can't remember the nine they rattled off.
 
OP
OP
Mainstreet

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,012
Reaction score
58,299
On ESPN they are saying there is a solid 9 players in one tier, and of course the next tier of players starts at 10. I can't remember the nine they rattled off.

There seems to be about nine players that many mocks like but I think there are some nice big men that should be available like Precious Achiuwa and Jalen Smith, also lots of wings and PG Kira Lewis is interesting.
 

JerkFace

(Formerly offset) i have a special purpose
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
3,751
Reaction score
2,340
Location
Surprise
On ESPN they are saying there is a solid 9 players in one tier, and of course the next tier of players starts at 10. I can't remember the nine they rattled off.
Yea, I completely agree with the “9 players in the top tier” sentiment. I am really hoping one of them drop, but history has taught us that some of those 9 will flop and some later players will flourish.
 

sinsay

Veteran
Joined
Mar 7, 2005
Posts
313
Reaction score
91
I think he is 3rd best big man in the draft.

He would be a perfect fit for the suns as a 4th or 5th scoring option.

Book
Ayton
Kelly
Smith/Rickey/Cam

He can also block shots, rebound and run the floor. He can help win games without scoring.

His outside shot is decent but will get better. He can avg 15 and 8 his second or third year
in the NBA.
 

JerkFace

(Formerly offset) i have a special purpose
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
3,751
Reaction score
2,340
Location
Surprise
I’ve had this saved in my bookmarks forever and finally got around to watching it. I apologize if it was posted in another thread. I really like this kids attitude and drive:

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 
OP
OP
Mainstreet

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,012
Reaction score
58,299
I’ve had this saved in my bookmarks forever and finally got around to watching it. I apologize if it was posted in another thread. I really like this kids attitude and drive:

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

More agile than Myles Turner? I will take it.
 

Raindog

I didn't come here to be liked!
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Posts
5,385
Reaction score
6,795
Jalen fills a much bigger immediate need for us than even PG of the future would have.
 

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
553,647
Posts
5,409,876
Members
6,319
Latest member
route66
Top