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It's over but, you know, NOW he's talking about things

loved Suns but says Sarver slighted him

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 8, 2005 12:00 AM

Joe Johnson is reliving his tumultuous summer while VH-1 is on his Beverly Hills hotel room television. It was not The Surreal Life, but that would have been appropriate for how the star guard went from a Suns team he adored to an Atlanta team that gets floored.

Johnson spoke candidly about his lack of faith in Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver, about disrespect, his conflicting emotions about leaving Phoenix and the truth about his perceived gentleman's persona.

Johnson still roots for Phoenix, so much that he attended the Suns-Lakers game last week at Staples Center. He knew how difficult basketball success would be in Atlanta, but his discontent with the Suns, a desire to return to the South and a five-year, $69.8 million contract moved Johnson.
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He is winless in three Hawks games and is wrestling with running a bad team. Among his consolation prizes: a $20 million payment from his Hawks deal and a 15,000-square-foot home.



But why did he leave? Here are his words:

Question: How did it come to this?
JJ: “Going into the season when we didn't get the contract done, I knew this was a possibility so it didn't surprise me at all. It may surprise a lot of other people, but it didn't surprise me one bit because this was the chance everybody was taking. It was nothing I meant to happen from Day 1. People have been talking about me wanting to be the man and all that. That was never the case.”

Do you realize how a lot of people in Phoenix saw you as the bad guy this summer for wanting to leave?
“I'm a grown man so me being put on blast or people saying what they want to say, I could care less. You can talk about me all you want to, just don't put your hands on me.”

Many people still don't understand why you left. Was it any one thing?
“It's a mixture of things. When I said I didn't want to come back, everybody looked at it like I was being selfish or I was jealous of some things, but that was never the case. Anybody who knows me knows I'm a quiet, laid-back person who doesn't say much. All I love to do is play basketball. Me getting fame and glory, I could care less about all of that stuff.”

Going back to the 2004 summer, how much did it bother you that the extension didn't get done when the Suns were within $5 million of your six-year, $50 million request?
“It didn't bother me. It motivated me more than anything. I was hoping that we could get things situated. I still feel like to this day that they brought Q (Quentin Richardson) in and I don't really know what they were doing. I don't think they meant for everything to work like it did. I don't think they meant to play me, Shawn (Marion) and Q at the same time, but it just so happened that it worked, so that's what we went with.

“It was tough, man, but I'm a workaholic and I put my best foot forward and got good results. If it wasn't for Steve Nash and Amaré (Stoudemire) and Shawn, none of this would be possible. I appreciate everything those guys did. “You look at it like $5million was nothing. But in the business, it's really not a lot. At first, they went, ‘We're not going to make an offer and just let you play it out.' It went from that to making an offer, then they were going to a Q deal and then I wouldn't accept it. They wouldn't go up five ($5million) more. All this was just a build-up in me. I never caused any problems the whole time I was there. I never raised any hell the whole season. Bryan and Jerry (Colangelo) and Robert Sarver never got any problems out of me. I was a professional and I handled it well.”

Did your personality work against you?
“I think they were taking my kindness as a weakness. I'm a quiet, subtle type that really doesn't say anything. It was like, ‘We'll throw this at Joe. I'm quite sure he'll accept it. Don't worry about it. He's not going anywhere.' If you push me to the limit, eventually I'm going to explode.”

What did you expect July 1 (the start of free agency)?
“I really didn't know. When they traded Q, I was like, ‘Well, it's definite then. I'm going to go back.' But after a while, I really didn't know. I knew there were a few teams who were showing a lot of interest. I just felt like Phoenix wasn't one of them.”

Did you expect an immediate Suns maximum offer?
“It wasn't really about the max. But I was assuming that the first day, bam, we can stamp it out there and it was over. But it didn't happen that way. We let other teams get involved and it happened.”

What did the Suns tell you initially?
“They basically told me and my agent: ‘Go get the best offer and bring it back.' And that's what we did. I just didn't feel like that was the right thing to do. If you're really showing interest in a person and you're telling them to go get the best offer and bring it back, what is that really telling you? Instead of telling you this is how much we'll give you and we'll go from there.”

Did it bother you that there was an impression out there that Phoenix would match any offer and that could affect your market value?
“They ran a few teams off by saying, ‘We're going to match anything,' everywhere. I felt like they were doing that to scare teams away. That way, they could get me for a bargain and it didn't happen that way. I ain't going to lie. I really didn't like that.”

How come you didn't want to meet them in early July?
“Not only was I out of town, but I just felt like we had all season to sit down and talk about what was coming up. Sarver wanted to talk and see how I felt. You know, whatever. We had eight, nine months for all that, so I didn't feel like there was a need.”

Was it like being another team's free agent?
“That's what I'm saying. When they got Steve, they all went out with Amaré to Dallas and talked to Steve to convince him. With me, I was already there. You don't have to try to lure me in to tell me about the city or about my team. I know what everything is like, so why try that? All you've got to do is tell me what I'm worth and they still wouldn't do it.”

So did any of that recruiting stuff, like the slick book showing photos of a glorious future in Phoenix, appeal to you?
“Don't get me wrong. It's a great (expletive) book. I love the book. I still look at it every day. It's a great (expletive) book. But that wasn't going to do it.”

When you last left Phoenix, you said you wanted to come back but that the NBA is a business. Did you definitely want to come back?
“Did I want to come back? I wouldn't have minded to come back. Now, I ain't going to say I wanted to come back. But if they would've brought me back, I would've been a professional about it.”

Were you still ticked about the previous summer?
“There were a few reasons. Like when I got hurt (an orbital fracture from a playoff fall)people were trying to get me back the last game of the Dallas series. It was tough. It was a hard decision. I thought I did everything in my power to help the organization. “For things to be handled the way they were this summer, I just felt like it wasn't right.”

Did it put pressure on you when it came out that you were cleared for basketball activity?
“Somebody said that, but I was not cleared. There was no way. I could see, but I couldn't see out of my peripheral vision. It was crazy. It made it seem like I didn't want to get back out there, but that was never the case.”

What did you think of the Suns' first offer? Was it $50million over six years?
“Yeah, it was. I was like, ‘We tried to get that last year.' I thought that was a bargain last year. Now, my value has gone up and you throw 50 out there? Man, please.”

After that offer, how did things progress? Is it true you didn't return any calls?
“I didn't talk to them. There was the time Robert and I talked when I told him I didn't want to come back. Before that, it was me, Robert, Bryan and Jerry on the phone with my agent. That's when we were trying to work things out. It never got done. They were always beating around that they didn't want to get into it right now and they hung up in our face. That was when they were like, ‘Go get your best offer,' and hung up. The conversation got heated. My agent was like, ‘Can you just give us an offer?' And they never would.”

What did you think of how Atlanta approached you?
“They were ready and very serious about it. I took it. There wasn't a hesitation.”

Were you ready to leave by then?
“Yeah, I was fed up and decided it was time for a change.”

Was it hard to tell Sarver that you didn't want him to match Atlanta's offer?
“It wasn't difficult when you're pushed to the limit. It was time. Maybe that was an easy way out. They were probably never going to match it in the first place. I don't think, to be honest, that they could've matched. By me saying that, it benefited them and made me look like I was a bad guy. It's a chance you take.”

Sarver said publicly that he was willing to match.
“That was after I said I didn't want to come back.”

If they had matched, how would it have been for you?
“It would've been sort of like last year. We lost Q, but I would've come with a great attitude. I wouldn't have been mad at Sarver or Bryan. I'm a professional, man. This is what I do. I do this for a living, so why would I come back with a crummy-ass attitude? That ain't me. I'm not even that type of guy and they know that. That's why it's crazy.”

If you had come back, did you realize someone like Marion was going to have to be moved within a year?
“When the season was over, me and Q talked for a long time and I was like, ‘Somebody's going to have to go because this is too much money.' When Q got traded, it was a shock to him and me.”

Did that upset you because you were close to Q?
“It was tough. Once Q was gone, I didn't know what to expect. I enjoyed myself there. I ain't going to lie to you. The fans were loyal. I got some great, great memories. Unfortunately, I had to leave.”

When Nash and Marion talked to you at Nash's charity game in Toronto, did that make any difference?“Oh, yeah. Those were two good friends of mine. It did make me think about it, but it was already done. I had already talked to Sarver.”

You don't think they would've matched any offer?
“I think they would've matched an offer but not a max offer. That was too much.”

Did you have a problem with being a third scoring option?
“We all knew the offense ran through Amaré. As far as being a third option, I didn't really look at it as that. Coach (Mike) D'Antoni did the best job he could with the type of team we had because everybody wanted the ball. He put me at backup point and I got a chance to make a lot more plays. I would've loved to get more involved. Everybody watching the Suns thought everything was peaches and cream.

“It was a lot of fun, but you can't keep everybody happy. We all accepted roles and nobody griped about it. At the same time, it wasn't like everybody was happy. We were winning, so how could you gripe? I knew I could do more than be a spot-up shooter.”

Were you upset with Stoudemire for calling you out at halftime of the Miami game?
“Amaré never went off on me about nothing in Miami. That never happened. (Johnson later said Stoudemire did criticize him.) I was (ticked) off because I really didn't touch the ball that game. I was mad about that (expletive).

How do you feel about Phoenix now?
“I still got love. I'm just not there. How things were handled is a different story.”

But at the end, Sarver said he asked if the money were equal, would you rather be in Atlanta and lose or here and win and you picked Atlanta?
“(Laughs). Man, please. I think if anybody in their right mind takes a look, they know that he didn't want to match.”

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1108joejohnson1108.html
 
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Sarver's answer to this

Sarver: JJ will regret leaving
Says agent cursed at him on phone

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 8, 2005 12:00 AM

In business, there are often two interpretations of just about any move. Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver sees that dynamic when reading Joe Johnson's comments on leaving Phoenix for Atlanta.

Sarver said the Suns called Johnson's agent, Arn Tellem, at midnight July 1 and were told: "It's all about the money. Give us the money." He said Tellem wanted a maximum-level deal but that Suns President and General Manager Bryan Colangelo told him: "If that's the only way to get it done, why would we offer it now?"

The Suns did ask Johnson to bring back an offer from another team. They were hoping to broker a deal like San Antonio did with Manu Ginobili for six years and $52 million, but said their first offer was for six years and $60 million, not $50 million as Johnson said.
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Atlanta coach Mike Woodson said the Hawks did not believe Phoenix would match a $70 million offer.

"That wasn't a hidden secret," Woodson said. "It was dangling out there."

Sarver understood Johnson's point that a meeting was unnecessary after spending a season together. Sarver also acknowledged that he hung up on Johnson and Tellem during one negotiating call, "because (Tellem) was firing F-bombs at me. It was totally uncalled for." Sarver said he wants Johnson to do well and wishes Johnson could revisit his choice.

"In three to six months, I really think Joe will say, 'I wish I was in Phoenix,' " Sarver said.

Jim Jackson is the only Suns player who regularly talks to Johnson. He said Johnson internalized a lot of issues in the past year.

"They might've pushed him over the edge," Jackson said. "Sometimes, as a player, you feel it's a lot of talk.

"How are you going to get mad at a guy who makes a decision that's best for himself?"

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1108JJside11080.html
 
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"because (Tellem) was firing F-bombs at me. It was totally uncalled for."

that's not a very fine tone to start a negotiation
no wonder everybody was pissed
 

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It was nice reading this article - kind of a long time coming.

So did any of that recruiting stuff, like the slick book showing photos of a glorious future in Phoenix, appeal to you?
“Don't get me wrong. It's a great (expletive) book. I love the book. I still look at it every day. It's a great (expletive) book. But that wasn't going to do it.”

This is probably my favorite quote of the interview. I really want to see this book!
 

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I've certainly critcized Sarver in the past, but this is the most important statement in the whole article.

Did you have a problem with being a third scoring option?
“We all knew the offense ran through Amaré. As far as being a third option, I didn't really look at it as that. Coach (Mike) D'Antoni did the best job he could with the type of team we had because everybody wanted the ball. He put me at backup point and I got a chance to make a lot more plays. I would've loved to get more involved. Everybody watching the Suns thought everything was peaches and cream.

“It was a lot of fun, but you can't keep everybody happy. We all accepted roles and nobody griped about it. At the same time, it wasn't like everybody was happy. We were winning, so how could you gripe? I knew I could do more than be a spot-up shooter.”


This is exactly what was being reported on Gambo and Ash through there sources in the Suns organization (probably Sarver himself). Blow Johnson tries to put his own spin on it, but its' pretty damn clear he wanted to be the man.
This one single quote leads me to believe Sarver's side much more than his. He seems like a guy who's spent one weak on a garbage team, realizing he doesn't have the talent to carry it, trying to say it wasn't his fault.

Well too damn band, despite my early objection to this move, the Suns made out like bandits, and it's gonna be beautiful in a couple years when JJ is at home watching Boris play in an all star game representing the Suns (assuming sarver doesn't mess up that contract :) ). Plus the picks, and not having to pay 14 million a year to a guy who's not worth it, pretty damn good.
 

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Oh yeah, chump johnson only further hurts any credibility he has by at first vehemently denying the amare/miami incident happened, then saying it did.
 

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Im amazed he basically came out and put the finish on making an ass of himself. The money parts of that article basically come off as a guy who ONLY cares purely about the maximum amount of dollars on his contract and not about winning/championships/fans.

"I thought that was a bargain last year. Now, my value has gone up and you throw 50 out there? Man, please.”

Oh give me a break you money grubbing mongrel, there are many other players of higher caliber then you making less money. 70 Freakin million for a guy who is not even an all-star and he acts like he is the second coming of Jordan... Why is it the spurs get people like Manu while we had to be disgraced with such a player.

I always thought that sarver at least had around 30% of the blame but this just seals it as barely (if any) of his fault. JJ and his agent were probably constantly coming off as arrogant and insulting and made any kind of negotiation process impossible.

“When the season was over, me and Q talked for a long time and I was like, ‘Somebody's going to have to go because this is too much money.'"

It is amazing he had knowledge of how bad the sum of all our contracts would be yet couldn't give a damn about that at all and scoffs at a 60 million offer. That is pure greed. Not caring about the well being of the whole team because he felt he could get a better offer and ended up with 15% more frontloaded offered from atlanta...ATLANTA...wow. All that fuss was over 15% because it was considered by him as extremely insulting for us to offer 60 million...I just feel this pit of disgust in my stomach right now.

Money talks I know that but you cannot let it completely control your life and decisions, Joe Johnson is like a shining beacon of how to be an inept fool. I hope you like that 15% Joe, you screwed over a team that at the time needed you, screwed yourself, and screwed over your fans for it. Be sure to shove it up your turkey along with your new side-serving of losses from ATL.
 
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I'm not even going to get into this money issue again...(even though im sure eric is not up this early...) All im going to say is i dont fault the guy for trying to get the maximum amount of money he could. My impression after reading this is the suns sleighted Joe a bit and he took it more personally than he probaly should have...Oh well....for the money, it looks like the Suns made the right decsion and we can all move on.....I dont think Joe is walking around his 15,000 square foot home in Atlanta on suicide watch just yet:rolleyes:

Viva la Boris.......gotta give the Suns credit.......anyone who continues to criticize management just isn't watching the results on the floor....
 

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Struck me that he's having big-time buyer's remorse, he's not ready to take responsibility for any of what happened, and he doesn't quite understand what 'it's all a business' REALLY means if he takes little things so personally.

Long live Boris!
 

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Its amazing how memory plays tricks. It was a 60 mil initial offer, and JJ had to know that was huge considering where the organization was salary-wise.

To demand the max immediately was ridiculous. JJ is not now, and never has been a max player. Plain and simple.

That's the way free agency works, if another team is willing to grossly over pay, you move on. The only thing I wish is that the NBA had some sort of compensation for lost free agents--like the NFL.
 

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That's the way free agency works, if another team is willing to grossly over pay, you move on. The only thing I wish is that the NBA had some sort of compensation for lost free agents--like the NFL.

You mean like Boris Diaw and two 1st round picks? ;)
 

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and he doesn't quite understand what 'it's all a business' REALLY means if he takes little things so personally.

Very well put. Whenever a player makes a cold, financially motivated decision, it's "all a business," but if a team does exactly the same thing, it's a high crime.

What's done is done. If Johnson stays in Phoenix for a maximum contract, Marion has to get traded. So if Marion keeps playing well, the Suns come out ahead, no matter what happens with Diaw and the picks.
 

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Just because JJ and his agent "demanded" the max doesn't necessarily mean
they expected the max, or felt JJ deserved the max. It's only common sense
that when you enter negotiations, your opening position is higher than what
you're willing to accept.

Maybe JJ was overly sensitive over perceived slights from the organization
but I think Sarver made a big mistake telling them to go find another
offer before he himself put a firm offer on the table. We all wish JJ was
thicker-skinned about some of the "insults" he felt he was getting from
the Suns, but I'd also say Sarver should have been thicker-skinned in
negotiating, no matter how abrasive he found Tellem's negotiating tactics.
At the very least, it was a severe misreading of the market to assume
that JJ wouldn't find someone desperate enough to offer him the max.
Basically, what I get out of this interview (and other articles) is that
this was a situation screaming out for someone to step up and be the
"bigger" man, and unfortunately, neither side could find it in themselves
to do that.
 

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"If it wasn't for Steve Nash and Amaré (Stoudemire) and Shawn, none of this would be possible. I appreciate everything those guys did."

So if it took these guys to make you look good Joe, why would you think the Suns should give you the kind of money one pays the stars of your team?
 

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KloD said:
"If it wasn't for Steve Nash and Amaré (Stoudemire) and Shawn, none of this would be possible. I appreciate everything those guys did."

So if it took these guys to make you look good Joe, why would you think the Suns should give you the kind of money one pays the stars of your team?
especially since if we signed him one of them would have to go.
 

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So he was pissed when they signed Q and thought Q was going to replace him in the starting lineup (nevermind that the Suns had no bench at the time). Then he demands to be payed more than Q to get an extention done and the Suns refuse because up to that point JJ had played about 2 months of consistent basketball (after the Marbury trade) and had been hot and cold his whole career. Then he and Q both start and he's pissed because his role isn't big enough on the team and he wants the ball more. Then he demands a max contract on day 1 of free agency when he knows the Suns can't afford to give him one without trading a core player.

It seems like for every positive thing that happens for the Suns, Joe Johnson looked for the negative way it affected him. He comes off sounding like the ultimate selfish bastard who didn't give a damn about the team. Rot in hell Joe and enjoy your [expletive] book.
 

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This reminds me of the Nash incident with Dallas. I am a Nash fan so I stand on his side but I am sure many many many Mavs fans are mad at Nash for leaving.

The same thing happened : JJ and Nash felt they weren't "appreciated" enough.

As a professional athlete, money is REALLY the key.

I don't blame JJ. He "feels" he deserves more money. JJ did perform BETTER in playoffs than I expected. He was like 20/5/5 man and was shooting very well (much better than Q at least) before he got injured. I felt JJ should have stayed with Suns but things happen.


By the way, what happened in Maimi?? What did Amare say and when was that??
 

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hsandhu said:
I've certainly critcized Sarver in the past, but this is the most important statement in the whole article.

Did you have a problem with being a third scoring option?
“We all knew the offense ran through Amaré. As far as being a third option, I didn't really look at it as that. Coach (Mike) D'Antoni did the best job he could with the type of team we had because everybody wanted the ball. He put me at backup point and I got a chance to make a lot more plays. I would've loved to get more involved. Everybody watching the Suns thought everything was peaches and cream.

“It was a lot of fun, but you can't keep everybody happy. We all accepted roles and nobody griped about it. At the same time, it wasn't like everybody was happy. We were winning, so how could you gripe? I knew I could do more than be a spot-up shooter.”

This is exactly what was being reported on Gambo and Ash through there sources in the Suns organization (probably Sarver himself). Blow Johnson tries to put his own spin on it, but its' pretty damn clear he wanted to be the man.
This one single quote leads me to believe Sarver's side much more than his. He seems like a guy who's spent one weak on a garbage team, realizing he doesn't have the talent to carry it, trying to say it wasn't his fault.

Well too damn band, despite my early objection to this move, the Suns made out like bandits, and it's gonna be beautiful in a couple years when JJ is at home watching Boris play in an all star game representing the Suns (assuming sarver doesn't mess up that contract :) ). Plus the picks, and not having to pay 14 million a year to a guy who's not worth it, pretty damn good.

My thoughts exactly from the interview. I'd rather have Boris wanting to dish than Joe wanting to go one-on-one.
 

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but I'd also say Sarver should have been thicker-skinned in
negotiating, no matter how abrasive he found Tellem's negotiating tactics...
Basically, what I get out of this interview (and other articles) is that
this was a situation screaming out for someone to step up and be the
"bigger" man


I completely disagree. You can't negotiate effectively by completely sacrificing your own position. That's not negotiating, that's caving. If I'm trying to work out a deal and an agent starts swearing at me, I hang up. I'm not going to play by those rules. Sarver can't let it be known that he can be intimidated by thuggery, because it will make his job that much harder down the road.

The only exception is if you're dealing with a player so valuable that losing him would be a catastrophe. Then you swallow your pride and take all the abuse you have to. Johnson was not that level of player, and only he and his agent would ever dream that he is.
 

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I don't blame JJ. He "feels" he deserves more money. JJ did perform BETTER in playoffs than I expected. He was like 20/5/5 man and was shooting very well (much better than Q at least) before he got injured. I felt JJ should have stayed with Suns but things happen.

All you had to do is score to shoot better than Q did in the playoffs last year. Its no wonder why Brandy left him.

:biglaugh:
 

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You mean like Boris Diaw and two 1st round picks? ;)

Also don't forget about the Trade Exception gained in the trade which allowed the Suns to acquire James Jones for a second round pick and the remaining TE may allow the Suns to add another quality player with a pick and perhaps some change.

The Suns could certainly use an athletic 4/5 to intimidate some shots and be more of a force on the boards (especially offensive rebounding).

Even a Steven Hunter type player might help. It is not always necessary to block alot of shots to be a force in the middle. Just the threat of blocking a shot or two can prevent players from driving to the hoop or alter their shot. With Amare out, Diaw and Marion are about the Suns best shot blocking threats. I'm afraid the Suns lack of height offers an invitation for opposing teams to drive it to the hoop.

IMO, Diaw presently fills the Suns type center role the best even though he comes off the bench. He is the closest the Suns have to Amare. KT and Grant are more Power Forwards.

If Diaw can keep playing well, there are few (if any) players out there with his passing and dribbling ability that can play positions 1-5.
 

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I'm glad there is two sides to this, and not just on interview. It seems like sarver held strong to his side and Joe was pissed that he wasn't babied. That's the bad side of helping a player become more confident. You need confidence to make plays, take over games ect. We helped Joe get that and his confidence turns into ego and desire to be babied.
 

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jibikao said:
This reminds me of the Nash incident with Dallas. I am a Nash fan so I stand on his side but I am sure many many many Mavs fans are mad at Nash for leaving.

The same thing happened : JJ and Nash felt they weren't "appreciated" enough.

As a professional athlete, money is REALLY the key.

Nash was a bargain and as I recall he was genuinely shocked and hurt that Cuban would not match Phoenix's offer. IMO, Nash was only asking fair market value (not the max) and he would have welcomed Cuban matching Phoenix's offer and staying in Dallas.

IMO, this is what makes Nash a class act... the honesty he displayed in the negotiations and asking Cuban personally one last time if he would match the Phoenix offer.
 

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Mainstreet said:
Nash was a bargain and as I recall he was genuinely shocked and hurt that Cuban would not match Phoenix's offer. IMO, Nash was only asking fair market value (not the max) and he would have welcomed Cuban matching Phoenix's offer and staying in Dallas.

IMO, this is what makes Nash a class act... the honesty he displayed in the negotiations and asking Cuban personally one last time if he would match the Phoenix offer.

Also, Nash didn't go out to the worst teams in the NBA that had the most cap space and try to get the biggest contract possible. The Suns came to him in the opening minutes of the free agency period and offered him a fair contract that he deserved for being an all-star and one of the top PG's in the game. Obviously Cuban was hurt that Nash would even entertain offers from another team and that he was willing to accept the Phx offer. For Cuban to think that an all-star PG doesn't deserve a near-max contract is crazy (even though Steve was getting a little older).
 

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elindholm said:
but I'd also say Sarver should have been thicker-skinned in
negotiating, no matter how abrasive he found Tellem's negotiating tactics...
Basically, what I get out of this interview (and other articles) is that
this was a situation screaming out for someone to step up and be the
"bigger" man


I completely disagree. You can't negotiate effectively by completely sacrificing your own position. That's not negotiating, that's caving. If I'm trying to work out a deal and an agent starts swearing at me, I hang up. I'm not going to play by those rules. Sarver can't let it be known that he can be intimidated by thuggery, because it will make his job that much harder down the road.

The only exception is if you're dealing with a player so valuable that losing him would be a catastrophe. Then you swallow your pride and take all the abuse you have to. Johnson was not that level of player, and only he and his agent would ever dream that he is.

If Sarver went in prepared to make a counteroffer, then changed his mind because Tellem was being a jerk, that's not caving
in, that's letting your pride get the best of you. All I really wanted to say is that if someone wants to say that JJ should
have sucked up his pride to make these negotiations smoother, they should be prepared to say the same thing about Sarver.
 

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