Joe Mixon?

[Totally_Red]

Joe Mixon

Watched his bowl game and he looked fantastic. Too bad he's probably off the Cardinals board. He'd be an ideal compliment to D.J. in this offense with his pass catching ability, etcetera.

Too bad we can't average D.J.'s exceptional character with Mixon's lack thereof and get a passing grade.

 

[BleedRed]

Too bad?

The dude straight up sucker punched a female.

Hope he goes undrafted.

 

[NJCardFan]

He's a thug and a coward. I don't want anything to do with him. The fact he wasn't expelled from school is a travesty.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Too bad?

The dude straight up sucker punched a female.

Hope he goes undrafted.

That's how rumors get spread and things get blown out of proportion. He didn't sucker punch anyone. She physically went after him inside after verbally attacking him with racist comments outside in parking lot. When he hit her, once I might add before walking away, she add gone after him and was in his face. That is what I got out of the news story and video. Did you not watch the whole video? Or did I see something totally different from what you did?

It is not politically correct to say some people deserve to get punched when it is a woman involved. But, if they want to be equal, then they better get some street education. He don't push, incite, or aggravate someone, and think nothing is going to happen in return. Just cause you are a woman, you don't get a free pass in the world.

I am not saying he didn't over react and do something that is such a touchy issue these days. But I certainly am not going to join the lynch mob and totally blame him for what happened. This wasn't the same kind of thing as Ray Rice in any way, shape, or form.

By the way, he tearfully apologized to her. Did she ever apologize to him for inciting the incident? I think not. I think some of you are over reacting to the lopsided news reporting. The going thing now is jumping on famous or athletic men who have "attacked women". The news reporters saw a chance at making a big news story by slanting the whole thing making Mixon out to be the only person responsible for that altercation. Why, because it made for better news.

In case some of you have lived a sheltered life, there are some crazy ash beeches out there. And saying some might get a little emotionally upset sometimes is putting it mildly. Some are simply nuts and go through their lives "asking for it." And that is a fact. The best thing men can do around them is run like hell because sooner or later you are going to do something by today's society's standards you will regret, especially when your reaction is taken out of context to the whole event.

 

[Buckybird]

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no!

Come on people have some morals!!!

I believe in 2nd chances but this dude beat the hell out of that woman & crushed her face. Has Ray Rice been given a 2nd chance? Enough said

 

[Bodha]

Too bad?

The dude straight up sucker punched a female.

Hope he goes undrafted.

Sucker punch?

She hit him first, then he slugged her. Not only did she see it coming, she bought the ticket. Not a "sucker punch".

 

[BleedRed]

That's how rumors get spread and things get blown out of proportion. He didn't sucker punch anyone. She physically went after him inside after verbally attacking him with racist comments outside in parking lot. When he hit her, once I might add before walking away, she add gone after him and was in his face. That is what I got out of the news story and video. Did you not watch the whole video? Or did I see something totally different from what you did?

It is not politically correct to say some people deserve to get punched when it is a woman involved. But, if they want to be equal, then they better get some street education. He don't push, incite, or aggravate someone, and think nothing is going to happen in return. Just cause you are a woman, you don't get a free pass in the world.

I am not saying he didn't over react and do something that is such a touchy issue these days. But I certainly am not going to join the lynch mob and totally blame him for what happened. This wasn't the same kind of thing as Ray Rice in any way, shape, or form.

I saw the video, and obviously there was an argument between the two. Obviously she got in his face and reportedly made racial comments, but does that justify a man punching a female in the face..... not where I'm from. I can tolerate a lot of things but for a man to treat a women in such a way is something I cannot tolerate. Walk away.

 

[BleedRed]

Sucker punch?

She hit him first, then he slugged her. Not only did she see it coming, she bought the ticket. Not a "sucker punch".

Really, her hands were down and lets be honest do you really think a female expects a man to let one fly in a heated argument.... not any I know. A man who can do such a thing is a complete POS, and honestly a person who justifies such behavior might be one as well.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

He has all the making of another Lawrence Phillips.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

He's a thug and a coward. I don't want anything to do with him. The fact he wasn't expelled from school is a travesty.

Winning football games was more important. Says a lot about what matters to some people. Look no further than what Tom Osborne did with Lawrence Philips at Nebraska. Reinstated him 2 weeks before the national title game so they could win.

 

[Bodha]

Really, her hands were down

1st rule of boxing is to protect yourself at all times. Round #1 started when she threw that jab

 

[BleedRed]

1st rule of boxing is to protect yourself at all times. Round #1 started when she threw that jab

First rule of fighting is know your opponent. What damage could she have possibly done to him. Nothing.

Do you think he felt threatened by her? Haha I think not.

 

[Russ Smith]

I watched it at work with the sound off so if there's racial comments I missed it.

I think the problem Mixon has is that he lied to police and NFL teams trying to decide what they will do will not like that. It's been released that when Mixon talked to police he told them he didn't know he was punching a woman, she hit him first and "it felt like I was hit by a dude and I just defended myself." Obviously from the video unless Mixon was temporarily blind, he knew he was punching a woman she was standing directly in front of him.

That's apparently also what he told the OU people initially that someone hit him in the side of the face, he responded and by the time he realized it was a woman it was too late. It's not simple it almost looks like she put her right hand on his neck, but he clearly knew he was punching a woman in fact he's now saying they had an argument outside before she went in and this happened so he clearly knew it wasn't "a dude" when he threw the punch.

The other issue is if you're an NFL team, after he hits her his reaction to just walk out like that has to concern you. at least he didn't stand over her and taunt her but the total lack of disregard for her being out cold with multiple broken bones in her face has to be a concern.

If she used racial slurs that's wrong but she didn't deserve to get hit like that, his lack of self control would really concern me if I were an NFL team.

 

[Bodha]

First rule of fighting is know your opponent.

Im a guy.
I put my hands on a much much much bigger guy.
I know he can kick my ass.
I hit him anyways.
He kicks the crap out of me. And I deserve it, yes? Yes I do.
Because I knowingly put my hands on somebody I knew could kill me.


Explain the difference.

 

[BleedRed]

Im a guy.
I put my hands on a much much much bigger guy.
I know he can kick my ass.
I hit him anyways.
He kicks the crap out of me. And I deserve it, yes? Yes I do.
Because I knowingly put my hands on somebody I knew could kill me.


Explain the difference.

Really? I'm not going to continue to explain why this is wrong on the most basic of levels. You obviously have some different standards then most people.

Good luck with that. Glad you're not in the Cards FO.

 

[Bodha]

Really? I'm not going to continue to explain why this is wrong on the most basic of levels. You obviously have some different standards then most people.

Good luck with that. Glad you're not in the Cards FO.

Dont feel bad, I stuck you with a brutal, inarguable question. Few, if any, couldve come up with a response.


*I dont condone it. I wouldnt ever do it. Nor should he have.

Bottom line, she is an adult. She knew he could kill her and she hit him anyways. You walk through the doors you open.

 

[Russ Smith]

Im a guy.
I put my hands on a much much much bigger guy.
I know he can kick my ass.
I hit him anyways.
He kicks the crap out of me. And I deserve it, yes? Yes I do.
Because I knowingly put my hands on somebody I knew could kill me.


Explain the difference.

You're 85 years old you do that and get decked, you still think it's not wrong for someone to hit you?

Yes she acted very poorly, dumb, downright stupid. That doesn't mean she deserved to get her face broken. He could have very easily grabbed her and pushed her into the seat saying look this is over, you need to stop.

Not always easy but there was no threat to Joe Mixon.

And again he told police he thought he got hit by a dude suggesting the guy with the girl was the one he thought he was hitting, so even Joe Mixon gets that there's a difference between punching a guy and punching a woman, or he wouldn't have lied.

 

[Bodha]

Not always easy but there was no threat to Joe Mixon.

I consider that victim blaming. She hit him, and his reaction is the crime?

I dont agree with what he did. But I absolutely do not excuse her actions because "shes a girl". Shes an adult human being responsible for her choices.

 

[Russ Smith]

I consider that victim blaming. She hit him, and his reaction is the crime?

I dont agree with what he did. But I absolutely do not excuse her actions because "shes a girl". Shes an adult human being responsible for her choices.

So why make the distinction of adult? if a 10 year old had done the same thing should Joe Mixon have punched the 10 year old? What's the difference, at what age would it be ok for him to punch a non adult for doing what she did?

 

[Bodha]

So why make the distinction of adult? if a 10 year old had done the same thing should Joe Mixon have punched the 10 year old? What's the difference, at what age would it be ok for him to punch a non adult for doing what she did?

18

Adults understand choices and consequences. Children do not.

 

[Russ Smith]

18

Adults understand choices and consequences. Children do not.

OK so an 18 year old blind woman does the exact same thing, is it still ok for him to punch her? She's 18, she is an adult she understands consequences.

Suppose she just tore her ACL in a skiing accident so she's an adult, but she's on crutches still ok to punch her?

Yes her actions were wrong but his actions were completely over the top and unnecessary. Even he gets it that's why he lied to the police.

 

[Bodha]

OK so an 18 year old blind woman does the exact same thing, is it still ok for him to punch her? She's 18, she is an adult she understands consequences.

Suppose she just tore her ACL in a skiing accident so she's an adult, but she's on crutches still ok to punch her?

100% yes to all. I dont care if its Stephen Hawking and he smacks you with a robot arm from his wheel chair.

You give me 1 good reason why its OK for any people, blind or crippled, to hit others?


Between the both of us, I treat these people with more respect than you do. I treat them with the respect of equals. You look down on them as being pitiful and handicap. If they are fully mentally equipped, then they deserve the respect of being treated equally for their choices.

 

[GatorAZ]

Anyone seen Tyreeke Hill? Yeah Mixon is getting drafted.

 

[Russ Smith]

100% yes to all. I dont care if its Stephen Hawking and he smacks you with a robot arm from his wheel chair.

You give me 1 good reason why its OK for any people, blind or crippled, to hit others?


Between the both of us, I treat these people with more respect than you do. I treat them with the respect of equals. You look down on them as being pitiful and handicap. If they are fully mentally equipped, then they deserve the respect of being treated equally for their choices.

yes you're a great man Bodha.

You clearly didn't get my point. I was going to the point of absurdity to make a point, you're saying she's responsible for her actions but you're absolving him of HIS responsibility for HIS actions. Adults are supposed to have enough self control to not break the face of someone that they have a disagreement with.

She didn't punch him she pushed him and then put her right hand on him, not sure if it was grabbing him or maybe at worst contact with the right hand. There's a very clear reason he lied to the police and said someone hit him in the face hard enough that it "felt like a dude hit me." there's no way he thought he'd been hit by a man, he was looking right at her, and the contact didn't even faze him. He just lost his temper and decked her, broke her face, knocked her unconscious and then just walked out like it didn't mean a thing to him.

He told police he hit her in self defense, that he thought it was a dude that hit him and so he defended himself. That's clearly a lie. Even if it is self defense adults don't have to hit another adult hard enough to break their face. Adults are supposed to have control of themselves, he clearly didn't at that time.

 

[Russ Smith]

Anyone seen Tyreeke Hill? Yeah Mixon is getting drafted.

The point Florio made on PFT was that Hill didn't have a video of him hitting his pregnant girlfriend so it was "easier" for the Chiefs to justify him because of that. If you're an NFL team and you draft Joe Mixon that video is going to be all over local tv, womens groups will protest him etc. With Hill while people knew what he did, they didn't see it.