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Anyone hear Brent Mussberger go off.

Pretty much said he was getting flak for wishing him well at the next level and he said of course I'm going to wish him well the kid messed up and got a second chance I'm all for people getting second chances and I hope he goes forward and learns from this.

I agree 100%

Mussberger is about as sexist as they come, that's the problem. Remember his remarks about A.J. McCarron's girlfriend?

The issue that i had with Mussberger's remarks about Mixon was that he did not even mention or show concern for the victim in this case. Thus, his comments, without that important context, seemed awkward and slightly inappropriate.
 

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This is a tough call.

I don't want him on the Cardinals and I'm sure there are going to many teams that won't have him on their big boards.

But he shouldn't lose everything because he ran afoul of a female who never learned to keep her hands to herself.
 

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The point Florio made on PFT was that Hill didn't have a video of him hitting his pregnant girlfriend so it was "easier" for the Chiefs to justify him because of that. If you're an NFL team and you draft Joe Mixon that video is going to be all over local tv, womens groups will protest him etc. With Hill while people knew what he did, they didn't see it.

Imagining what Hill did is worse than what the actual footage of Mixon was shown IMO. Not trying to justify anything Mixon did... He still followed her into the restaurant and she seemed to be ignoring him yet he persisted. That right there blows any argument he has.
 

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Mussberger is about as sexist as they come, that's the problem. Remember his remarks about A.J. McCarron's girlfriend?

The issue that i had with Mussberger's remarks about Mixon was that he did not even mention or show concern for the victim in this case. Thus, his comments, without that important context, seemed awkward and slightly inappropriate.


"As sexiest as they come"

Why because he said AJ had a pretty girlfriend. I don't remember his calling her out her name, don't remember any Mussberger scandals.

Some of you guys are just sensitive it amazes me
 

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"As sexiest as they come"

Why because he said AJ had a pretty girlfriend. I don't remember his calling her out her name, don't remember any Mussberger scandals.

Some of you guys are just sensitive it amazes me

I made the comment. So you can keep your remarks to me and not "some guys."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/s...riticized-for-remarks-about-miss-alabama.html

You may not have a problem with this---but I do. I teach young females who want to be treated like human beings, not sex objects.
 

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I made the comment. So you can keep your remarks to me and not "some guys."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/s...riticized-for-remarks-about-miss-alabama.html

You may not have a problem with this---but I do. I teach young females who want to be treated like human beings, not sex objects.

Once you start posing for pics wearing next to nothing you're a sex object. As for Musburger he started losing it years ago. I found his rants awkward not offensive. Jesse Palmer looked like he was in a Southwest "Wanna get away" commercial.
 

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Ray Rice didn't get another chance because he was on the wrong side of 30 and on the downhill slide. AP got suspended for child abuse yet I recall people on here wanting to trade for him. Here in St. Louis everyone at the dome loved Leanord Little even though he killed, thats right took a life, while driving drunk. I remember a radio host saying he would never want Mike Vick on his team because of what he did. He praised Little though.

Do I agree that what he did was wrong, yes. Does he deserve a second chance, sure. I think he should be able to make a living at any job.
 

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I agree, thats what he should have done.

But im still trying to figure out "why she didnt deserve it"


Heres the question again, if anyone cares to solve it:

Im a guy.
I put my hands on a much much much bigger guy.
I know he can kick my ass.
I hit him anyways.
He kicks the crap out of me. And I deserve it, yes? Yes I do.
Because I knowingly put my hands on somebody I knew could kill me.


Explain the difference.

There is no difference unless you are an SJW or a sexist. Females are equal to males in all ways and are supposed to be treated as such....we have been taught this for decades but many still want to maintain the double standard of special treatment when it comes to physical altercations because females are "frail"... however I watched my mom drop a left hook on my older brother when he was 20,...knocked him out cold...mom is such a dainty ol'broad...and I have a sister that can kick the crap out of half the men on this board...but women are frail,...dainty,...the fairer sex
 

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Mixon left the scene initially and then came back for the punch. per the video. He had the chance for this to never happen.
 

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She didn't deserve it because she's a woman, and any man with an ounce of decency knows that you simply don't hit women.

End of discussion.

You seriously dont understand the difference between deserve and action.

He shouldnt have hit her, but she 100% deserved to be hit.


Its sad when a lady gets eaten by the lions at the zoo, but it doesnt mean she didnt deserve it. Dont jump into the cage dummy.
 
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You seriously dont understand the difference between deserve and action.

He shouldnt have hit her, but she 100% deserved to be hit.
Are you privy to the conversation exchange between him and her? If so, please provide a synopsis.
 

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Are you privy to the conversation exchange between him and her? If so, please provide a synopsis.

Does it matter? Sticks and stones. Words are words.

She introduced physicality into the exchange. SHE did. Not him.

Like I said earlier, if I knowingly put my hands on a guy much bigger than myself, who I know can kill me, and get my butt kicked, I would deserve it.

Does she not know hes bigger and can kill her? Of course she does. But shes been raised to think she can assault people and have diplomatic immunity from being hit back.
 

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Does it matter? Sticks and stones. Words are words.

She introduced physicality into the exchange. SHE did. Not him.

Like I said earlier, if I knowingly put my hands on a guy much bigger than myself, who I know can kill me, and get my butt kicked, I would deserve it.

Does she not know hes bigger and can kill her? Of course she does. But shes been raised to think she can assault people and have diplomatic immunity from being hit back.
She was drunk, half his size. Not exactly bragging material for a knock out by Mixon. He busted up a drunk girl. That is so beyond weak. He came back for revenge, whatever was said. If you were drunk and slapped me, I would laugh and walk away. Been there and done that. Nothing shameful.
 

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She was drunk, half his size. Not exactly bragging material for a knock out by Mixon. He busted up a drunk girl. That is so beyond weak. He came back for revenge, whatever was said. If you were drunk and slapped me, I would laugh and walk away. Been there and done that. Nothing shameful.

This has nothing to do with Mixon. If we are going to continue discussing this I need you to raise up to a higher plane of intellect.

Its about principle.

No, he should not have it her.

My issue is with the statement "She didnt deserve it".

If a drunk guy hits another guy, drunk guy deserves to get knocked out. If you knowingly jump off a cliff without a parachute, you deserve to smash into the ground. If you set yourself on fire as a goof, you deserve to burn. If you stick your hand in an alligator mouth, you deserve to lose your hand. If you pretend to have a gun while interacting with police, you deserve to get shot. If you tap dance on a landmine, you deserve to get blown up. And if you put your hands on a human much bigger than you, you deserve whatever happens to you.

I could go all day, but it doesnt matter. If you dont understand after 1 example, you still wont after 100.

Am I the only one on this board who understands what "deserve" means?

 
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He's really good

I'd take him in a heart beat
 

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You seriously dont understand the difference between deserve and action.

He shouldnt have hit her, but she 100% deserved to be hit.


Its sad when a lady gets eaten by the lions at the zoo, but it doesnt mean she didnt deserve it. Dont jump into the cage dummy.
And you don't understand when adding qualifiers can make you sound inhumane and misogynistic.
 

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And you don't understand when adding qualifiers can make you sound inhumane and misogynistic.

You know whats ironic

"Misogyny: ingrained prejudice against women."

You are the misogynist here. Your prejudice is that women are different. They are dumber. They dont know better. They are practically children who dont understand that with choices, comes consequence. She gets a pass just as a mentally disabled man would. Because shes a pitiful little creature who would drown in the rain if not for your help.

I view that girl who got smacked with 100% respect of human equality.


I shall never stoop down to your "plane of intellect".

Walking away claiming the higher ground

aka

He made really good points, and Im having a hard time coming up with a logical counter-argument.

For the record - your "argument" this whole time has amounted to no more than "She a girl!". Which is sexist, but also basic and void of logical examination.

Q - if she were a 6'6, heavily muscled 250 pound girl, is she still just a girl?
 
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You know whats ironic

"Misogyny: ingrained prejudice against women."

You are the misogynist here. Your prejudice is that women are different. They are dumber. They dont know better. They are practically children who dont understand that with choices, comes consequence. She gets a pass just as a mentally disabled man would. Because shes a pitiful little creature who would drown in the rain if not for your help.

I view that girl who got smacked with 100% respect of human equality.




Walking away claiming the higher ground

aka

He made really good points, and Im having a hard time coming up with a logical counter-argument.

For the record - your "argument" this whole time has amounted to no more than "She a girl!". Which is sexist, but also basic and void of logical examination.

Q - if she were a 6'6, heavily muscled 250 pound girl, is she still just a girl?

Not sure what's worse: Your stance on social situations, or your attempts to validate them.
 
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