Johnson/Finnegan Fight

[MigratingOsprey]

Agreed. This goes back to last year and with the game out of hand and the titans season over Finnegan decided to up his level of instigation

He flat out jabbed johnson in the throat - clear as day ...... then he turtled like a champ while getting tossed around

Johnson is about as mild mannered as they come, so I guess it's a testament to finnegan that he got him to lose his cool and gain some league discipline ....... however, he will now be forever known for being exactly the punk that he is ... something that many people had an idea about ... but any thought of being tough & borderline is out the window, he's just a borderline cheap shot guy

 

[mojorizen7]

Finnegan definitely has had that coming for quite some time.

+1

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I was amazed at all of the stuff that the refs let Finnegan get away with today. How Andre made it till the 4th quarter without doing SOMETHING to him was amazing to me. Really backs up everything about him being a good guy and made it clear how hard he really wanted to just make it through the game and move on. After the 3rd or 4th time of getting hit in the throat or in the balls I would have done something, and I am one of the most laid back and relaxed guys in the world.

If the Texans do a good job of sending game footage to the NFL then there is zero chance that Andre gets suspended, even with throwing the punches. He held back from doing something for wayyyyyyyyyy longer than just about anyone in the league could have.

Agreed. This goes back to last year and with the game out of hand and the titans season over Finnegan decided to up his level of instigation

He flat out jabbed johnson in the throat - clear as day ...... then he turtled like a champ while getting tossed around

Johnson is about as mild mannered as they come, so I guess it's a testament to finnegan that he got him to lose his cool and gain some league discipline ....... however, he will now be forever known for being exactly the punk that he is ... something that many people had an idea about ... but any thought of being tough & borderline is out the window, he's just a borderline cheap shot guy

Did you guys even watch the fight and the ordeal afterwards? Not only did Johnson throw a haymaker sucker punch to a defenseless player, (whether he deserved it or not is inconsequential) he throw the official's arm away after he tried to restrain him. Even if he isn't somehow suspended for the fight, he should be suspended for that.

I will be absolutely shocked and appalled if Johnson is not suspended at least one game. He has to keep his cool there. He is clearly more important to his team's success than Finnegan.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Getting worked is not getting suckerpunched

When you jab someone in the throat and then get an immediate response there is nothing defenseless or sucker punch about it

 

[Southpaw]

Andre Johnson comes from a neighborhood in Miami, dubbed Viet Nam. Andre can wail. That ain't his first rodeo. He pummeled Fiinegan. That whole thing was the ref's earlier non control during the game. Refs should get suspension. Loved the NFL Networks coverage of the event. They showed a 15 year old clip of Deion Sanders / Andre Rison fight. Sanders almost fell off his chair laughing at himself.

BTW, the Oilers gave Johnson a game ball in the post game locker room.

 

[chickenhead]

But he was given the ball because he became the first player to record 60 receptions in his first 8 seasons. This kind of took the shine off it. His thanked his teammates and said he should have kept his cool, fwiw.

 

[Mulli]

Did you guys even watch the fight and the ordeal afterwards? Not only did Johnson throw a haymaker sucker punch to a defenseless player, (whether he deserved it or not is inconsequential) he throw the official's arm away after he tried to restrain him. Even if he isn't somehow suspended for the fight, he should be suspended for that.

I will be absolutely shocked and appalled if Johnson is not suspended at least one game. He has to keep his cool there. He is clearly more important to his team's success than Finnegan.

Agree.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Getting worked is not getting suckerpunched

When you jab someone in the throat and then get an immediate response there is nothing defenseless or sucker punch about it

When he is on the ground essentially cowering in fetal position protecting himself because he couldn't fight back and you punch at him twice on the ground... that is a sucker punch. Getting angry and throwing the official's arm away in disgust is a clear violation. If people are getting suspended $75,000 for hits that only years ago are were legal, then this type of had better be dealt with suspensions or Goodell loses all credibility.

He had every right to be angry and fight with him, but his actions were definitely suspension worthy, even if Finnegan deserved it.

 

[Southpaw]

When he is on the ground essentially cowering in fetal position protecting himself because he couldn't fight back and you punch at him twice on the ground... that is a sucker punch. Getting angry and throwing the official's arm away in disgust is a clear violation. If people are getting suspended $75,000 for hits that only years ago are were legal, then this type of had better be dealt with suspensions or Goodell loses all credibility.

He had every right to be angry and fight with him, but his actions were definitely suspension worthy, even if Finnegan deserved it.

Respectfully disagree. It ain't over until, #1 you are positive it is over and #2 his ass is whupped enough so it won't happen again. Those are the rules of a real fight, not an NBA slap fest. It is a lesson.

Btw, Finnegan still couldn't restrain himself enough to stop the dancing and taunting after the break up. Dude went all fetal, because it was his intent to let the refs break up what he started. Cardinal rule of real fighting is when 2 dudes willingly square off do not break it up until one of them quits. Then there is no need to break it up.

 

[oaken1]

When he is on the ground essentially cowering in fetal position protecting himself because he couldn't fight back and you punch at him twice on the ground... that is a sucker punch. Getting angry and throwing the official's arm away in disgust is a clear violation. If people are getting suspended $75,000 for hits that only years ago are were legal, then this type of had better be dealt with suspensions or Goodell loses all credibility.

He had every right to be angry and fight with him, but his actions were definitely suspension worthy, even if Finnegan deserved it.

when the punk is cowering in the fetal position after realizing he got in over his head, and he gets socked a few more times,....that is in NO WAY a sucker punch................it is an exclamation point.

A sucker punch is when a dude gets hit, and never sees it coming, because there was no altercation.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Respectfully disagree. It ain't over until, #1 you are positive it is over and #2 his ass is whupped enough so it won't happen again. Those are the rules of a real fight, not an NBA slap fest. It is a lesson.

Btw, Finnegan still couldn't restrain himself enough to stop the dancing and taunting after the break up. Dude went all fetal, because it was his intent to let the refs break up what he started. Cardinal rule of real fighting is when 2 dudes willingly square off do not break it up until one of them quits. Then there is no need to break it up.

I'm not excusing any of Finnegan's actions; what he did would set off most people. He deserves to be suspended too. The taunting afterwards was suspect. (for a real fight)

Letting the refs break it up is what he should have done in the first place. Johnson was responsible for escalating this issue. He ripped off the Finnegan's helmet. The refs had to separate these two THE PLAY BEFORE this happened. They are partly responsible for not being on top of these two from the beginning.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

when the punk is cowering in the fetal position after realizing he got in over his head, and he gets socked a few more times,....that is in NO WAY a sucker punch................it is an exclamation point.

A sucker punch is when a dude gets hit, and never sees it coming, because there was no altercation.

Respectfully disagree.

 

[Southpaw]

If I thought Finnegan was smart enough, and he may be, I might suspect his intent was to get Johnson tossed because there was no way he could stop him by playing football. Factor in the 2 teams are in the same division , same record, Houston plays Thursday night. Sneaky move.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If I thought Finnegan was smart enough, and he may be, I might suspect his intent was to get Johnson tossed because there was no way he could stop him by playing football. Factor in the 2 teams are in the same division , same record, Houston plays Thursday night. Sneaky move.

That's my point. It's like when you'd send in the 10th man in basketball to go after the star player.

 

[Pariah]

1. AJ should have kept his cool
2. AJ did not throw a sucker punch
3. They both should be suspended

 

[Mulli]

1. AJ should have kept his cool
2. AJ did not throw a sucker punch
3. They both should be suspended

Agree.

 

[oaken1]

Respectfully disagree.

ya just gotta trust me on this one man, being a rather large dude, I have lots of experience in these things.......when ya get in an argument with someone, then it cools cause the fella says its all good,....you turn to walk away,....and he clocks ya in the back of the head with a 2x4.............THAT is a sucker punch.........a few moments later, when he realizes the 2x4 didnt really help, and he falls to the ground screaming like a little girl,...and you do a double tap on the boys skull,.....THAT is an exclamation point.

 

[oaken1]

from dictionary.com

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suck·er-punch
   /ˈsʌkərˌpʌntʃ/ Show Spelled[suhk-er-puhnch] Show IPA
–verb (used with object) Slang .
to strike (someone) with an unexpected blow.
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if YOU started a fight,....then there really should be NO unexpected blows.

 

[desertdawg]

1. AJ should have kept his cool
2. AJ did not throw a sucker punch
3. They both should be suspended

I agree but...
4. AJ should of dropped the atomic elbow when Finn was on all fours if it was like that

 

[dreamcastrocks]

from dictionary.com

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suck·er-punch
   /ˈsʌkərˌpʌntʃ/ Show Spelled[suhk-er-puhnch] Show IPA
–verb (used with object) Slang .
to strike (someone) with an unexpected blow.
.
.
if YOU started a fight,....then there really should be NO unexpected blows.

I'll be in the minority; i'm ok with it. Johnson escalated this fight not Finnegan. So by your definition, it could be. How did hitting someone on the ground become the 'manly' position?

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Because it directly follows taking a shot to the throat during a friggin pass route - the true sucker punch in the equation

 

[Southpaw]

I'll be in the minority; i'm ok with it. Johnson escalated this fight not Finnegan. So by your definition, it could be. How did hitting someone on the ground become the 'manly' position?

Street fight rules. It ain't Marquis of Queensbury rules.

 

[Mulli]

Street fight rules. It ain't Marquis of Queensbury rules.

It aint a street fight either.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Street fight rules. It ain't Marquis of Queensbury rules.

They weren't fighting in the street. That's why it isn't street fighting rules, hence suckerpunch. If it were, I'd take Ryu.

 

[Mulli]

They weren't fighting in the street. That's why it isn't street fighting rules, hence suckerpunch. If it were, I'd take Ryu.

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I always liked this guy.