Julian Peterson an elite player?

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So says Scouts

Grade 90

Expert's Take

Peterson is an excellent athlete who has the versatility to play a number of positions on the roster. He has lined up and has had success as an outside linebacker, inside linebacker, defensive end, and strong safety. He has adequate size for the linebacker spot and he is very fluid in his movement. He has very good foot quickness and he has excellent running ability. He has a very good hip turn and he shows that he can flip his hips and turn and run and he can cover most backs and tight ends in man to man coverage. He is very comfortable in space and he gets good depth in his zone drops and he gets a good break on the ball when it is thrown. He makes plays all over the field and he has the range to be a sideline to sideline player and he re directs to the ball well. He shows that he can run plays down from the backside. He has great upper body strength and he has great explosiveness in his get off. He has long arms and he plays with good leverage and he has a knack for exploding into a blocker and getting under his pads and creating separation. He uses his hands well in playing through traffic to the ball and blockers have a difficult time getting into his body. He can challenge the corner as a pass rusher and he shows the use of s good variety of pass rush moves and the counters off those moves that keeps a tackle off balance. He does an excellent job in line stunts and he has great closing speed to the quarterback. He plays hard and he goes to the ball aggressively and he is a strong tackler who clubs up with his arms. His size becomes somewhat of a liability as an edge rusher and he can be neutralized by a big offensive tackle who is able to front him up and lock on. He needs to improve his ability to diagnose plays and get better at taking on plays that are straight at him.

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UFA: Unrestricted Free Agent; a player who has completed four or more accrued seasons and whose contract has expired.
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Grade: Insider and Scouts Inc have come up with a rating system for the best Free Agents on the market. Grades are from 0-100.

90-100: Elite Player
Player demonstrates rare abilities and can create mismatches that have an obvious impact on the game. ... Premier NFL player with all the skills to consistently play at a championship level... Rates in the top 5 at his position in the league.
80-89: Outstanding Player
Player has abilities to create mismatches against most opponents in the NFL. ... A feature player who has an impact on the outcome of the game. ... Cannot be shut down by a single player and plays on a consistent level week in and week out. ... Rates at the top 10 at his position in the league.
75-79: Solid Starter
Solid starter who is close to being an elite player. ... No glaring weaknesses and will usually win his individual match-up, but does not dominate in every game, especially when matched against the top players in the league. ... Will usually rate in the top 20 players at his position in the league.
70-74: Good Starter
Good starter who is usually a consistent player with excellent competitiveness and is the heart of the team, but is not a dominant player against the better players he faces on a weekly basis. ... Gives you great effort, and you are glad he is on your team, but he may or may not go to the next level.
65-69: Adequate Starter
This player is an adequate starter who will give a solid effort week in and week out, but he is overmatched against the better players in the league. ... His weaknesses will be exposed, and he will not survive most man-to-man matchups. ... He is a player you like having on your team, but he is never going to be a star, and you could live with him. ... He defines the term "blue collar."
60-64: Good Backup
This is a player who is really on the bubble and only starts because of a team's deficiency at the position. ... He lacks complete overall skills, and although he will battle, he will hinder his team's ability to play at a championship level if forced to be in the starting lineup consistently over a 16-game season. ... This player needs to be a solid contributor in the kicking game or show great versatility at his position to keep his roster spot. ... He is a player you don't mind having on your team, but you are always looking to upgrade.
55-59: Adequate Backup
This is strictly a backup player who is not capable of starting. ... If forced to start, he is only a short-term fix. ... He may make the team because of special teams contributions or experience. ... He is a player you are always looking to upgrade, and you must be aware of alerts in this category, such as age, injury, etc.
50-54: Marginal Backup
This player is hanging on by a thread and is only on your team because there is nobody else to take his place. ... He has significant weaknesses in his game. ... He is not close to being a starter, and he is only an adequate contributor on special teams. ... This is a player you want to replace as quickly as possible.
45-49: Poor Player
Emergency fill-in player who may or may not know the system and has little value other than level of his experience. ... Likely to be a weekly emergency-type player who fills in because of injuries. ... Not a long-term solution, and not a player you want to keep around any longer than necessary.
30: Developmental Player, 2005 Draft Choice, High-rated Rookie Free Agent
Player 25 years or younger with little or no video tape available to evaluate him. ... Needs to be tracked because of his developmental potential.No professional football experience to evaluate. ... Will have a report based on projection from college. Entering professional football for the first time. ... No prior professional football experience, unable to evaluate.
 
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CardinalChris said:
If healthy, yes.... now the worst word in the word...... "IF"

I doubt he is top 5 at his position even when healthy but I would be glad to have him.
 

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clif said:
I doubt he is top 5 at his position even when healthy but I would be glad to have him.

Really? I've seen a lot of Niner games and the guy is amazing. His cover skills are very good. He's not a 15 sack guy, but he does EVERYTHING very, very well. You can think of 5 better WLBs? I'd be interested to know who they were.
 
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CardinalChris said:
Really? I've seen a lot of Niner games and the guy is amazing. His cover skills are very good. He's not a 15 sack guy, but he does EVERYTHING very, very well. You can think of 5 better WLBs? I'd be interested to know who they were.

You are probably right... I don't see many niner games and when I think of LB's I usually lump them together...so if they mean top 5 WLB's then I could see that.
 

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Even OLBs he would be close (maybe 5th). But that leg injury spooks me for a guy who's speed is very important to his game. He'll also demand a pretty penny.
 
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CardinalChris said:
Even OLBs he would be close (maybe 5th). But that leg injury spooks me for a guy who's speed is very important to his game. He'll also demand a pretty penny.

I doubt he signs here now... maybe last week when the money was tight, but now that money will be fairly equal throughout the league.. I doubt he signs here. Again you may be right... it just sounds funny to think of Julian Peterson as an elite player. I just don't hear him getting the pub like the others.
 

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Jamir Miller had the exact same injury and played for three years after it. But, he was never really the same player.
 

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CardinalChris said:
Really? I've seen a lot of Niner games and the guy is amazing. His cover skills are very good. He's not a 15 sack guy, but he does EVERYTHING very, very well. You can think of 5 better WLBs? I'd be interested to know who they were.


Yeah before he blew out the achilles he was a hell of a player. Ironically enough he blew it out jumping over an attempted cut block by LJ Shelton. If people remember correctly, Peterson thought that LJ had leg whipped him and complained to reporters after the game that it was a cheapshot, he'd been kicked in the leg. Then he saw the replays, realized LJ never touched him, and that tearing an achilles like that can feel precisely like you got hit in the back of the leg with a bat, and he issued a public apology to Shelton.

Guess it would be more ironic if LJ were still a Card.
 

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phillycard said:
Man, I'd kidnapp someone for the chance to sign Peterson. :mrgreen:

like in the movie celtic pride.

seriously, peterson is the top olb fa in this year free agentcy. he can do it all on the field. anybody who has watched him play knows what kind of play maker and game changer he is on the definsive side of the field. sign this man.
 

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clif said:
So says Scouts

Grade 90

90-100: Elite Player
Player demonstrates rare abilities and can create mismatches that have an obvious impact on the game. ... Premier NFL player with all the skills to consistently play at a championship level... Rates in the top 5 at his position in the league.


if the cards are interested in him we better not let G&G see this article. i'm pretty sure they definitively stated that we wouldn't be pursuing any "elite" athletes and here julian is definitively scored at a 90 which is defined as elite, and thereby outside of our gameplan for this offseason. i wonder if milford and kosier scored 89s?
 

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Ouchie-Z-Clown said:
if the cards are interested in him we better not let G&G see this article. i'm pretty sure they definitively stated that we wouldn't be pursuing any "elite" athletes and here julian is definitively scored at a 90 which is defined as elite, and thereby outside of our gameplan for this offseason. i wonder if milford and kosier scored 89s?

Everyone has taken that quote and misused it. They both said they would not make a huge signing. This is referrring to dollars of contracts. Green stated he wouldn't waste the majority of his cap space on one player (his definition of a "huge" signing). If the price is right, he would be sought after. They just won't break the bank for one player.
 

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ajcardfan said:
Jamir Miller had the exact same injury and played for three years after it. But, he was never really the same player.


Jamir Miller actually retired following the injury
 

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CardinalChris said:
Everyone has taken that quote and misused it. They both said they would not make a huge signing. This is referrring to dollars of contracts. Green stated he wouldn't waste the majority of his cap space on one player (his definition of a "huge" signing). If the price is right, he would be sought after. They just won't break the bank for one player.
So.....Is it a Pi thing or a Pie thing?:)
 

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